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Title: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: PyroMenace on Friday, January 29, 2010, 05:15:28 AM
Watch this (http://www.giantbomb.com/guns-n-death-in-red-dead-redemption/17-1946/) and I dare you to tell me that doesn't look totally fucking awesome.

All who do will be banned.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: W7RE on Friday, January 29, 2010, 06:12:22 AM
It doesn't look totally fucking awesome.


The technology seems sort of cool, but I'm put off by the fact that it's an open world game, which are always sort of fucked up and unpolished. They also typically feature boring ass missions with cut and paste side missions. Oh, and even if none of that had deterred me, it's a western. I actually probably would have stayed out of the discussion, but you dared me to disagree. :P
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Quemaqua on Friday, January 29, 2010, 07:06:49 AM
Leave it to W7.

Yeah, I think it looks totally awesome.  I didn't play Revolver, but this one looks fantastic.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Cobra951 on Friday, January 29, 2010, 08:51:47 AM
That looks totally fucking awesome.  And I know now who not to bore with my Fallout 3 praise.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: W7RE on Friday, January 29, 2010, 08:58:32 AM
That looks totally fucking awesome.  And I know now who not to bore with my Fallout 3 praise.

Me? I love Fallout 3. I just need to actually play, you know, something past Megaton in the main story. When I say open world, I mean GTA and it's various clones. They always seem to sacrifice interesting story and functional controls for the wow factor of a huge world. Assassin's Creed is the only game like that I've actually liked.

And I just really don't like westerns.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: TheOtherBelmont on Friday, January 29, 2010, 12:37:04 PM
Yeah, I want this so bad.  I loved Red Dead Revolver and I love westerns.  I really hope this doesn't suck.  There hasn't been enough good western games, but its a niche audience I guess.  Gun was so-so, but way too fucking short.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: wizall on Friday, January 29, 2010, 12:46:38 PM
I think this looks amazing. Boner. I hope it pans out.

I don't recall having played a western-themed game, which is stupid. What did you think of the Call of Juarez games?
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: iPPi on Friday, January 29, 2010, 01:04:48 PM
Looks interesting.  Let's hope they back the tech with a good story and set pieces.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: TheOtherBelmont on Friday, January 29, 2010, 01:22:33 PM
What did you think of the Call of Juarez games?

I never got around to playing those since they are on 360 and I don't really do too much PC gaming but I really should give the first one a try sometime.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: ScaryTooth on Friday, January 29, 2010, 02:41:10 PM
I had just heard of this a couple months ago. I can't wait to give it a whirl. Looks awesome.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: ScaryTooth on Thursday, March 18, 2010, 12:55:52 PM
this game is looking more and more awesome by the day (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afhcpsLIh_4)

Those horses look great. I'm totally fuckin sold on it. I can't wait to lasso some dudes and drag them through town, Marty Mcfly style.

Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: ScaryTooth on Friday, May 07, 2010, 04:47:49 PM
I can't believe no one else is as excited as I am about this game.

Mexican shootouts! Showdowns! Lassoing people and dragging them through the street. Shooting off ten-gallon hats!

Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: idolminds on Friday, May 07, 2010, 05:14:06 PM
Ive been on a practical media blackout since one of the early trailers. I really want this game.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: PyroMenace on Friday, May 07, 2010, 05:39:17 PM
I can't believe no one else is as excited as I am about this game.

Mexican shootouts! Showdowns! Lassoing people and dragging them through the street. Shooting off ten-gallon hats!



No man, I'm pretty much right there with you, I've been hitting up trailers every now and again. This is probably my most anticipated game this year next to ME2.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Pugnate on Friday, May 07, 2010, 11:03:56 PM
This is the first time I've been in this thread.

Wow...

I've been wanting to see a game like this for a while. I grew up watching Westerns. :P I actually wondered a few times why a game like this wasn't made...

I was excited when Gun came out... but it sucked.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: gpw11 on Saturday, May 08, 2010, 06:02:15 PM
I will probably be buying my PS3 when this comes out.  Room mate bought an HD TV, so it makes the PS3 cost alone far more justifiable. Thing is, most of my friends have 360s and online would be a lot more fun....but it's hard to convince myself it'd be a better fun investment with all the problems and lack of a blu ray player.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: MysterD on Saturday, May 08, 2010, 06:48:45 PM
Oh, man....those videos you guys posted - AWESOME.

This is exactly what GTA needed - GTA: Wild Wild West. :P Sure, GTA always been a great series and all - but damn, even with its small tweaks and improvements over the years - the gameplay, weapons, vehicles, and settings ain't changed much, have they? GTA3 and 4 are Modern NY-like city; Vice City was 80's Miami-like city (my fav. of the GTA's); San Andreas was 90's California. A GTA-like game in the West sounds like a great idea to me - a departure from the late 1900's to early 2000's.

I mean, sure - Call of Juarez (original) was pretty good and Gun was good (but could've been better than what it was), but man...this RDR sandbox Western game looks freaking awesome. Where the hell have games taking place in the West been all these years?  :o

You know what I'm thinking already, probably - yeah, I'd love to see this on the PC, sometime down the line - as long as Rockstar would do a good job porting it here, of course. They already had one RAGE Engine game here (GTA4 PC - and it has improved its performance a little bit w/ its last patch), so I hope they would do better next time around w/ the same engine (RDR)...

You know something? RDR might revitalize The Western genre. Actually, was it even a big genre in gaming in the first place? I don't think it was. Now...will someone make a RPG set in the Wild Wild West please? :P

EDIT:
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I don't recall having played a western-themed game, which is stupid. What did you think of the Call of Juarez games?
I played the first COJ for the PC - and it's one hell of a (linear) first-person shooter.
I have COJ: Bound in Blood - but ain't installed it yet.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Xessive on Saturday, May 08, 2010, 06:55:51 PM
I've played both Call of Juarez games and I really liked them. Bound in Blood definitely feels more polished and focused on the gameplay.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: MysterD on Saturday, May 08, 2010, 06:57:20 PM
I've played both Call of Juarez games and I really liked them. Bound in Blood definitely feels more polished and focused on the gameplay.
Shit, maybe I should install Bound in Blood soon...

RDR looks like the game everybody was probably hoping from with Gun.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Pugnate on Sunday, May 09, 2010, 12:17:18 AM
I will probably be buying my PS3 when this comes out.  Room mate bought an HD TV, so it makes the PS3 cost alone far more justifiable. Thing is, most of my friends have 360s and online would be a lot more fun....but it's hard to convince myself it'd be a better fun investment with all the problems and lack of a blu ray player.

I think about ten of us own PS3s on OW.

Honestly, I just don't like multiplayer gaming on a console... It isn't just the crowd... it is just... it feels weird.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: MysterD on Sunday, May 09, 2010, 04:23:42 AM

Honestly, I just don't like multiplayer gaming on a console... It isn't just the crowd... it is just... it feels weird.
I think us PC gamers prefer ded-servers and KB/mouse for these type of shooting games...

EDIT:
Red Dead Redemption - The Revolution Trailer. (http://www.rockstargames.com/reddeadredemption/videos/4611#/video:4611)
RDR - Free Roam MP Mode Trailer. (http://www.rockstargames.com/reddeadredemption/news/article/4551/watch_%22multiplayer_free_roam%22_-_the_new_red_dead_redemption_gameplay_series_video)

EDIT 2:
RDR - The Outlaws To The End DLC coming in June as FREE DLC for X360 and PS3.
This is a 6-mission Co-Op Mission Pack DLC meant for 2-4 players.
Click link for more details. (http://www.rockstargames.com/reddeadredemption/news/article/5211/first_red_dead_redemption_dlc_details_-_the_outlaws_to_the_end_co-op_mission_pack_coming_in_june_as_free_download)

Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Pugnate on Sunday, May 09, 2010, 07:20:11 AM
Not just that... I guess it is the interface as well... though XBL is pretty good in that regard.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: MysterD on Sunday, May 09, 2010, 07:25:17 AM
Not just that... I guess it is the interface as well... though XBL is pretty good in that regard.

Is XBL much more robust than PSN on the interface aspect?
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Pugnate on Sunday, May 09, 2010, 07:34:11 AM
edit: whoops
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: MysterD on Sunday, May 09, 2010, 08:14:47 AM
So I just finished it. I was on the last mission as I typed that previous message. The game was without doubt, very good, but definitely fell short of excellence.

There are moments early that offer lots of stealth options, and the first half of the game finds a great balance between stealth and action. Unfortunately, the last half felt far more third-person action. Don't get me wrong, it was still good fun, but I felt it was easier to raise hell than sneak from the shadows.

Overall the storytelling was good, and the soundtrack was just top notch.

Good solid game, but I'd still rank it below the first splinter cell, and Chaos Theory.

Pug, wrong thread, bro.
This is the RDR thread, not SC:Con thread. :P
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: gpw11 on Sunday, May 09, 2010, 02:09:49 PM
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This is exactly what GTA needed - GTA: Wild Wild West. Tongue Sure, GTA always been a great series and all - but damn, even with its small tweaks and improvements over the years - the gameplay, weapons, vehicles, and settings ain't changed much, have they? GTA3 and 4 are Modern NY-like city; Vice City was 80's Miami-like city (my fav. of the GTA's); San Andreas was 90's California. A GTA-like game in the West sounds like a great idea to me - a departure from the late 1900's to early 2000's.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that a GTA game without cars is a retarded idea.  That's essentially the basis of the game.  If you want to make an open world game in the wild west era, just start a new series.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: MysterD on Sunday, May 09, 2010, 08:20:52 PM
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that a GTA game without cars is a retarded idea.  That's essentially the basis of the game.  If you want to make an open world game in the wild west era, just start a new series.
I was basically saying Red Dead Redemption looks like it could've been called GTA: Wild Wild West - since it's on the same engine (RAGE Engine); has an open-world; and we have "Vehicles" (horses, not cars); and we got side mini-games (poker, instead of pool and darts).

Of course, there's no "Auto", so can't call it GTA: Wild Wild West. :P
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: PyroMenace on Monday, May 10, 2010, 02:02:10 AM
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that a GTA game without cars is a retarded idea.  That's essentially the basis of the game.  If you want to make an open world game in the wild west era, just start a new series.

Yea, I mean D gets what you're saying, he just likes calling every sandbox open world game "GTA-like". Just pat him on the head.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Pugnate on Monday, May 10, 2010, 02:54:22 AM
Yea, I mean D gets what you're saying, he just likes calling every sandbox open world game "GTA-like". Just pat him on the head.

Thanks for clearing that up, because I was getting the wrong idea about the game from what I was getting from the glances at D's posts.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: MysterD on Monday, May 10, 2010, 01:35:28 PM
Yea, I mean D gets what you're saying, he just likes calling every sandbox open world game "GTA-like". Just pat him on the head.

Would y'all rather me compare it to Oblivion of Fallout 3 w/ their open-world sandbox? :P

I will - will Red Dead Redemption have the decision making aspect commonly found for finishing quests like in those two games?
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: PyroMenace on Monday, May 10, 2010, 03:24:43 PM
My mistake, you can keep going down the path you are going. Just know that nobody knows what the fuck you're talking about.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: MysterD on Wednesday, May 12, 2010, 02:42:11 PM
Here's The Rockstar Social Club support that RDR for the consoles will have going on. (http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/63748)
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: ScaryTooth on Thursday, May 13, 2010, 07:59:34 PM
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/launch-trailer-red-dead/100155 (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/launch-trailer-red-dead/100155)

Launch Trailer just went up. I'm taking Tuesday off.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: ScaryTooth on Monday, May 17, 2010, 07:29:58 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/17/arts/television/17dead.html?pagewanted=all (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/17/arts/television/17dead.html?pagewanted=all)

New york Times review of the game. It's glowing.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Cobra951 on Monday, May 17, 2010, 07:51:02 AM
Watch this space. (http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/reddeadredemption)  Looks very promising.

I haven't been following this game at all.  I've looked into the thread now and then, but I didn't really connect with it.  I'm paying attention now.

Edit:  Hah!  Now it's fully populated.  Lots of high scores.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: ScaryTooth on Monday, May 17, 2010, 08:54:15 AM
http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/109/1090145p1.html (http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/109/1090145p1.html)

9.8 from IGN UK.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/109/1090125p1.html (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/109/1090125p1.html)

A 9.7 for the IGN US review.

I'm calling off tomorrow to study, but also because I'm going to the midnight release of this game...man I feel like a dork.

This is one of those games I clean up my gaming and entertainment area for...
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Ghandi on Monday, May 17, 2010, 09:22:56 AM
Wow, I haven't been following this game at all. Now I really want it after watching the review.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: MysterD on Monday, May 17, 2010, 02:58:06 PM
RDR - X360 Reviews.

Scores - Out of 10
Boomtown.net - TEN. (http://xbox.boomtown.net/en_uk/articles/art.view.php?id=19659)
GameInformer - 9.75. (http://gameinformer.com/games/red_dead_redemption/b/xbox360/archive/2010/05/17/review.aspx)
CVG - 9.5. (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=246846)
TotalVideoGames.com - 9. (http://www.totalvideogames.com/Red-Dead-Redemption/review-15242.html)
Edge Online - 9. (http://www.edge-online.com/features/review-red-dead-redemption)
Eurogamer - 8. (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/red-dead-redemption-review)

Scores - Out of 5
Gamepro - 5 stars. (http://www.gamepro.com/article/reviews/215190/red-dead-redemption/)
G4TV - 5 stars. (http://g4tv.com/games/xbox-360/57148/Red-Dead-Redemption/review/)

Grading System - (from F to A)
1Up = A grade. (http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3179335&p=4)
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: ScaryTooth on Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 01:26:23 PM
This game is off the fucking chain!

Shooting a guy on his horse, and his foot gets caught in the stirrups is pure awesome. Or blasting some guy in the legs and he falls to the ground still trying to shoot at you. Lassoing dudes, and dragging them through town looks sweet. Finding treasure maps and running around the country side trying to figure out where the treasure is buried, is freaking great. The story is interesting and pulls you right in, the voice acting is top notch.

The only thing about the game that is a LITTLE annoying is that my guy keeps disappearing in the free roam mode, think it may be a connection issue though. My internet is kind of crappy right now.

Go buy this game if you like awesome.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: PyroMenace on Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 04:34:28 PM
You really need to quit that... like right now, I fucking want it so bad.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: TheOtherBelmont on Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 04:54:17 PM
I want this, but will have to wait till next paycheck....fuck.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Xessive on Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 05:23:41 PM
I really hope it finds its way to PC. If not I'll probably just get it on PS3 when I get back to Abu Dhabi.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: MysterD on Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 05:26:07 PM
I really hope it finds its way to PC.
I do, too.

Quote
If not I'll probably just get it on PS3 when I get back to Abu Dhabi.
Has there any like comparisons on what's better - PS3 or X360 version?
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Xessive on Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 06:13:09 PM
Has there any like comparisons on what's better - PS3 or X360 version?
Not sure, but I doubt they're very different. Maybe slight anti-aliasing and texture quality, but likely unnoticeable.

Check around YouTube, you might find some comparison vids. The most recent one I watched was a SC Conviction PC vs 360 side-by-side comparison. The C version looks so crisp compared to the X360 version; textures, edges, and even some shader effects were more impressive on PC.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: MysterD on Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 07:51:25 PM
9.5 from Gamespot.
Written review. (http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/reddeadredemption/review.html?tag=stitialclk%3Bgamespace)
HD Video Review. (http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/reddeadredemption/video/6263031/red-dead-redemption-video-review?hd=1)
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Cobra951 on Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 08:52:04 PM
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This is non-scientific, but after playing an hour of both games, and switching back and forth between the two systems on our display, it's clear that the 360 version has quite the graphical advantage. It's sharper, with much less aliasing. The faces of the characters were clearer in the opening section. Gameplay sections likewise looked better, with smoother graphics across the board. The PlayStation 3 version looked impressive, but there was a noticeable jump in quality while playing on the 360.
Ars Technica (http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2010/05/read-dead-redemption-360-vs-ps3-our-thoughts.ars)

Rockstar's roots are on the PC, after all.

Edit:  There's a link to a 1UP blurb (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3179359) in the comments.  If this is accurate, the 360 version runs at 720p with 2X AA.  The PS3 version runs at 640p.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: PyroMenace on Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 09:39:46 PM
I can confirm having played it for about 45 minutes that it is indeed, fucking awesome.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Pugnate on Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 09:47:39 PM
Amazing that I hadn't heard of this game till a month ago.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: idolminds on Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 09:57:44 PM
Disappointing that the PS3 version is "behind" but...eh. I'll probably get it for PS3 and then maybe later if there is a PC version.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Cobra951 on Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 11:27:20 PM
I've been downloading & watching some full-res trailers on the 360.  They have me drooling.  The funny thing is that I don't much care for the Western setting, but I really want to play this.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: iPPi on Wednesday, May 19, 2010, 05:59:27 PM
Hmmm, I didn't think that I would be that good but with these rave reviews I just might have to pick it up in the near future.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: MysterD on Thursday, May 20, 2010, 03:59:02 PM
Rockstar's working on a fix for the Invisible Objects bugs that can occur in RDR. (http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/63891)
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: wizall on Thursday, May 20, 2010, 08:05:49 PM
I have a $50 card for Fry's, but I waited a day too long to head down there. FUCK.

Btw, there's a solid quicklook at Giantbomb. (http://www.giantbomb.com/quick-look-red-dead-redemption/17-2507/)
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Pugnate on Thursday, May 20, 2010, 11:45:57 PM
Got this for the 360 the other day.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: beo on Friday, May 21, 2010, 07:07:57 PM
ok, this game is good. got home at 6, put it in, looked at my watch, 3am. fuck. i've spent probably in excess of an hour just on the gambling - the poker in this is better than some stand alone poker games.

if i were to compare it to anything, it would certainly be gta. if you imagine gta in a western setting, you're about 90% of the way there.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Pugnate on Saturday, May 22, 2010, 01:20:01 AM
I don't know how to explain it, but it is, and it isn't. It is in the sense that technically, it is a GTA in the wildwest, but at the same time, I feel that description sells it short.

There is a level of quality and polish here that sets it apart from previous GTA style Rockstar games. There is also a real sense of identity here. You can tell they really put their soul into creating something very unique.

When I first started the game last night, the first thing I was really impressed by, were the visuals, which are great. I also love the edgy art style, which is more Tombstone than Brisco County Jr. For example, the main character has a face that only a mother could love. Even the main female lead looks a bit weathered.

I only played a few hours or so, so I am not sure if this will start to feel like a typical rockstar game as it progresses. I remember GTAIV had a grand first few hours before it went back to the standard.

I've been pretty impressed with the shooting so far though.

I had been wondering recently what it was about Rockstar games that made them feel dated so very quickly after release, more so than other games. My conclusion was that Rockstar games have always been highly impressive in certain areas (like alive open worlds), and kinda frustrating and shitty in others (like the actual gun play, the lack of save points), even upon release.

So far the good news is that RDR seems to have very good shooting mechanics, that are really enjoyable. The horse riding is just awesome as well.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Cobra951 on Saturday, May 22, 2010, 09:09:49 AM
I read that you can save just about anywhere, which is a huge improvement over GTA IV.  This one is at the top of my short list.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Quemaqua on Saturday, May 22, 2010, 12:11:46 PM
I picked it up and I'm hoping it breaks my long gaming dry spell.  I really want to love this game.  I'll be starting in after I shower and clean myself up.  I spent last night at Paul's drinking... oh, probably a dozen or so beers.  I passed out on the couch at 10:30.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: MysterD on Saturday, May 22, 2010, 02:32:27 PM
I read that you can save just about anywhere, which is a huge improvement over GTA IV.
That's awesome.

Can you save in a mission?
Are there checkpoints saves within missions w/ multiple parts?
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: ScaryTooth on Saturday, May 22, 2010, 04:56:19 PM
You can't save in missions or when you are inside a gang hideout. Other than that, you just pitch a camp site and save. Or run into the nearest town and save.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: MysterD on Sunday, May 23, 2010, 06:31:56 AM
You can't save in missions or when you are inside a gang hideout.

GTA4: Episodes from Liberty City has autosaves w/in missions w/ multiple parts (that they provide to you) - do they offer those up?

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Other than that, you just pitch a camp site and save. Or run into the nearest town and save.
Sweet. Sure beats always driving to a "safe house."
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: ScaryTooth on Sunday, May 23, 2010, 09:14:43 AM
Well, you have a hideout in each town. So it's kind of similar. Or, like I said, you can pitch a tent....haha....

And it does autosave at certain checkpoints within missions.

Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: MysterD on Sunday, May 23, 2010, 10:44:53 AM
Awesome, Scary.
Sounds like Rockstar's learned from a lot of people's past criticisms. :)
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Pugnate on Sunday, May 23, 2010, 10:51:22 AM
This game is just so much fun. And yes, it is almost like they made GTA5, except they made it in the wild west.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Quemaqua on Sunday, May 23, 2010, 11:35:03 AM
I'm trying really hard to enjoy this game.  Life circumstances are making it very hard, but it really does seem phenomenal.  I'm having fun when I can actually concentrate on playing it and not finding a place to save and quit.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Pugnate on Sunday, May 23, 2010, 11:51:50 AM
I know how that feeling goes. Luckily, problems in my personal life eventually normally don't last more than a few days... until then the only thing I can concentrate on is bejeweled.

But yea the progress recording aspect has really gone through an overhaul from previous Rockstar games. I hope they bring this into GTA5.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: MysterD on Sunday, May 23, 2010, 11:54:44 AM
This game is just so much fun. And yes, it is almost like they made GTA5, except they made it in the wild west.

I'm glad somebody decided to do a Western. Ain't enuff of those Westerns -- especially good ones -- on the market, as is.

About GTA5 - yeah, I'd like to see those new gameplay saving and auto-saving features in a future GTA. I'd rather see Vice City 2 (on The RAGE Engine) first before GTA5, though. :P

Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Cobra951 on Wednesday, May 26, 2010, 07:53:12 AM
A 30-minute RDR machinima film airs on Fox this Saturday night at midnight.  It was created and directed by John Hillcoat, the pro director responsible for The Road and other movies.  Man, talk about ad budgets.

Story from Rockstar (http://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/5891/an_original_short_film_made_from_red_dead_redemption_airing_on_fox_this_saturday_night.article)
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: beo on Thursday, May 27, 2010, 11:23:24 AM
finished it up earlier today. still got some wilderness challenges to complete, but apart from that - done.

i really enjoyed it, but it certainly didn't keep up the pace all the way through. from the middle of the game out, i felt like there was a lot fewer new things to experience. also, i got 83.8% completion with a time of 26 hours, which seems a little short compared to previous rockstar games.

regarding the ending:
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Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: PyroMenace on Saturday, May 29, 2010, 06:40:20 PM
Been playing it pretty obsessively, I'm having such an awesome time. You can almost do anything you'd want to do in a western setting... except sleep with whores, boo. There's survival challenges and you can capture wanted criminals, I also love the random encounters you'll run into in the wild or even in towns. Shoplifters will run out of a store with the clerk chasing after him or a guy will start smacking up a whore and will pull out of knife, even saw a pack of cowboys riding through a town shooting towards the sky dragging a lassoed dude behind them. It's an extremely impressive and alive world. Anyway I'm gonna get back to it, can't stop playing.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: PyroMenace on Wednesday, June 02, 2010, 04:01:11 PM
finished it up earlier today. still got some wilderness challenges to complete, but apart from that - done.

i really enjoyed it, but it certainly didn't keep up the pace all the way through. from the middle of the game out, i felt like there was a lot fewer new things to experience. also, i got 83.8% completion with a time of 26 hours, which seems a little short compared to previous rockstar games.

regarding the ending:
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I just finished it, though a little word of advice to anyone who gets there, its not over when you think it is.

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Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: ScaryTooth on Tuesday, June 08, 2010, 08:10:45 AM
http://kotaku.com/5556788/my-highlight-of-red-dead-redemption-isthis-song (http://kotaku.com/5556788/my-highlight-of-red-dead-redemption-isthis-song)

A song from the games soundtrack. It's really really good.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Cobra951 on Tuesday, June 08, 2010, 12:37:03 PM
Nice.  Stop making me want this game.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: MysterD on Friday, June 11, 2010, 02:03:25 PM
I hope Rockstar changes their mind...
Currently, no RDR PC plans... (http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/64228)
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Dragonlor on Thursday, June 17, 2010, 05:52:41 AM
I just finished the game about a week ago.  The story really pulls you in and you become emotionally attached to John.  A side from a couple of glitches the game is amazing, and the landscape is just beautiful.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: TheOtherBelmont on Saturday, July 03, 2010, 09:39:54 PM
I finally got around to playing this a couple of weeks ago since I finished some other games I was playing and am about 60% complete so far and loving the hell out of it.  Hogtying people up and putting them on the railroad tracks to meet their demise is good times.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: MysterD on Monday, July 05, 2010, 03:47:01 PM
Holy crap at these numbers... (http://www.gamesetwatch.com/2010/07/red_dead_redemption_accrued_14.php?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+gamesetwatch+%28GameSetWatch%29)

 :o
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: idolminds on Monday, July 05, 2010, 03:50:14 PM
Anyone else find it kind of creepy that all this information is reported back to developers?
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: MysterD on Monday, July 05, 2010, 03:58:12 PM
Anyone else find it kind of creepy that all this information is reported back to developers?

About all the hats shot off - I wonder how much of it was purposely done and not...
We'll likely never know that...
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Cobra951 on Monday, July 05, 2010, 09:37:16 PM
Anyone else find it kind of creepy that all this information is reported back to developers?

Yes.  Makes me want to play the game under an offline profile, if I ever get it.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: PyroMenace on Monday, July 05, 2010, 10:45:12 PM
That doesn't bother me, this sort of thing is done far more than you realize.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Pugnate on Tuesday, July 06, 2010, 02:00:08 PM
Doesn't bother me either. As long as my name, address etc aren't public information, I don't care. I think people overreact when it comes to this stuff. I guess the only problem is when you wonder when it stops, and who decides.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: MysterD on Thursday, July 08, 2010, 03:00:51 PM
FOUR new upcoming DLC's for Red Dead Redemption revealed.
Details of the 4 in this link (from G4TV). (http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/706097/Four-New-Red-Dead-Redemption-DLC-Packs-Announced-.html)
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: TheOtherBelmont on Monday, July 12, 2010, 01:48:39 AM
Well, I finally finished this game and got 100% completion.  What an amazing game, I look forward to Rockstar making more games in this series.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: MysterD on Wednesday, July 14, 2010, 07:16:40 PM
If this rumor is true...
Holy crap! (http://kotaku.com/5587413/rumor-rockstar-lays-off-40-from-red-dead-redemption-team?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+kotaku%2Ffull+%28Kotaku%29)
 :o
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Cobra951 on Wednesday, July 14, 2010, 08:44:55 PM
Yes, it is.  (See the link above, which has been updated.)  The game is released.  The devs are now redundant.  I love that British euphemism.  It's so apt.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: MysterD on Thursday, October 28, 2010, 09:45:01 AM
Red Dead Redemption: Undead Nightmare DLC
GameSpot -> X360 - 8.0 (out of 10).
HD Video Review. (http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/reddeadredemptionundeadnightmarepack/video/6283149/red-dead-redemption--undead-nightmare-video-review?hd=1)
Written Review. (http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/reddeadredemptionundeadnightmarepack/review.html?tag=topslot;thumb;1)

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Depending on how much of the optional content you choose to complete and how much you use the fast-travel option, Undead Nightmare's story might take you anywhere from five to a dozen or more hours to complete.

The add-on ends every bit as well as Red Dead Redemption did, and if you haven't beaten the original game yet, you'd do well to do so before playing this add-on. That way, you can fully appreciate not only the superb ending but also the appearance of numerous returning characters whose predicaments are made even more amusing by your knowledge of them from previous encounters.

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In addition to its sizable single-player offering, Undead Nightmare introduces a new multiplayer mode titled Undead Overrun. Up to four of you team up and then, after deciding on which of the four weapon loadouts you each want to play with, you're dropped into a spooky environment and must survive for as long as possible against increasingly tough waves of undead.

In a neat twist on the formula, the in-game clock counts down rather than up and can be replenished only by opening coffins that appear on the map between waves. This not only forces you to move around rather than fortify yourself inside a structure, but also encourages you to take risks so that you can clear the waves as quickly as possible. Cooperation is a must, and if you stray too far from your teammates, they're less likely to come and revive you successfully should you find yourself incapacitated.

Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: MysterD on Tuesday, September 13, 2011, 03:46:15 PM
Destructoid -> Red Dead Redemption: Game of The Year Edition confirmed. (http://www.destructoid.com/rockstar-confirms-red-dead-redemption-goty-edition-211286.phtml)

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It will include the full game plus all free and premium downloadable content, including Undead Nightmare.
The exclusive pre-order bonuses will also available as will Solomon's Folly,
previously only accessible on PlayStation 3.

In addition to the original game and Undead Nightmare, this package will contain:

The Legends and Killers Multiplayer Pack: Adds nine new maps, eight characters from Red Dead Revolver, and new weapons including the tomahawk.

The Liars and Cheats Multiplayer Pack: Expands the Free Roam multiplayer with multiplayer poker, liar's dice, horse racing with combat as well as new gang hideouts and hunting grounds and a new competitive mode -- Stronghold.

The Outlaws to the End Co-op Mission Pack: Adds six new co-op missions for 2-4 players.

The Myths and Mavericks Bonus Pack: Features new multiplayer characters and locations.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: K-man on Tuesday, October 11, 2011, 05:08:54 PM
Ok boys, the GOTY edition came out today. The game, Undead Nightmare, the DLC, and EVERY preorder bonus.  The whole shebang. 

It took some doing, but I managed to track down a copy.  Seems retail is a little skittish because they have so many copies of RDR/UN they still haven't sold.

I've been waiting and waiting for this to be a thing.  I've managed to hold off knowing that it would eventually get a similar GTAIV Complete treatment.  I haven't been this stoked about a game release in a while.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Cobra951 on Tuesday, October 11, 2011, 09:56:42 PM
I've been holding off on RDR forever.  Now it looks like it's going to pay off.  Thanks for the news.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: K-man on Wednesday, October 12, 2011, 06:24:45 AM
I was able to put an hour or two in last night.  Made it through the intro and a few missions.  I got distracted a little bit playing horseshoes and poker, both of which I enjoy much more than GTA IV's distractions.

It's only natural the game be compared to GTA IV.  There is a lot more dialogue between John and other characters than there was in GTA IV, and it feels much more organic.  Long conversations aren't limited to long horse(car) rides like they were in GTA. 

Apparently there is an option to turn on the "snap to" shooting mode of GTA IV.  I haven't felt the need to do that just yet though.  The few missions I've played haven't been too difficult in terms of aiming.

Cobra, if you're interested in just running out and grabbing it at a brick and mortar, I'd call first.  It wasn't even in Wal-Mart's release schedule, K-mart didn't buy in because they had so many copies of the vanilla game left, and there wasn't a copy at a Gamestop within 100 miles of my location.  I lucked out and found it at the ONE Best Buy in my area that had it in stock.  Even Target didn't have a copy.  I can only assume this is because, like K-mart, they had too many of the original in stock to warrant purchasing a bunch of these.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: PyroMenace on Wednesday, October 12, 2011, 12:07:55 PM
Man I wish I could go back and play through it for the first time again, fucking fantastic experience.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: K-man on Thursday, October 13, 2011, 06:42:24 AM
I didn't get to play much last night.  I finished up the Ranch missions (for now, I'm assuming).  I broke a somewhat rare horse, but then on the way back to the ranch I triggered a random in-world quest.  When I finished the horse I originally had came back.  That was sort of a bummer.

I continually stop and marvel at how pretty the game is, and how well it seems to grasp the atmosphere of that era.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Cobra951 on Thursday, October 13, 2011, 10:47:26 AM
I went to Best Buy to grab Forza 4.  I saw the regular edition of RDR, but no GotY.  A clerk asked me if I needed any help, and I asked him about it.  He said he could check when it was going to be released.  I told him it was released already.  He went and checked.  Came back a minute later and said they had just received it, and it was still in a box.  Would I be interested?  Yes!  So now I have RDR GotY and Forza 4.  Damn.  Haven't splurged like this since last year.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: K-man on Thursday, October 13, 2011, 12:44:22 PM
You go Cobra!
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: K-man on Friday, October 14, 2011, 06:26:21 AM
I had to divide my time yesterday between Shadow Complex (currently on sale for 600 points!) and RDR. 

I swear I could seriously just spend hours playing the mini games in this game.  Whereas in GTA IV I found most of the minigames to be boring, I actually enjoy these.  Probably something similar to how Idol feels about the stuff in Yakuza.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Cobra951 on Saturday, October 15, 2011, 09:08:04 PM
I'm impressed so far.  I learned the basic moves.  I thought riding a horse was ridiculously hard until I discovered the "camera-relative" setting.  Now it behaves a lot more intuitively.  I'm surprised they didn't make it the default.  I learned about skinning animals, watched a movie, and got in my first gunfight.  They've done an awesome job here with the mechanics and visuals.  The atmosphere is spot on, thanks in no small part to the music.  I still feel very much like a tenderfoot, though.  It will take a while to ease into the role.  Great stuff.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: K-man on Sunday, October 16, 2011, 02:01:39 PM
So guess what's on sale at Best Buy for 40 dollars...
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: K-man on Wednesday, October 19, 2011, 06:14:30 AM
I'm starting to feel like I'm blowing through the game.  I'll clip off 3-4 missions at a time.  This worked in GTA IV because there were always 3-4 different people to get missions from.  They have obviously toned it down a bit in RDR.  I need to slow it down and enjoy some of the optional stuff.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Cobra951 on Wednesday, October 19, 2011, 08:09:12 AM
I noticed in the stats that I have already completed 7.1% of the game, even though I've done very little other than run around discovering and enjoying the world.  I think you're right; I could blow through this game if I stuck to the mission path.  I'd rather not.  It's all so beautifully done.

I found a shotgun last night, and I didn't even know it until the chest in my safe house gave me ammo for it.  It's my first extra weapon since the obligatory 2 from the early story.  Haven't tried it yet.  I guess I got it as loot from a bad guy I was helping someone hunt down to get his herd back.  The mechanics of running and gunning are so much fun.  I wish there was a health meter, though.  The business of depending on color-palette changes kinda sucks.  It's hard to tell if you're just about dead or you can take a bit more lead.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: K-man on Wednesday, October 19, 2011, 08:20:07 AM
One thing I discovered last night that I found pretty hilarious:  You can't swim.  At all.  I stepped foot off a dock into pretty shallow water and died instantly.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Cobra951 on Wednesday, October 19, 2011, 08:23:02 AM
That's disappointing.  Thanks for the heads up.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: K-man on Wednesday, October 19, 2011, 08:45:46 AM
Yeah, I thought it was a little lazy on Rockstar's part.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Cobra951 on Friday, October 21, 2011, 04:09:23 PM
This is quite a mixed bag.  The good doesn't need a lot more coverage.  Audiovisuals and mechanics are generally outstanding.  The world is huge and compelling.  The story and voice acting are good as well.  What a shame, then, that all this great work is hamstrung by a 1990s player-punishing system of progress-robbing saves, deaths and continues.

You are punished for saving.  You have to pay a 6-hour price to save your game.  You lose 6 hours out of your game day whenever you save.  This was never a good idea in GTA games, and seems even worse in a new game.  There are autosaves, but these are limited to completing missions and a few other milestones.  If you are just exploring, hunting, gathering collectibles, and so forth, you are responsible to save your own progress.

You are punished for not saving.  When you see "DEAD" on your screen, think "GAME OVER" in a 1990 arcade game.  Everything you've done, everything you've acquired, everywhere you have discovered since your last save is gone.  The most recent save file is loaded, just as if you were booting up the game from scratch.  If dying were a rare event, then perhaps I could live with this deficiency.  But the fact is that there are a lot of gotchas in this world for a tenderfoot.  It's not a hard game, but when things go wrong, they go wrong in a hurry, and end up with you DEAD.  I've lost easily 3 hours of progress because of this, plus a random game freeze while I was in a room about to save.  I haven't experienced this kind of seething rage at a game in so long that I've forgotten which one that was.

So I decided to cheat.  There is an official invincibility cheat which I'm now using.  It disables achievements and autosaves.  Fine.  What I love about games like this are exploration and discovery.  I don't particularly relish difficult deadly combat.  Invincibility would prevent losing progress by dying, without having to become a save whore, right?  But get this: every time you get a mission cutscene or you save the game, the cheat is silently turned off.  It took me a while to understand why I was still taking damage and occasionally dying after activating and turning on the cheat.  Once I saw the dumb reality of it, I couldn't help but laugh.  I ended up doing most of the missions all the way into Mexico with the cheat off after all, including the hardest.  I guess it's true:  Cheaters never prosper.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: K-man on Friday, October 21, 2011, 05:24:48 PM
i can definitely see both sides of that particular issue, Cobra.  The save system has irritated me to no end with all of Rockstar's games.  It's why I never finished GTA 3, and never really gave Vice City or San Andreas the time of day.  I think RDR contains its best iteration.

I don't think the 6 hour price is that big of a deal.  I've completed just as many missions so far at night as I have during the day.  I make it a point to make a campsite or do something to automatically initiate a save (taming a new horse, for instance).  You just have to get used to it.  It sucks, and it's pretty ridiculous compared to other games today, but I have to remind myself that I persevered through and conquered much worse as a 10 year old kid as far as saves go.  Granted I had much more free time at that point.  On the normal difficulty I have only had one mission give me any significant trouble.  That may change.

But hey, you paid your money for the game.  Play it how you want to.  I certainly do not begrudge anyone for just wanting to go through the game to see how the story plays out.  It's pretty excellent so far.

Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Cobra951 on Saturday, October 22, 2011, 04:09:06 AM
i can definitely see both sides of that particular issue, Cobra.  The save system has irritated me to no end with all of Rockstar's games.  It's why I never finished GTA 3, and never really gave Vice City or San Andreas the time of day.  I think RDR contains its best iteration.

I don't think the 6 hour price is that big of a deal.  I've completed just as many missions so far at night as I have during the day.  I make it a point to make a campsite or do something to automatically initiate a save (taming a new horse, for instance).  You just have to get used to it.  It sucks, and it's pretty ridiculous compared to other games today, but I have to remind myself that I persevered through and conquered much worse as a 10 year old kid as far as saves go.  Granted I had much more free time at that point.  On the normal difficulty I have only had one mission give me any significant trouble.  That may change.

But hey, you paid your money for the game.  Play it how you want to.  I certainly do not begrudge anyone for just wanting to go through the game to see how the story plays out.  It's pretty excellent so far.

Yes, excellent is the right word.  I'm surprised at how good it is.  But my intention is not to play the game just to see the story unfold.  I want to engage in all the game's challenges and discovery as well.  I want to live in that world, see and do as much as I can find.  I've decided to sacrifice the danger of combat to prevent the archaic save and (lack of) continue system from pissing me off.  I would love to find a way around this issue other than invincibility.  It's the only cheat I'll use.  There are several others like infinite ammo, horse stamina, and dead eye.  No thanks.  I also won't cheat to unlock weapons or outfits.  I'll find all those myself.

As I said, with so much excellence, Rockstar's inability to move into this century with the save system is a crying shame.  It mars and diminishes a grand experience.

Edit:  And to elaborate a bit more, I ended up playing all the way into Mexico without realizing that the cheat which cost me achievements and autosave was turned off most of the time anyway.  Bahaha!  I said as much before, but I'm not sure if that was clear.  I also played all the way into Fort Mercer without knowing that the medicine you can buy from doctors restores all your health instantly from the safety of a pause screen.  Duh!  Man, how I miss the days of complete instruction manuals.  So the fact is that I can handle the combat just fine.  It's not hard at all.  Want hard?  Play Borderlands' DLC3 in playthrough 2 after autoscaling has kicked in.  That's hard, and enjoyable too.  The save and continue system there is brilliant.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: PyroMenace on Saturday, October 22, 2011, 05:02:03 AM
Weird, I never in any instance of the game did I have an issue with the save system, I remember it autosaving all the time. Also I didn't find the 6 hour lose of time being an issue either, I would either head to a safe house and sleep and do some other stuff in the world.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Cobra951 on Saturday, October 22, 2011, 05:36:52 AM
What I hate is being in the midst of a beautiful day, saving, then being in the dark of night.  All I wanted to do with save, not lose the rest of the day.  It's a needless disconnect. And what's the idea anyway?  I can only think of it as a penalty.  Why should you ever pay a penalty to save your progress?

Some of my bad experiences were flukes, like having the horse jump off a cliff, or the game freezing when I opened an armoire in my room just before saving.  Yeah, the game autosaves regularly, provided you're mostly doing missions.  If you're just roaming the land, hunting and chasing other random challenges, hours of real time can pass without any autosaves.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Cobra951 on Saturday, October 29, 2011, 03:53:07 AM
I've now opened up the whole map.  I've played the game for well over a day of real time, according to the stats.  My impressions remain mixed, but fortunately the good is very good.  Mexico offers by far the most impressive vistas, but it also exposes some serious deficiencies in handling the Spanish language.  Come on, guys.  There are oodles of native Spanish speakers, and all you needed was one good Spanish proofreader for your script and subtitles.  No excuse here for voice actors who don't even understand what they're saying.  The weird thing is that most of the minor-characters' dialogue is authentic, while it's the major Mexican characters who tend to speak the embarrassingly bad lingo.  It would have been funny in a Speedy Gonzales cartoon from 1955.  Not here, not now.

The last area that unlocks is relatively boring after the beauty of Mexico.  Also, I have given up trying to have fixed brightness and contrast settings.  It's impossible for the game to look right everywhere, and at all times of day and night, with a single setting.  Brightness needs to come up at night and indoors, and it needs to come down in Mexico during bright sunny days.  It's a disappointing deficiency in the way the world is lit, where luminance is allowed to clip at both extremes, rather than the engine adjusting the luminance dynamically across the limited range available.  So either you have the sands become an indistinguishable sea of white, or you can't see indoors.  In fact, the only thing that looks amazingly good is the great outdoors during a bright sunny day, provided the display settings are good for it.  Sunrise to sunset outdoors during a pretty day: awesome, the best yet.  Everything else ranges from lousy to mediocre.

The story remains quite interesting, and I'm itching to see where it goes next.  I think I'm quite far into it, with Marston getting near his goal.  I wouldn't be surprised if I wrap that up in a couple more play sessions.  Overall, I'm glad I got the game.  With a little more effort on Rockstar's part, it could have been one of my top games ever.  As it stands, it's bittersweet.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: K-man on Tuesday, November 01, 2011, 07:49:28 AM
For someone ignorant of Spanish language (despite 3 years between high school and college dedicated to learning it), the voicework doesn't really bother me.  I agree with you on the lighting.  I find myself wishing things were brighter at night, and toned down during the day.

I haven't done a ton of exploring.  I regret that, too. I just find myself heading toward the next mission-giver.  I'd like to obtain a few of the suits, but seem to always be one or two tasks short of doing so.  Maybe I'll make that save game just prior to finishing (pyro informed me that it would be obvious when to do so) so I can just go explore at my leisure.

I have to purchase Uncharted 3 today (I have a k-mart gamer coupon that expires at the end of the week), so I'm not sure whether to power through the rest of the story so I can jump on Uncharted, or Just put RDR on hold and do the 2-3 day playthrough of Uncharted.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Cobra951 on Tuesday, November 01, 2011, 11:53:39 AM
Oh, so when the story finishes, the game ends and you can't keep exploring?  Thanks for the heads up.

So I played several hours of Undead Nightmare yesterday (Halloween).  That's a lot of fun.  It's more lighthearted than the main game, and I found myself laughing a bit.  This is the standalone version, which came with the GotY, but was also released on its own at retail.  Headshots galore.  It's forced me to get better at those without Dead Eye, since they're pretty much needed with zombies.  I did get some phosphorous bullet coating recently, but I haven't had a chance to try it yet.  That hopefully will alleviate the need for busting craniums.

They fixed the save system!  If you get UNDEAD'ed, it asks you if you want to start near the town you were in or closest to, with your ammo (and I imagine other stuff) as it was when you died, or if you want to restart from the checkpoint.  I wish they'd retrofit this into the main game, but I know that's a bitch on the consoles with their very limited patch space.

Oh, and my horse is now War, as in the 4 horsemen of the Apocalypse.  Found him and broke him.  Did the same to Pestilence, but War is just too awesome.  I now feel like the dude from Darksiders.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: TheOtherBelmont on Tuesday, November 01, 2011, 12:50:14 PM
Oh, so when the story finishes, the game ends and you can't keep exploring?  Thanks for the heads up.

Nope, you CAN explore after finishing the game.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: K-man on Tuesday, November 01, 2011, 02:47:48 PM
Really?  Pyro really stressed the importance of making a separate save before I go on to finish the game.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: TheOtherBelmont on Tuesday, November 01, 2011, 03:28:16 PM
Really?  Pyro really stressed the importance of making a separate save before I go on to finish the game.

That's probably a good idea, as I think there may be certain side things you can only do before you beat the game, but you can explore all you want after you finish the game.  I can't really go into details as to how and why without spoiling the game.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Cobra951 on Wednesday, November 23, 2011, 11:55:59 AM
OK, I finished the game, after having gone back to my last save before I started cheating.  After playing through Undead Nightmare (without cheating) I realized how dumb it was to use the cheats.  By disabling autosave (which results from enabling cheats), I had made progressing much harder than invincibility could possibly compensate for.  I also discovered a ridiculously easy way to force a save, when I felt the need for one on the spot (without safe house, camping, or 6 hours lost): change your horse.  You go into your satchel, and select one of your other horse deeds.  Done.  I used this more than once right after I was challenged to a duel (not that I get killed in duels anymore, now that I understand exactly how they work, but it's good to be safe).

As a result, I enjoyed the game a lot more.  Rockstar excels at figuring out ways to annoy me, but bad surprises were kept to a minimum the rest of the way.  It was an outstanding experience, and I wish I had more reasons to keep roaming the world.  The ending* disturbed (and annoyed) me greatly, since it came out of nowhere, and wasn't even explained.  It felt tacked on for shock and otherwise emotional value, rather than a natural consequence of the events leading up to it.  Other than that, wonderful trip through the old West, wonderfully brought to life.

* The ending . . .
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Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: K-man on Wednesday, November 23, 2011, 12:10:13 PM
Well,

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Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Cobra951 on Wednesday, November 23, 2011, 01:42:44 PM
Good points all around.

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Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: K-man on Wednesday, November 23, 2011, 01:59:37 PM
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Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: gpw11 on Thursday, November 24, 2011, 02:13:32 AM
Shit, I should not have read that last spoiler.  I'm actually kinda choked that this is the one Rockstar game to never hit PC.  I have it for PS3, but rarely get a chance to play it and think I'd be able to get into it a lot more on a PC.  Damn it.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Pugnate on Thursday, November 24, 2011, 11:17:01 AM
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Shit, I should not have read that last spoiler.

I can't believe I read it either. I don't know why I read it! I never do that.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Cobra951 on Thursday, November 24, 2011, 11:19:12 AM
Haha!  Do we need "Are you sure?" code in spoiler tags now, complete with a text field to hint at the severity of the spoiler?   :P
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Pugnate on Thursday, November 24, 2011, 01:52:49 PM
hahaha :)
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: K-man on Thursday, November 24, 2011, 08:20:32 PM
That really sucks.  Because this is one game I wouldn't want to spoil for anyone.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: gpw11 on Thursday, November 24, 2011, 11:05:56 PM
Ahaha.  I know, I just clicked on it for no reason.  I guess I subconsciously figured I'd never really fully get into the game again.  I'm literally at my house 2 days a week right now and playing the PS3 is the last thing I want to do.  Maybe when shit settles down/I move.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: idolminds on Saturday, June 23, 2012, 06:07:11 PM
Not reading spoiler, not reading spoilers....

I finally picked up the GOTY edition for myself and am having an absolute blast playing. Like "Damnit, why do I have to do things like bathe and eat? I just want to keep playing!" level of enjoyment.

Been doing a mix of missions and exploring. Did quite a few of those challenge side mission things, those are fun. And the minigames. I started getting the hang of horseshoes, won a little money in poker, and had an amazing come from behind win in liar's dice. So good.

One thing I haven't really had a problem with is money. I have yet to buy ammo. I bought a couple places to stay, bought a new pistol and shotgun, bandoleer, rabbits foot, etc. I mean, maybe the GOTY edition gives you a leg up since you start with that War Horse deed so Ive had no reason to buy another. I have a ton of stuff from skinning animals and some gold bars from treasure hunting and I haven't sold any of that stuff. So I guess if something comes along where I need money, I'll definitely have it.

Also I noticed that old people are crazy in the west.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: K-man on Sunday, June 24, 2012, 07:21:03 AM
Hah, I was wondering if your package delivered.  I guess I got my answer.

Money was never an issue for me in the game.  There's not a ton of one-time purchases, and you find ammo pretty much everywhere.  The War Horse is definitely a head start.

I'd also like to remind everyone (especially since the GOTY edition is occasionally being sold for peanuts now) that if you haven't played this game you really need to.  It is one of the finest console experiences of this generation.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Cobra951 on Sunday, July 01, 2012, 06:51:34 AM
Best open-world game this generation.  Bethesda could learn a few things from the Rockstar tech too.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: gpw11 on Sunday, July 01, 2012, 11:54:20 AM
I really wished this came out for PC.  I have it for the PS3 and really enjoy it, but I find I get more immersed in games when playing them on the pc. As it is, I haven't really gone anywhere past probably the first quarter of the game.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Cobra951 on Monday, July 18, 2016, 10:39:32 PM
I'm playing through this again, now that it went backward compatible on my console.  The horseplay absolutely puts The Witcher 3's to shame, 6 years later.  It's obvious too that TW3's horse mechanics drew a lot of inspiration from RDR.  Either that, or both games were inspired the same way by an earlier game.  (Zelda OoT?  There is an Epona Plaza in TW3's Blood and Wine DLC.)  Instead of getting infinite stamina by staying on the roads, RDR's horses get a speed boost instead.  Everything else is almost exactly alike, except that it actually works reliably well in RDR.  It's uncanny how well this game has held up since 2010.  Nothing feels archaic.  And it still looks beautiful, if a bit rough around the edges.  The save system still sucks, but as I discovered in that "d'oh!" moment I spoke of over 4 years ago, forcing an autosave any time by changing horses makes the silly 6-hour-wasting manual saves a nonissue.

At first I thought I'd just roam around a bit, to reminisce and get reacquainted, but now I'm in it full tilt.  I fully intend to play though the whole thing once more, with a more stable frame rate to boot.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: K-man on Wednesday, July 20, 2016, 07:11:44 AM
I've maintained that it would be impossible to go back to this game if only because of the story.  But Cobra's post now has me tempted to try.

I picked up a copy of the GOTY edition for ps3 at a pawn shop.  Trying to decide which platform to play it on.  I guess 360's version remains superior if you don't own an xbone.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Cobra951 on Wednesday, July 20, 2016, 08:04:29 AM
Did you not like the story?  It's not a rosy one, but you can always just get to a good point in it, and stay there.

As with most sandbox games, I much prefer the big world and what I freely get to do in it.  The story gets a lot less time and attention.

It's funny how this never made it to PC.  I guess it's a product of its time, when PC gaming was in decline, at least in the eyes of piracy-wary distributors.  It can't be that hard to port from the original source code, unless that has been lost.  I think the revival of interest after making it compatible with the X1 took them by surprise.  (Game sales spiked as a result, to the point of briefly crashing that page on the XBL marketplace.)  Maybe they'll rethink a port?  A sequel rumor is picking up steam.

I'm just past lassoing and breaking wild horses now.  I had to look up again how to keep a horse lassoed long enough to dismount and hop on it.  I remember that being impossible to figure out the first time around too.  (Short tap on the shoot/lasso button is key.)
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: K-man on Wednesday, July 20, 2016, 09:50:14 AM
No, I loved the story.  It was probably my favorite part about the game.  But once you experience the end it's difficult to go back and play it again from the same point of view.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: MysterD on Monday, July 25, 2016, 03:59:32 PM
Did you not like the story?  It's not a rosy one, but you can always just get to a good point in it, and stay there.

As with most sandbox games, I much prefer the big world and what I freely get to do in it.  The story gets a lot less time and attention.

It's funny how this never made it to PC.  I guess it's a product of its time, when PC gaming was in decline, at least in the eyes of piracy-wary distributors.  It can't be that hard to port from the original source code, unless that has been lost.  I think the revival of interest after making it compatible with the X1 took them by surprise.  (Game sales spiked as a result, to the point of briefly crashing that page on the XBL marketplace.)  Maybe they'll rethink a port?  A sequel rumor is picking up steam.

I'm just past lassoing and breaking wild horses now.  I had to look up again how to keep a horse lassoed long enough to dismount and hop on it.  I remember that being impossible to figure out the first time around too.  (Short tap on the shoot/lasso button is key.)

Oh, I'd love to see a RD Redemp PC port.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Cobra951 on Monday, July 25, 2016, 10:40:27 PM
Yeah, me too.  This game needs to stay alive, and make the jump to the premium platform, for the sake of posterity if nothing else.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption
Post by: MysterD on Monday, July 22, 2019, 03:15:01 PM
Might be a good time to revive this thread, given the rumors swirling around.

Rumor has it with the 10th Anniversary of Red Dead Redemption 1 coming up, Rockstar's working on a full-blown Remake or Remaster:

GameRant article on it - https://gamerant.com/red-dead-redemption-remake-rumor/

Reddit thread on the news - https://www.reddit.com/r/reddeadredemption/comments/cfrj1y/red_dead_redemption_remake_reportedly_in/

- The map for RDR1 is actually there entirely in RDR2.
- A glitch in RDR2 accidentally played un-used recorded dialogue from a protagonist from RDR1, leading to the rumor.
- Possibly, RDR1 could become DLC and an actual part of RDR2 ... to try to link the two stories together into one big package.
- RDR2 is a prequel to RDR1.
- John Marston's voice-actor reportedly has been brought back to the studio, to record new lines of dialogue.
- Marston's voice-actor might've been brought back, to possibly link the two games together.
- 2K supposedly wants more output & releases from Rockstar, so this RDR Remake/Remaster could make sense.
- RDR1 never hit the PC, so....this would make sense until GTA6 comes out.