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Title: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: MysterD on Wednesday, February 27, 2013, 05:06:03 PM
NEW -> 10/31/2013:
OWNet -> AC4: Black Flag - Console Reviews (except XB1). (http://www.overwritten.net/forum/index.php?topic=8899.msg121132#msg121132)
IGN -> "The Best Assassin's Creed Games". (http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/10/31/the-best-assassins-creed-games?utm_campaign=fbposts&utm_source=facebook)

OLD:
RockPaperShotgun -> Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag rumored to be the title to next AC game - with a pirates theme. (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/02/27/assassins-creed-4-leak/)
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag rumor -> AC4 might be Pirate-themed
Post by: W7RE on Wednesday, February 27, 2013, 05:15:16 PM
Every time a new Assassin's Creed game comes out, it makes me less interested in the series. I guess it's because I'd really prefer to play ALL the games in the series, and at this point I'm 3 games behind. (Brotherhood, Revelations, and 3) So now I'm behind by more games than I've played, and 2 of them feature Ezio, who I really don't give a shit about. Altair and his locales were way more interesting, despite the first game itself being seriously lacking.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag rumor -> AC4 might be Pirate-themed
Post by: MysterD on Wednesday, February 27, 2013, 05:24:22 PM
I'm in the process of playing Revelations - and yeah, it's still quite good, but it also has this feeling more so than ever that....it's just another AC game.
I don't know...it's just that AC2 improved so ridiculously much over AC1; and ACB was such a surprisingly awesome game with a bunch of new stuff and banked-out so quickly (ACB offered Recruiting NPC assassins to help you AND added a MP portion).

ACR felt like the first time...it didn't have a lot of new features to offer. While I really dig the new location and return of some characters, I don't care much for the new gameplay missions (Tower Defense and Desmond's Portal-like puzzles).

I really hope they don't run AC series into the ground annually and yearly...
...especially since I really dig the idea of AC going into the Pirates theme and would like to see them really expand the hell out of mission-types - especially w/ piratey-themed type of missions!
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag rumor -> AC4 might be Pirate-themed
Post by: idolminds on Wednesday, February 27, 2013, 09:29:11 PM
I'm just skipping Revelations. Will probably get 3 when its cheap. Gonna see about 4. Pirates could be cool but...uh, what am I going to be climbing on?
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag rumor -> AC4 might be Pirate-themed
Post by: Xessive on Wednesday, February 27, 2013, 10:19:09 PM
I think they're responding to the critics praise of the ship battle segments in AC3, which were ok but I'd rather not have a game built around it explicitly. I play Assassin's Creed games for the platforming exploration and the agile combat, not wonky vehicle sideshows.

Pirate theme is cool.. Imagine there'd be a lot of mast climbing.

Altaïr was by far the most interesting of the characters to me as well.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag rumor -> AC4 might be Pirate-themed
Post by: idolminds on Wednesday, February 27, 2013, 11:37:09 PM
Would be cool if they just spun off their own naval warfare game. Like a new Sea Dogs/Pirates of the Caribbean type game? That would be pretty boss.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag rumor -> AC4 might be Pirate-themed
Post by: gpw11 on Wednesday, February 27, 2013, 11:40:49 PM
I think I'm just skipping the non- numbered games.  I also ended up skipping the last 1/4 or so of Assassin's Creed 2, but that's just me being lazy.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag rumor -> AC4 might be Pirate-themed
Post by: idolminds on Thursday, February 28, 2013, 12:13:41 AM
You didn't miss much. I'll give you the short version:

Ezio: Itsa me, Ezio! I totally need to kill the pope after an epic battle!

*epic battle*

Pope: Ouch!
Ezio: Even though I have killed at least half the population of Rome that you somehow trained as guards, I'm going to be all moral and shit and not kill you, Evil Pope.
Pope: Thanks bro.

*SCIFI SHIT THAT EVEN EZIO SAYS WTF*

Fin.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag rumor -> AC4 might be Pirate-themed
Post by: Pugnate on Thursday, February 28, 2013, 12:17:04 AM
Had Idol been a bigger fan of AC, he would have had multiple orgasms by now.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag rumor -> AC4 might be Pirate-themed
Post by: gpw11 on Thursday, February 28, 2013, 01:13:05 AM
You didn't miss much. I'll give you the short version:

Ezio: Itsa me, Ezio! I totally need to kill the pope after an epic battle!

*epic battle*

Pope: Ouch!
Ezio: Even though I have killed at least half the population of Rome that you somehow trained as guards, I'm going to be all moral and shit and not kill you, Evil Pope.
Pope: Thanks bro.

*SCIFI SHIT THAT EVEN EZIO SAYS WTF*

Fin.



Bahahaha
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag rumor -> AC4 might be Pirate-themed
Post by: idolminds on Thursday, February 28, 2013, 07:52:44 AM
Had Idol been a bigger fan of AC, he would have had multiple orgasms by now.
I just kinda got burned out on Ezio as a character. I'm sure after I play 3 I'll be all excited again.

Also, rumor no more (http://www.shacknews.com/article/78022/assassins-creed-4-black-flag-confirmed-by-box-art). Ok, the piratey theme has me interested. But boy if you thought the white hood stood out before... Come on, Assassins, you need to literally get with the times.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag rumor -> AC4 might be Pirate-themed
Post by: MysterD on Thursday, February 28, 2013, 03:48:18 PM
I just kinda got burned out on Ezio as a character. I'm sure after I play 3 I'll be all excited again.

Also, rumor no more (http://www.shacknews.com/article/78022/assassins-creed-4-black-flag-confirmed-by-box-art). Ok, the piratey theme has me interested. But boy if you thought the white hood stood out before... Come on, Assassins, you need to literally get with the times.

Shouldn't the Assassin's outfit be a pirate-y color like....black?
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag rumor -> AC4 might be Pirate-themed
Post by: idolminds on Monday, March 04, 2013, 11:45:30 AM


Ok, I sorta want it now.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag rumor -> AC4 might be Pirate-themed
Post by: gpw11 on Monday, March 04, 2013, 04:55:08 PM
HOLY SHIT.  They keep on bringing me back into this series.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag rumor -> AC4 might be Pirate-themed
Post by: MysterD on Tuesday, March 05, 2013, 04:13:38 PM
PC Gamer -> Info on AC4. (http://www.pcgamer.com/previews/assassins-creed-4-black-flag-everything-you-need-to-know/)
PC Gamer -> 40% of AC4 is naval-based. (http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/03/05/assassins-creed-4-40-of-missions-to-be-ship-shaped/)
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: idolminds on Monday, March 25, 2013, 02:13:02 PM


Ok, I definitely want it now.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: MysterD on Wednesday, June 19, 2013, 05:49:02 PM
And no PC gamer is surprised... (http://www.shacknews.com/article/79830/assassins-creed-4-black-flag-for-pc-to-come-after?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)

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Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag for PC to come after consoles
by John Keefer, Jun 20, 2013 12:30am PDT
Related Topics – Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag, xbox 360, PlayStation 3, Ubisoft, PC, Wii U, Ubisoft Montreal, PlayStation 4, Assassin's Creed series, Xbox One

Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag will be out on October 26 for Xbox 360, PlayStation 3 and Wii U on October 29, and will be a launch title for the next-gen Xbox One and PlayStation 4. Unfortunately, if you want to get a taste of the pirate life on PC, you'll have to wait even longer, and that should come as no surprise.

As has become routine for the Assassin's Creed series, the PC version will come "a few weeks after" the next-gen consoles launch sometime in November, Ubisoft game director Ashraf Ismail told ElderGeek (via GameSpot).
The PC version of Assassin's Creed 3 launched almost a month after the console versions, while Assassin's Creed 2 launched several months after its Xbox 360 and PS3 counterparts.

"We're working hard on the PC version," Ismail said. "It's one of the main platforms we work on in the office. For our PC fans, don't worry. The game on PC looks phenomenal."
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: MysterD on Tuesday, October 08, 2013, 10:11:45 AM
Eurogamer -> AC4 Season Pass and DLC announced. (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-10-08-assassins-creed-4-season-pass-and-dlc-announced)

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Ubisoft has revealed its plans for Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag's post-release content with the announcement of a season pass and a DLC campaign.

The highlight of the season pass will be nine-mission self-contained story entitled Freedom City, in which you play as protagonist Edward Kenway's first mate Adewale. Allegedly containing three hours of single-player content, the campaign will star a shipwrecked Adewale in Saint-Domingue as he rescues slaves and seeks vengeance upon his former captors.


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Furthermore, the season pass will unlock additional single-player missions, weapons, skins, and collectibles, as well as more multiplayer characters and exclusive customisation options for your ship, the Jackdaw, via the Kraken Ship Pack.

While no price has been announced, the season pass will save players 20 per cent off purchasing all of its content individually. All of Black Flag's season pass DLC is due before March on PS3, PS4, Xbox One, Xbox 360 and PC.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: MysterD on Tuesday, October 29, 2013, 05:46:54 PM
Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag - Console Version REVIEWS
(except XBOne version, which is under embargo for 2 weeks)

Scored out of 10:
EGM Now -> 9.5 (http://www.egmnow.com/articles/reviews/egm-next-gen-review-assassins-creed-iv-black-flag/)
GameTrailers -> 9.2 (http://www.gametrailers.com/reviews/czas4t/assassin-s-creed-iv--black-flag-review)
GameSpot -> 9 (http://www.gamespot.com/reviews/assassin-s-creed-iv-black-flag-review/1900-6415509/)
Eurogamer -> 9 (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-10-29-assassins-creed-4-black-flag-review)
OXM Online -> 9.0 (http://www.oxmonline.com/assassins-creed-iv-black-flag-review)
OXM UK -> 9.0 (http://www.oxm.co.uk/65066/reviews/assassins-creed-4-black-flag-xbox-360-review/)
GamerLimit -> 9.0 (http://gamerlimit.com/2013/10/review-assassins-creed-iv-black-flag/)
ZTGD -> 9.0 (http://www.ztgd.com/reviews/assassins-creed-iv-black-flag/)
PlayStation LifeStyle -> 9.0 (http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2013/10/29/assassins-creed-iv-black-flag-review-ps3/)
Edge -> 9 (http://www.edge-online.com/review/assassins-creed-iv-black-flag-review/)
God Is A Geek -> 9 (http://www.godisageek.com/2013/10/assassins-creed-iv-black-flag-review/)
The Globe And Mail -> 9 (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/technology/gaming/review-assassins-creed-iv-black-flag-a-jolly-pirates-life-for-you/article15131685/)
IGN -> 8.5 (http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/10/29/assassins-creed-4-black-flag-review)
Destructoid -> 8.5 (http://www.destructoid.com/review-assassin-s-creed-iv-black-flag-264631.phtml)
GameInformer -> 8.25 (http://www.gameinformer.com/games/assassins_creed_iv_black_flag/b/playstation4/archive/2013/10/29/assassins-creed-iv-black-flag-review-game-informer.aspx)
NowGamer -> 8.0 (http://www.nowgamer.com/xbox-360/xbox360-reviews/2136785/assassins_creed_4_black_flag_review.html)
The Digital Fix -> 8.0 (http://gaming.thedigitalfix.com/content/id/2017/assassins-creed-iv-black-flag.html)
Games TM -> 8.0 (http://www.gamestm.co.uk/reviews/assassins-creed-iv-black-flag-review/)
Push Square -> 8 (http://www.pushsquare.com/reviews/ps3/assassins_creed_iv_black_flag)
Shacknews -> 8 (http://www.shacknews.com/article/81778/assassins-creed-4-review-high-seas-high-thrills)
Polygon -> 7.5 (http://www.polygon.com/2013/10/29/4861080/assassins-creed-4-black-flag-review)
VideoGamer -> 7 (http://www.videogamer.com/reviews/assassins_creed_4_black_flag_review.html)

Scored out of 100:
VentureBeat -> 85 (http://venturebeat.com/2013/10/29/assassins-creed-iv-black-flag-review/)
GamingTrend -> 85 (http://gamingtrend.com/reviews/drink-hearties-yo-ho-assassins-creed-iv-black-flag-review/)

Scored out of 5:
Escapist Magazine -> 5 stars. (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/reviews/10696-Assassins-Creed-IV-Black-Flag-Review-Pirate-this-Game)
GamesRadar -> 4 1/2 stars. (http://www.gamesradar.com/assassins-creed-iv-black-flag-review/)
Game Revolution -> 4 1/2 (http://www.gamerevolution.com/review/assassins-creed-iv-black-flag)
Joystiq -> 4 stars (http://www.joystiq.com/2013/10/29/assassins-creed-4-black-flag-ps4-review-572f294c/)
Rev3 Games -> 4 stars. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB_fM8jsbGU); PS4 vs. X360 comparison. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB_fM8jsbGU)
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: idolminds on Wednesday, June 25, 2014, 09:54:14 AM
I picked up AC3 for a couple bucks last week. Short version: Ran through it pretty fast. It had a bunch of weird problems. It does seem to be the weakest AC game.

I also got AC4 in the other day. Hooooooooly shit this game is AMAZING. Someone at Ubisoft took the Assassins Creed team and told them to make a new Sid Meirs Pirates!, and they totally did. Being able to run around a town doing all your typical AC town stuff, swim out to your ship, board and set sail, get into naval battles, reach another island where you can jump off and swim to shore and do more AC on-foot stuff...with no loading screen in between any of it? Amazing. It really feels like you have the whole Caribbean to just wander around.

If you haven't played this, then you need to play this. Don't worry about previous AC games. Just play this.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: Cobra951 on Wednesday, June 25, 2014, 01:32:47 PM
Sold!  I've been wanting to try this, and now I really want to.  I need to find it at a good price for the 360.  It's too expensive on XBL.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: idolminds on Wednesday, June 25, 2014, 02:28:08 PM
I dont know if the deal is still up, but Gamefly was selling used copies for $13, which is where I bought it. Every used gamefly game Ive bought is in great shape, minimal wear if any, and original cases, instructions, and if they need codes then the codes are included and unused. End of the month they usually do sales to clear stuff out and I know they had both PS3 and 360 copies.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: PyroMenace on Wednesday, June 25, 2014, 05:13:34 PM
I have been playing AC3 on and off for like the past half of this year but I finally finished it off today and I'm digging into AC4. So far it is sooooo much fucking better than AC3, looks fucking great, feels much better, and the story sounds so much more interesting.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: Cobra951 on Wednesday, June 25, 2014, 07:37:03 PM
I love it when things work out (http://www.amazon.com/Assassins-Creed-IV-Black-Flag-Xbox/dp/B00BMFIXT2) so nicely.  $17.99 is less than half of what the digital version is going for on XBL.  Even with a few dollars for shipping, it's quite a bargain.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: idolminds on Wednesday, June 25, 2014, 09:03:50 PM
Haha, lucky!
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: Xessive on Thursday, June 26, 2014, 04:04:19 AM
I don't know even know why ASsassin's Creed 4 Black Flag is an Assassin's Creed game.. It feels like the AC IP was forcibly jammed into an otherwise decent pirate game just to give it some context. It may as well have been its own pirate game!
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: Cobra951 on Monday, June 30, 2014, 11:09:00 PM
I started on this today, and made it to Havana.  Heheh!  It's really close to home.  I knew it was about Caribbean pirates, but I didn't make the obvious connection.  It's a lot like looking at some very familiar places, like parts of old San Juan, and San Felipe del Morro, an ancient Spanish fortress built to guard San Juan from invasion by sea.  Lots of Castillian Spanish being bandied about too.  Here's my favorite exchange so far:  One guard says to another "I almost got my nose blown off."  The other replies "that's a shame; you would be a lot more handsome without it."

It feels very much like an AC game at this point--a highly polished one.  I know there's the whole pirate-galleon aspect to it, but I've only gotten a very limited taste of that so far.  I'm really looking forward to getting further.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: PyroMenace on Tuesday, July 01, 2014, 11:31:40 PM
One of my favorite ones

Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: Cobra951 on Wednesday, July 02, 2014, 07:47:58 AM
Nice!  Can we choose which one they sing?  I got every one of the shanties from Havana.

I'm now out to sea, since late last night.  Awesomeness.  Made it to that first little island.  Some hunting and a couple of crafting upgrades.  That part felt like an easier Far Cry 3.  Nothing tried to eat me, though I imagine alligators and jaguars will be more aggressive than iguanas and ocelots.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: idolminds on Wednesday, July 02, 2014, 10:38:18 AM
I don't think you can select shanties directly, but you can hit the "sing" button (left on the dpad) to make them cycle through the ones you have.

Yes, the other animals are more aggressive but still aren't too much of a threat. I haven't seen gators even come on land so its easy to just shoot them before hopping in the water.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: Cobra951 on Wednesday, July 02, 2014, 07:28:23 PM
You're right about alligators--easy.  But I was almost killed by 2 jaguars that attacked me in quick succession.  Managed to kill one, then another jumps me from seemingly nowhere.  I ended up running away and diving in the water with a sliver of health left.

The sailing is super.  Love it.  I've been island hopping, and doing no mission stuff at all since leaving Havana.  I managed to harpoon a shark, but this timed challenge with the white whale (from hell's heart, I stab at thee!) was way beyond my capabilities at this point.  The harpoons were barely nicking the damn thing, and I'd either run out of them, or it would crush the boat in 2 tail swipes.

I have Nassau all revealed now too.  My only real complaint so far is that they seem to have made the camera problems even worse than all the other games.  It moves in way too close during combat, and it's painfully slow to turn around, with the end result being a blind fight half the time when surrounded by enemies.  That sure doesn't help the button context issues, though I can at least understand those (few buttons, many functions).
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: PyroMenace on Wednesday, July 02, 2014, 08:02:50 PM
Yea the combat can be a bit wonky, Ive had issues when boarding ships and just the chaos of my crew mates and their guys being thrown at each other I have a hard time nailing counters or trying to get a combo off to kill a dude. I have a lot of health now so I rarely die but there are times where I lose a good bit of health.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: idolminds on Wednesday, July 02, 2014, 09:46:26 PM
I have that same problem when boarding ships. Chaos and I can't see the guy just behind me coming in for the attack.

Harpooning is kinda fun. Luckily you can upgrade your harpoon damage, number of them, and that little boats armor pretty easily. Was one of the first things I maxed out in upgrading. Havent seen a while whale yet but I think those are based off some online feature that I currently can't make use of because patching the game would take days.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: Cobra951 on Wednesday, July 02, 2014, 10:20:54 PM
Yeah, Moby Dick (for that's what it is, really, even if they can't call it that) is some sort of a timed thing, with a different-color marker on the map, and a number of hours until the challenge goes away.  I figured it was an online thing.  It's gone now.   :(

I realized I had to move the story along to be able to upgrade stuff and get recognized as a ship's captain by those shops.  I can now get unto the captain's cabin too.  Nifty.  The ship-to-ship stuff makes my day.  So much piratey goodness.  I haven't had too much trouble so far staying back and taking potshots with the swivel and then my pistols, during the boarding stage.  I jumped across once, and yeah, what a chaotic mess.  I think I'll let the crew handle the rumbles as much as the game will let me.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: Cobra951 on Thursday, July 03, 2014, 12:25:04 PM
Oh, man!  We can pummel forts from the ship and then capture them?!  What a rush.  Went in blind at a red spot on the map, not knowing what to expect, and damn!  Best experience in a video game in a while.  Traded fire, broke the defenses, then rushed in on foot.  Some swashbuckling later, the place went green, and immediately started gunning down the enemy ships nearby.  I guess I now own this slice of the ocean?  Makes me look at all those other red spots in a completely different light.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: idolminds on Thursday, July 03, 2014, 02:03:07 PM
haha yeah, attacking forts is awesome. Soon as I learned that it opens up the map I went and sacked 3 of them in a row.

The difficulty seems to be based on where you are north-south. North is easier, south is harder. I haven't attacked the more southern forts yet. Figured I should beef up my ship a little more.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: idolminds on Friday, July 04, 2014, 01:18:12 PM
So about that white whale. I was hanging around an area attacking ships and a big white whale jumped out of the water. But...thats it. Sailed to that spot and there wasnt any harpoon mission or anything. It was like it was just decoration. I dont know what to make of it.

And if I have one tip to give people its this: If you see a ship carrying metal, attack it! I am constantly low on metal and its setting back my ship upgrading. I got lucky and ended up in an area where lots of british ships were spawning and a lot of them had metal so I was finally able to do some upgrades. The next story mission I had warned me that I should upgrade so...thats what I'm doing. Just need more metal! And now wood. But not cloth. I have so damn much cloth...
Title: Re:
Post by: gpw11 on Friday, July 04, 2014, 01:48:29 PM
Sooooo.....I should buy this?
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: Cobra951 on Friday, July 04, 2014, 02:35:19 PM
Hell yes.  It's like 3 games in one, counting the Abstergo stuff.  And at least 2 of them (AC stuff & seafaring-pirate stuff) are huge.  Minor quibbles aside, I rate this one at the top of my gaming experiences.  I don't think I'm even a third into it, after playing heavily since Monday.  I'll be thinking about it all weekend, since I'm away from the Xbox.  July 4th and all that minor stuff.  :P

I've seen a white whale pop up out of the water too, but no opportunity to interact either.  There was another 5-hour+ whale event late last night, as I was about to quit the game.  So I missed that too.  I've upgraded the harpooning a lot, but it still takes me a bit of effort to bring down a hammerhead.  I have not seen a great white at all.  I need that for another health upgrade (I think).  I can't imagine how hard whales will be, if I ever get to one again.

So I made it to my hideout last night.  Looks like the middle tier (North to South) is open now too.  I sailed around there a bit, and did some exploring.  I don't know if I'm going to like the Fleet aspect of the game.  It seems like a throwback to decades past.  We'll see.  I barely got my feet wet there, so far.  One disappointment is that it won't let me sail freely to the North end of Inagua.  When I try, it just forces me into the menu, and then parks me on the main dock on the Southern bay.  I had such a tough time finding my way to the North-side chests and other goodies from the dock.  I finally found the way into the jungle that I traversed initially, but I didn't enjoy feeling so lost for almost an hour.  Heh.  A jaguar almost had me for supper too.

Oh, and I went after a legendary ship.  Haha!  Mistake.  Two Level-75 man-o-wars.  Absolutely no damage showed on them, even when I got a long time to pummel them before they took me out.  Tried 3 times, and on the 4th, I just turned around and went away with my tail between my legs.  I have all the hull upgrades except elite too.  This fight is treated as an event, and I'm guessing I have to pass certain gauntlet-like hurdles before the game will let me see any progress in it.  I'll try again after some more progress in the main game.

And if I have one tip to give people its this: If you see a ship carrying metal, attack it! I am constantly low on metal and its setting back my ship upgrading.

Same here.  I have no problem with other resources, but metal really seems scarce.  I sit there for a long time trying to decide what to upgrade next, because I know whatever I don't choose will have to wait a long while.  It seems the bigger ships are more likely to have it.  The schooners get me wood and cloth, but not metal.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: idolminds on Saturday, July 05, 2014, 04:56:40 PM
I'm having a lot more luck on the south side of the large central island looking for metal. Larger ships carrying 100+ metal. Not too hard to take down (though I am pretty upgraded already). The smaller escort ships I can sink simply by ramming them, and pulling up along side the big ships and letting hem have it with heavy shot they go down pretty quick. Maybe I got lucky, but I was piling up my metal down there.

Also, the underwater dives are a fun idea and look pretty but there are not fun. You move slow, you have to keep an eye on your air, there are sharks that act like patrolling guards that you can't kill...ugh. I don't even try do them "the right way"...beeline swim to chests or whatever it is I'm collecting. If I die who cares, it just puts me at the start and I can go after a different chest.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: Cobra951 on Saturday, July 05, 2014, 06:25:30 PM
Thanks for the tip on the metal.  I haven't progressed enough for the underwater diving yet.  I saw some video of wrestling a shark, and after similar experiences with jaguars, I'm not looking forward to it.  I don't care much about desynchronizing either.  There seem to be no real consequences outside of missions (and even in missions, they're not usually much of a problem).  If the activity is obtuse enough (like mash-a-button fights with jaguars), it doesn't even injure my pride.
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Post by: Xessive on Sunday, July 06, 2014, 12:21:48 AM
I took down my first Legendary ship (Northwest). I'm not even full upgraded, it can take me out in two shots, but I managed to close in too close for its cannons and jump kept ramming it and blasting it from the rear while avoiding its sides.
That came with a due sense of accomplishment.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: Cobra951 on Sunday, July 06, 2014, 09:04:28 AM
My encounter was against 2 big suckers (Level-75 man-o-wars), and they kept tag-teaming me.  They would out-sail me into the distance, then charge at me in unison, wide apart.  I could last through several passes, but I never seemed to make any progress against them, regardless of how many mortar shells and volleys of heavy shot I lobbed at them.  Maybe I should look for an easier one my first time around.  Did you see damage displayed, or is this aspect of the game like so many other boss fights, where the usual rules (like a damage gauge) don't apply?
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: idolminds on Sunday, July 06, 2014, 10:19:25 AM
I haven't gone after any legendary ships yet so I cant help there. But speaking of man-o-wars, I've started finding them more and attacking. On top of a large cargo hold they also award money when you capture them. A 3-4 heavy shot volleys tends to do the trick. They are slow to turn it seems so if you get in just sort of behind them they cant turn quick enough to get their guns on you which you're hitting them with full force.

I took down some more forts including one in the hard area of the sea. I did ok but I took a major beating and my ship was down to the last half of the last bar of health. I sailed back away from the fort and just hit them with mortars while avoiding their mortars. And once I thought I was in the clear...nope, some ships came into the area and started chasing me! I had to sail quite a ways away to lose them so I could sneak back and dock with my sliver of health. Was quite a rush!
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: Cobra951 on Monday, July 07, 2014, 06:51:41 AM
Heheh!  I swear that's the best part of the game.  The whole naval aspect is hard to stay away from for long.  I've been taking down some Level-36 man-o-wars.  I have 3 of them in Kenway's fleet now, all Spanish.  According to that sideshow, they're slugs.  (Where one schooner shows a speed stat of 67, the big beasts all come in at 9.)  That wasn't my experience with the legendary bastards, though.  They would sail away from me until they were entirely out of range, then next time I saw them, they were bearing down on me fast.  The Jackdaw seemed completely outclassed (not to mention outnumbered).

I've been running into more metal cargo too, always on the bigger ships.  The last 2 I brought down had like 150 metal on them (near where you mentioned), so I've been able to make more upgrades.  It's still a slow process compared to the other resources.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: Xessive on Monday, July 07, 2014, 08:07:25 AM
Ok, I did something a little weird. I approached an enemy vessel without starting naval combat, I jumped off the Jackdaw, swam over to the vessel, climbed up, and eliminated everyone on board in typical Assassin fashion. I was a little miffed when that didn't simply count toward taking the ship. Although, when I went back to the Jackdaw the enemy vessel was now stationery, real easy to blast out of the water and then I had to "board" it which automatically spawned some enemies for me to eliminate.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: Cobra951 on Monday, July 07, 2014, 08:16:26 AM
Oh, wow.  That has to be a hole in the logic.  Entertaining nonetheless.  I have to try it now.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: Cobra951 on Monday, July 07, 2014, 07:09:16 PM
Getting a low wanted level (1-2) helps a lot with metal.  Most hunter ships seem to carry it.  I'm sailing routinely now that way, and I'm up to 785 metal with nothing useful (i.e., non-cosmetic) to spend it on.  What I'm lacking now are the plans for some of the elite upgrades.

Level 3 works too, but the challenge level spikes a great deal.  So I avoid going that far.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: PyroMenace on Monday, July 07, 2014, 08:32:25 PM
I'm at the tail end of the game. I've explored and gathered all the collectable stuff from all the locations, got all the keys and mayan stones. I still have a handful of buried treasure to get and those scattered chests and animus fragments around the map. I'm sitting on about 90k money right now with not much else to spend on.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: Xessive on Tuesday, July 08, 2014, 09:18:00 AM
Did anyone else notice that health/armor upgrades which you craft are already on Kenway's default outfit from the beginning? I think they were planning to make the outfit change slightly visually with each health upgrade (like in the original and Ezio trilogy) but then scrapped the idea at the last minute.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: PyroMenace on Tuesday, July 08, 2014, 10:09:34 AM
I'm not sure to be honest. I thought it changed but I messed around with switching outfits a bunch so I couldn't really notice.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: Cobra951 on Tuesday, July 08, 2014, 11:22:20 PM
Has anyone messed around with Kenway's Fleet?  It's more engrossing than I thought it would be.  Online only, but it makes sense, with it being real-time and persistent.  It gives the best reason to capture ships, and seek out the ones at the higher levels.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: PyroMenace on Tuesday, July 08, 2014, 11:43:37 PM
Yea its pretty cool. I sort of stopped messing with it so much as I was gaining money from it too quickly and thus making the game easier, I enjoyed boarding ships and plundering them for money instead. I only used it for just getting the unlocks.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: PyroMenace on Wednesday, July 09, 2014, 12:01:30 AM
Well I finished it up earlier today, finish as in I collected everything, inside and outside of the animus as well as the story. I also took out all the legendary ships, the dual ship one was a bitch. You really have to get a feel for their maneuvers because it comes down to exploiting that, also you can't just take down one of the ships at a time. Doing that buffs the other ship and it does ridiculous ramming damage, killing you quickly, so you want to get them both down to really low health taking them out in succession quickly.

Anyway what a game. I would place this in a spot in league with Red Dead, in that the carribean pirate world they created is just as absorbing and fun as Red Dead's western one. Red Dead wins it with it's really impactful story, but AC4 may have your typically underwhelming ending as most of the AC games do, they still provide with awesome characters and great dialogue and voice acting. Overall, and this is coming from somebody who finished off AC3 right beforehand, you can tell they learned a bunch from that one as a lot of the gameplay systems and mechanics are just done more smart and less obtuse and even frustrating, like the outside animus stuff is pushed more to the side and even serves as an environment to optionally explore and gain more insight to that side of the story if you are interested. Story missions are much more fun and I at least didn't encounter a quarter of the bugs I did in AC3, though there were some. So if you haven't jumped into the AC games in a while, don't worry about any of the other ones, just play this.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: Cobra951 on Wednesday, July 09, 2014, 01:41:15 AM
Thanks for that post mortem.  I am very much in agreement, about what I have experienced so far.  As I do with all games that give me so much freedom and suck me in so deep, I'm taking my sweet time.  I can't get enough of the sailing/piracy thing.  It's starting to feel a bit repetitive, but I keep doing it anyway.  I still don't have that diving bell, for example.  Sweeeeet . . . time . . .

I'm so very happy for the generous checkpoints in that mainstay of AC games, the absolute-stealth missions.  I hate it when just being seen by the enemy basically kills you off and moves you back.  I've never liked that mechanic in any game.  It's less frustrating here, because you never seem to lose more than a few minutes of progress on a desync.  I was glad to see them mix it up sometimes, encouraging stealth, but allowing other tactics and even combat.

Bugs are so scarce that it feels odd to run into one now and then.  I had a funny one last night when the game wouldn't let me into the final room of a captured castle to kill its leader.  It kept saying I had to become anonymous to interact.  But the only people who kept getting these yellow bubbles of awareness were a couple of my crew, who were following me around, making small talk.  The game wouldn't let me attack them.  Finally I picked up a powder keg, set it down between them, and shot it.  They blew up, and then I was able to open the door.  Haha!

I can't do the legendary ships at all yet.  I'm alarmed about that because I'm as upgraded as I can get without all those elite plans.  (I have to get further in the story to access those maps and treasures, I assume.)  I've tried 3 different ones now, and they all take me down while still showing most of their health.  Kinda discouraging.  I'm not giving up, though.

Edit:
Yea its pretty cool. I sort of stopped messing with it so much as I was gaining money from it too quickly and thus making the game easier, I enjoyed boarding ships and plundering them for money instead. I only used it for just getting the unlocks.

It's even easier when you exploit the simple battle logic.  
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Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: idolminds on Wednesday, July 09, 2014, 03:27:44 PM
I'm getting near the end, I think Im on the last sequence. But I'll have a lot more to do after the story ends, lots of treasures to find yet. I did get all the Templar keys and the Mayan stones so I've unlocked those 2 outfits. I wish all of the had hood, though. Its weird in certain cutscenes Edward will make a hand gesture of pulling a hood up...with no hood.

I tried my luck at one legendary ship. It was going pretty well. Avoided the mortar fire as I approached and got in behind him, then I could fire chain into him and ram him over and over. Ha! Exploited you! Then he got to half health, turned on a dime and wasted me with a single barrage of heavy shot.

Then I sailed away to do other things...
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: Cobra951 on Wednesday, July 09, 2014, 06:55:24 PM
Haha!  Been there, done that, if not quite the same way.  I've barely whittled their health at all.

Finally got the diving bell.  This is more fun than I expected; or maybe expecting to get wasted by sharks just took the pressure off.  I've been nearly ignoring them.  If I get eaten, I respawn in the bell, and everything I've collected is still with me.  After learning how to swim (damn, those controls are finicky) I did much better.  I seldom get killed at all now, after about 4 underwater areas.  Those air-filled barrels also restore some health, and that makes all the difference.  
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I know what you mean about the outfits.  I crafted a shark-hunter outfit, which makes him look like every other rogue out there.  No-hood issue, plus some mission dialog about how I looked wrong was just . . . wrong.  So I felt silly wearing it, and went back to hooded outfits.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: idolminds on Thursday, July 10, 2014, 04:31:54 PM
Finished the story missions. Good times. Still a lot of pirating to do!
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: Cobra951 on Friday, July 11, 2014, 10:46:11 AM
I did it!  I took down a legendary ship, the
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.  Not much dancing around either.  We just traded blows until one of us went down (soon before the other would have).  I've gotten much better with reading when I have to brace.  It's a silly mechanic, preventing damage by bracing.  (I could see it helping with crew-member attrition, but not ship damage.)  So I didn't realize how important it is for defense until more recently.  It also helps that the ship has all the upgrades that matter.  Only the elite fire barrel storage is missing, and I still don't know what good those are unless I'm trying to run away.  (If I wait around for a tough opponent to run into my mines, it's all over but the crying.)  All I got was money, a lot of it.  I was hoping for something for the ship.

I went the other route, idol.  I only have a little over 40% of the story missions done, but over 80% of side missions and 100% of side activities.  I have the most fun in freeform in this big open world.  I dread missions like the one I just suffered through--
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.  They've helped this sort of mission a great deal by adding lots more checkpoints.  But they don't seem to get that these just suck, no matter how much mercy we get on them.

Edit:  One thing I found out recently is that your pistol ammo tops off whenever you fast travel.  This has to be a bug, but a helpful one.  I empty the pistols during every few ship captures, and shops (not harbormasters) are seldom outside of the main areas.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: Cobra951 on Monday, July 14, 2014, 07:02:54 AM
I took down the twin legendaries last night.  It's so much easier with a fully upgraded ship.  But I still can't do much with La Dama Negra (literally "the black lady"--sounds much better in Spanish).  Those crazy mortars are murder, and her armor is ridiculous.

OK, so, aside from the unfortunate tailing-mission overkill, this has turned out to be one of the very top gaming experiences in my long controller-wielding life.  It has become a living world to me, one I want to be in as much as possible.  I even started a new game under another profile so I could reacquire and redevelop the Jackdaw from its humble beginnings.  I'm not done with the story in my first (and still main) game either.  That has become secondary, really.  It's the being-there part, so comprehensively detailed and realized, that matters.

Such detail and realization seemed inconceivable, so I dug a bit into the backstory of the game.  I figured that Ubi had just piled up their collective achievements on the franchise over the last 7 years--and that's true, but it's not all.  It turns out that seven different studios, about 900 people, worked on this game (http://www.gamesradar.com/why-assassins-creed-iv-might-be-biggest-game-world/).  What makes it such a standout, the age-of-sail naval universe, comes from Ubisoft Singapore.  Everyone was so impressed with it in AC3 that they brought it to the forefront in AC4, and even chose the period of the game to best suit the wonders Singapore had wrought.  I think I'm a fanboy of this company now, willing to forgive a few grave sins of the past, like always-online DRM.  What they have done, organized and distilled into a single product is unparalleled.  I mean, there are like 4 separate games here, all seamlessly blended together into one kickass experience.  I do so hope they can keep it up in the future.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: idolminds on Monday, July 14, 2014, 10:44:16 AM
There is a rumor going on now that they are making Assassins Creed Unity for PS4/XBO, but also AC Comet for PS3/360 which is supposed to be a continuation off Black Flag. Possibly Black Flag 2? If they want to do the AC2/Brotherhood/Revelations thing but in the Black Flag setting then I am all for it.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: PyroMenace on Monday, July 14, 2014, 11:41:33 AM
But I still can't do much with La Dama Negra (literally "the black lady"--sounds much better in Spanish).  Those crazy mortars are murder, and her armor is ridiculous.

Go fer the arse capt'n!
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: Xessive on Monday, July 14, 2014, 12:48:04 PM
Yarr, The Black Dame's booty it be!
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: Cobra951 on Monday, July 14, 2014, 07:27:31 PM
There is a rumor going on now that they are making Assassins Creed Unity for PS4/XBO, but also AC Comet for PS3/360 which is supposed to be a continuation off Black Flag. Possibly Black Flag 2? If they want to do the AC2/Brotherhood/Revelations thing but in the Black Flag setting then I am all for it.

If they do, I'm there as well.  No doubt.

The Impoluto is history now too.  The Lady's arse, eh?  Arr, mateys!  Me thanks!

Edit:  Yahaha!  Down to planks!  She got me once, then I got her the next time, with just a sliver of health left, while the screen went a glitchy black & white.  My last barrage was a heavy-shot broadside into her bow, right before she would have rammed me.  Wee!  My heart's still pounding too hard for an old fart.

A new perk unlocked too.  Yowza!

Didn't think this was worth a new post, so I'll add it here.  Curious about some of the rewards, I logged into Uplay, and found I had 320 of their point units (whatever they're called).  So I grabbed the things I wanted, these in particular:

(http://static8.ubi.com/u/Uplay/Games/ACBF/rewards/reward4.jpg)
Love the wheel, sails and especially the skull/harpy figurehead.

(http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/EmqWGMJ6mm4/maxresdefault.jpg)
Arr!  Finally the pirate look.

(http://j4v9eg.bn1304.livefilestore.com/y2pJ2jCnJQFmwnnZ6i_V0m0OGxym6gmdmRi0IwfDKlwHG1n1PG_232Iw2FZ8LoL77TKcdJAOvVunXtnFz05-mdtAOAL_KlAewbrA-y2-T9HICg/AC4%20piratey%20look.jpg?psid=1)

YARR!  Couldn't find a decent image of these together, so I made mine own.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: idolminds on Monday, July 14, 2014, 08:50:19 PM
I still havent taken down any legendary ships. Didnt help that I was out of mortar shot when the last one I attacked would sail away from me to set up a ram, could have been hitting him. Ah well, Im having fun running aroung gathering the collectibles and doing assassinations. I also hacked all the computers and collected all the notes in the modern day side so I have no more reason to leave pirate world! Hooray!
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: Cobra951 on Thursday, July 17, 2014, 02:15:31 AM
Finished the story.  That was rather abrupt.  I expected at least one more sequence, given the plot points left open, plus the last assassination target was hardly the most interesting.  My biggest disappointment is that I don't get Adewale back.  That chick's strident voice is annoying, and a woman does not belong on a pirate ship in the 1700s, much less in the role of quartermaster.

I have absolutely everything except like 3 challenges I'm chasing down.  A 4th, 100% sync, probably ain't gonna happen.  I have no interest in replaying some of those instant-death-rinse-and-repeat missions (with even less leeway, to ace them).  They can keep them.  What makes the game is the sandbox, on land and sea.  Many missions were awesome too; it's just the infuriatingly obtuse ones that bring the linear aspects of the game down.

Two of those challenges are head scratchers.  One is kill an enemy with every type of weapon.  Huh?  I have 8/9 on that.  9 what?  Enemies?  Weapons?  Unique enemies and weapons?  I guess I can look that up, but up till now I've refused to do that.  No outside help at all to get this far (well, except for the tip on La Dama Negra, which came unsolicited).  The other puzzling challenge is disarming an agile guard and killing him with his own weapon.  I've managed to get 1/3 on that, and I don't know when I did it, or how.  So who's agile, the guys who can chase me down and tackle me?

The 3rd doable challenge is winning 2000R in the tavern board games.  That's just a matter of taking the time to do it.  Here's a side activity I mostly ignored.

Anyway, on to a bit more piracy.  I'm chasing a million reales.  I've earned over 1.4 million, but spent nearly 700K.  I want to see it show a mill.  Plus I'm hopelessly addicted to the naval game, so it gives me something to do it for.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: idolminds on Thursday, July 17, 2014, 07:59:26 PM
I just did the 100,000 reales challenge. Had to stop myself from buying my last upgrades until I completed it. But after running down all the assassination missions, naval contracts, and finding all the treasures I managed to get there. And then boom boom boom bought my upgrades because I had lots of money and cargo.

Im still a bit sore about the stuff requiring kenways fleet. I could 100% a couple things but I cant get the last 3 treasure maps without the fleet, and one of those maps has my ships last storage upgrade. And its the fire barrels...like who gives a shit about those? UGH. I also see the "harpoon every sea creature" and Im one short...which Im assuming is the white whale, which I also cant get.

Now I need to sail around and collect all the random chests and animus bits, then try fighting the legendary ships now that I'm upgraded. Also have one more really expensive upgrade to my pirate headquarters, and I need to buy all the other weapons and outfits.

Speaking of weapons, I also have that 8/9 kill with every weapon type. I'm sure its 8/9 weapons but...I dont know what the last one is. I thought I already have killed everyone with everything. Too weird.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: Cobra951 on Friday, July 18, 2014, 08:05:01 AM
I don't blame you for being sore.  This is Ubisoft.  Their mission in life, or at least the mission of some asshole in a power position, is to force online on everything.  They couldn't do it with DRM. so they moved on to more subtle approaches.  I've been thinking about it, and there's no reason why Kenway's Fleet should be online only.  It's a single-player feature, and the real-time aspect of it could easily be handled with your system's internal clock.  It should at least provide a canned set of missions offline, enough to get everything that matters to SP.  Make it so you stop earning money after those canned missions, if cheating (by playing with the internal-clock settings) is a concern.  The forever online component should be an extra perk that kicks in if you have a way to get there, and you choose to use it.  But . . . Ubisoft.  Oh, well.  Like I said before, I'm too fond of this company's output otherwise.  You're not missing anything important.  I couldn't reach 100% upgrades for Edward, I assume because of gear that comes with fancier editions, or that I have to get separately?  Whatever it is, the vendors don't have it (and all my world's icons are yellow, and all treasure maps are used up).

Got to be a millionaire yesterday.  So I celebrated by . . . starting a new game.  Now those Blades of Toledo I got from Uplay make sense.  They're way better than the starting swords, and what little money I have is going into better things.

Edit:  I know I go on and on about this game.  I've been trying to think why it is that it has grabbed me the way games used to grab me 20-30 years ago, back when they were full of new ideas and wonder.  I think it goes beyond the freedom and size of the world.  The setting is near and dear to my heart.  I don't mean the golden age of piracy; I mean the Caribbean--land and sea.  I belong to an island a couple of hundred miles East of the AC4 map.  It's roots, culture and development very much mirror Cuba's (up till Cuba's tragic fall to Communist dictatorship in the early 60s).  They should, and very much could (with Havana assets) give us old San Juan.  That would really make my day. 

Nothing beats island hopping on a boat, or a ship.  I did plenty of that as a kid.  I guess AC4 sort of transports me to a better time and place in my life.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: idolminds on Wednesday, July 23, 2014, 09:55:28 PM
I sorta slowed down after doing all the missions. Now its sailing around to pick up the extra bits. But I'm going to save that just in case this high speed internet thing works out in the next couple weeks. If so, then I can sail around for things and hopefully make use of the community stuff at the same time.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: Cobra951 on Friday, July 25, 2014, 04:19:27 AM


Maybe I should have posted this in Pugnate's group-hug thread.   :)


Edit:  In regards to this virtual world at least, this man is my new hero (http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/SebastienLambottin/20140718/220979/The_prototype_methodology_weve_used_for_the_naval_of_Assassins_creed_4.php).
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: Cobra951 on Monday, August 04, 2014, 11:16:07 PM
The schedule for the final (!) round of community events (http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/902053-ACIV-BF-Community-Events-Schedule) is stickied on Ubi's AC forum.  Whoever wants these items I guess needs to play now or forever hold their peace.  Quite a crock, really.  The game has been out for less than a year, and they're already pulling out of the only method to unlock shit you already have on the game disc.

The good news is that they've made it super-easy.  All you have to do is perform the activity once, and the related item unlocks.  There's still time to get everything, as the schedule repeats once.  After that, I guess any newer chances depend on how much of a shitstorm develops over this.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: PyroMenace on Tuesday, August 05, 2014, 01:30:45 AM
So after this those items can never be obtained again? No buy method or anything?
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: Cobra951 on Tuesday, August 05, 2014, 02:16:37 AM
According to that thread I linked, apparently not.  The reason given is that the way these items are implemented means they must be earned in-game.  They can't be bought like DLC, or unlocked externally somehow.  I suppose a patch could take care of it, but what are the chances of that?  It just highlights the bullshit of locking game content behind connected activities.  What you can get is limited by how nice the mothership is willing to be, and for how much time.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: idolminds on Tuesday, August 05, 2014, 09:51:18 AM
Well, I'm screwed. Thanks, Ubisoft.

Probably has to do with them announcing AC Rogue for PS3/360. Looks like its the "sequel" to Black Flag. All I know is it has ship battles so...we'll see.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: Cobra951 on Tuesday, August 05, 2014, 01:07:28 PM
Yep.  We will see.



Edit:  Official reveal thread. (http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/908314-Allegiances-change-and-revenge-rules-in-Ubisoft%C2%AE%E2%80%99s-Assassin%E2%80%99s-Creed%C2%AE-Rogue)  Hmm, 360 and PS3 only.  That's fine for me, but I hope you guys get a PC version eventually . . . unless it sucks.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: Xessive on Tuesday, August 05, 2014, 01:53:30 PM
You'll rue the day you crossed me, you rrrogue! (Connery)

I'm curious about the story and how it fills the gap between Black Flag and AC3, but also considering the timeline it looks like it will also be a some overlap and possibly set-up for the events of AC Unity.

I'd hope to see a PC version. I almost expect they'll release one eventually like they did with AC Liberation.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: Cobra951 on Tuesday, August 05, 2014, 11:23:56 PM
What is that quote from, LXG?  I googled, and get bombarded with a Trebek variant.  Even when I specify "-Trebek" I still get a ton of hits with Trebek misspelled.  I assume that's the satirical encore, not the original, right?  Or is it?

Anyway, I'm really hoping this turns out to be good, but I'm concerned that it will be a rushed minor release to catch the tail end of the last gen.  It seems so unlikely that they would restrict it to the waning 360 and PS3 if it were a major title in the series.  It also seems unlikely that a major sequel/prequel would hit this soon after AC4, and basically in the same time frame as Unity.  I know Ubi has multiple studios working in parallel, so it's possible.  I hope so.

Edit:  Ah, hell. (http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2014/32/1407255527-icesheet-breaking-sunset-watermark-grey.jpg)  Who am I kidding?  I know I'll be picking this up even if it's flawed.

Edit 2:
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: Xessive on Wednesday, August 06, 2014, 07:55:22 AM
Haha I think my mind amalgamated real Connery with Darrell Hammond's Connery in SNL's Celebrity Jeopardy :P

"Rough? That's the sound your mother made last night just the way your mother likes it, Trebek!" ;D haha
[I screwed up the quote :P]

I'd consider getting it for PS3 except that I know that on PS3 for some odd reason Ubi decided to swap the trigger/shoulder buttons and I have a lot of difficulty playing the AC games on PS3 because of that swap and they don't allow me to customize the controls. On PS4 however they controls are in line with the PC and Xbox, with the triggers behaving as they should.

Apparently the reason for the swap seems to be that the PS3 trigger are convex so people don't like to use them so most games will set default controls to them e.g. If "Shoot" on the X360 is RT on the PS3 it will default to R1 (equivalent of RB) instead of R2 (equivalent of RT).

I'd rather wait and see if a PC version comes around. If not I'll probably have to skip it. Controls are way too critical an issue for me to enjoy a game.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: Cobra951 on Wednesday, August 06, 2014, 09:40:43 PM
Ahaha!  I was going crazy trying to get Google to get past the Trebek stuff.  I didn't even know about it.  I ended up reading a bunch of unflattering stuff about Sean "slap-happy" Connery.

I'd be shocked if this game doesn't end up getting released on other systems.  Ubi's AnvilNext engine is set up to make multiplats quite viable.

Idol, I now have both weapons from the community events, and you're not missing anything of substance.  Both the pistols and the scimitars are considerably worse than the stuff you earn while completely offline.  They're just cosmetic fluff.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: idolminds on Thursday, August 07, 2014, 06:39:01 PM
Yeah I figured as much. Just kind of sucks that I wont be able to get the achievements and such. Not that they matter but...I played the shit out of the game and they'd otherwise be something I could easily get, you know?

At least I know not to get the next game at full price if this is the kind of thing they'll be doing.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: gpw11 on Monday, December 15, 2014, 06:42:32 PM
Holy shit, this game.

I bought a boxed copy a couple of weeks ago for $9.99 shipped because you talked about it so highly.  I put it in last week, played a couple of hours liked what I played in that Assasin's Creed sort of way, and then just didn't go back.  Last Saturday I was taking it easy at home, decided to drink a beer or two and play some video games. Started it up again, and god damn!  All of a sudden it's like 5 hours later, I'm having the time of my life and I'm 12 beers deep.  I actually had to stop because I was no longer coordinated enough to play to an adequate level.....but I didn't want to.

I can't think of any other time where I've played a game and my jaw dropped more than once, but there is just so much that's amazingly fun about this game.  Sailing through a hurricane?  Jaw dropping shit eating grin on my face. My first epic sea battle?  Yeah, jaw dropped and then shit eating grin.  Fucking using that contraption to quick mount my mass and then leaping over to their ship and into the midst of battle?  God damn, yes my jaw dropped and a shit eating grin spread across my face. 

Not to mention all the other stuff that's just plain cool - harpooning marine life, exploring tropical islands, searching for treasure, etc etc.  I'm incredibly impressed.  Hell, I even tried the second screen app out and it's even fucking cool. 

The only complaint I have with this at all is that I don't know if my character is actually an Assassin or not.   I mean, I don't really care, but it would make more sense if I was like inducted to the order or something, or just masquerading as one.  Accepting assassination contracts just feels out of place at this point in the story.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: Cobra951 on Monday, December 15, 2014, 11:27:17 PM
Telling you how he fits into the creed would be a spoiler at this point, so I won't.  It is so exciting and liberating, isn't it?  It's the biggest reason Unity feels fenced in despite its huge setting, after having the Caribbean to sail free.  Oh, man, I wish I could drink like that at my age.  It would just kill me.  I've had a bit of rum & OJ tonight, but any more, and I'll be a wreck tomorrow.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: MysterD on Tuesday, December 16, 2014, 05:35:52 PM
Holy shit, this game.

I bought a boxed copy a couple of weeks ago for $9.99 shipped because you talked about it so highly.
Which platform you playing this on?

Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: gpw11 on Tuesday, December 16, 2014, 10:30:17 PM
Telling you how he fits into the creed would be a spoiler at this point, so I won't.  It is so exciting and liberating, isn't it?  It's the biggest reason Unity feels fenced in despite its huge setting, after having the Caribbean to sail free.  Oh, man, I wish I could drink like that at my age.  It would just kill me.  I've had a bit of rum & OJ tonight, but any more, and I'll be a wreck tomorrow.

No spoilers!

Exciting and liberating are exactly the perfect terms to describe the feeling.  I don't know when else I felt this way playing a game.  GTA5 was great but didn't have the same kind of impact for me. 

I've always liked the AC games but had a hard time playing them.  I finished the first, got maybe 50% through the second and then just couldn't stomach the other games in the Ezio trilogy.  I tried playing AC3, but the performance was terrible on my PC and the formula felt stale.  This is something else though and really shows how they can take advantage of different timelines to really give the games completely different feels and open them up (although they don't really...so far).  I don't know what else they could do that would really change the nature of the game as much as the pirate aspect, but I didn't really think this setting would have as big of an impact as it did either. 

It's sort of sad to hear that Unity closed everything up again, but I can understand why to a point - it probably started development before Black Flag did even. Plus, the environment doesn't really lend itself to anything beyond classic AC gameplay.  I'm really happy to see that you can rate missions here and can only hope that has an impact on the future games, as does Black Flag's critical success (it seems like this was just something they stumbled upon while reading the reactions to AC3). 

Which platform you playing this on?



PS3.  Kind of funny, but this game would have sold me on a PS4 if I knew how good it was before hand.  I'd love to play it with the smoother frame rate in towns and extra graphical effects. 


Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: gpw11 on Wednesday, December 24, 2014, 07:39:28 PM
And I have to stop playing this.  Not because it's bad but rather the complete opposite - I lose so much time,  "I'll just do one more mission" "Oh, a whaling spot!", "Well, fuck this fort is right here" "Better take this navel contract because I'll probably not be back here"

Aaaand it's six hours later.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: MysterD on Sunday, January 04, 2015, 04:19:43 PM
After a little over 46 hours, Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag PC's Single Player Campaign is now in the books.
Fantastic game - and IMHO, the best AC game since probably the double-threat of AC2 + AC: Brotherhood.

EDIT:
Not because it's bad but rather the complete opposite - I lose so much time,  "I'll just do one more mission" "Oh, a whaling spot!", "Well, fuck this fort is right here" "Better take this navel contract because I'll probably not be back here"

Aaaand it's six hours later.
Oh, man - I know that feeling. There's so much to do - there's the side-quests; areas to explore; things of time; and just free-roaming the game-world there's tons of ships just roaming to board/take/sink.
This game's just crack.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Post by: MysterD on Wednesday, September 04, 2019, 08:11:27 PM
AC4: Black Flag & AC: Rogue are headed to the Switch:
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2019-09-04-assassins-creed-black-flag-and-rogue-headed-to-nintendo-switch