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Title: Mass Effect: Andromeda -> Update: Patch 1.10 to be final SP patch
Post by: MysterD on Tuesday, March 07, 2017, 07:50:48 PM
GameSpot - Info on ME: Andromeda's "Strike Team" Content. (http://www.gamespot.com/articles/mass-effect-andromeda-how-to-skip-multiplayer-miss/1100-6448500/)

You can get rewards, experience, and other stuff from doing Strike Team events (i.e. evens where you can send AI to do certain missions for you).
Apex Missions are Mutliplayer events that can be failed and retried.
Strike Team Missions are Single-Player events only cannot be retried.
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: MysterD on Tuesday, March 07, 2017, 07:51:03 PM
[Place-holder, in case necessary...]
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: MysterD on Wednesday, March 08, 2017, 08:20:31 PM
NVidia GeForce - Mass Effect: Andromeda (PC version) - System Requirements/Recommendations, Graphics Settings Revealed & 4K Screens. (http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/mass-effect-andromeda-pc-graphics-settings-4k-screenshots)
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: MysterD on Thursday, March 09, 2017, 06:44:29 PM
Well, look at this....

VGA 247 - ME: Andromeda PC version is aiming for 30FPS at 720p at Low settings for Minimum specs + 1080p at High for Recommended Specs. (https://www.vg247.com/2017/03/09/mass-effect-andromedas-pc-recommended-specs-are-designed-for-1080p30fps-on-high-settings/)

VG247 is using This Support Page from ME: Andromeda as their source on this information. (https://help.ea.com/en/help/mass-effect/mass-effect-andromeda/are-you-ready-for-mass-effect-andromeda/?sf53085265=1#pc)

I really hope we can be able to unlock the framerate from 30FPS, if we so choose to.

While I have no problem w/ optional in-game locks at different framerates (which I think should be supported in-game - Dishonored 2 + GR WIldlands Open Beta supported it; this can be good for when system's get too powerful and performance can go to the moon), it's just that - it should be optional, not forced.

I'd certainly be fine w/ dropping some settings to Medium + unlocking the cap from 30FPS just to get some more frames and better performance; especially in a game that's likely going to have some heavy shooting elements.
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: Cobra951 on Friday, March 10, 2017, 06:26:35 AM
I don't think they're limiting you on fps, D.  They're just telling you what the spec requirements are targeting.  If you have a powerhouse of a PC (hey, the 1080ti is out), or if you're willing to sacrifice some frame-rendering quality, I doubt you'll need to go below 60 fps.

[Snipped some serious shit, to be posted elsewhere.]
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: MysterD on Friday, March 10, 2017, 04:21:35 PM
I don't think they're limiting you on fps, D.  They're just telling you what the spec requirements are targeting.  If you have a powerhouse of a PC (hey, the 1080ti is out), or if you're willing to sacrifice some frame-rendering quality, I doubt you'll need to go below 60 fps.

[Snipped some serious shit, to be posted elsewhere.]

I put nothing past any dev's doing PC versions of games, these days + age. We've had upon release PC versions of Batman: AK + Mafia 3 capped to 30FPS period. A patch was later released to remove the cap, if the player wanted.
We'll have to wait + see, if EA's being super-safe on the performance there or lying their butt off.

Given that ME:A is on (likely the newest version of) Frostbite Engine and BF1 also uses that, we'll have to see what happens. I do wonder if ME:A's areas/maps will be bigger than the huge MP maps BF1 has going on, so it'll be interesting to see how performance fends. I was doing around 40-50FPS at High on 1440p on BF1, so....we'll have to wait and see.

EDIT:
About the 1080 Ti, about time there's a true 4K 60FPS video-card (besides the Titan X Pascal). If only it wasn't $700 MSRP, though. :P
Eurogamer on 1080 Ti - http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-review?utm_source=eurogamer&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=net-daily
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: MysterD on Wednesday, March 15, 2017, 02:50:38 PM
RockPaperShotgun - Early impressions of ME:A. (https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2017/03/14/mass-effect-andromeda-review-opening-hours/)

Quote
I’m at a loss. What I expect from BioWare is slightly dodgy combat, but splendid writing and characters. What I’ve seen so far is some decent enough combat (but nothing beyond what you’d expect in a third person shooter), and some of the most dreadful writing. I cannot emphasise enough how poor it’s been.
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: MysterD on Wednesday, March 15, 2017, 03:39:26 PM
PC Gamer - Testing out ME:A's Character Creator. (http://www.pcgamer.com/testing-out-the-mass-effect-andromeda-character-creator/)
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: MysterD on Wednesday, March 15, 2017, 06:49:20 PM
PC Gamer - 5 different reviewers have mixed feelings about Mass Effect: Andromeda's early hours. (http://www.pcgamer.com/we-have-mixed-feelings-about-the-first-few-hours-of-mass-effect-andromeda/)
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: ender on Thursday, March 16, 2017, 12:28:09 PM
I watched the first 45 minutes on Gamespot. I was kind of dreading playing the game after seeing it. This might be a symptom of being very immersed in Zelda: The Breath of the Wild right now and relishing the polished mechanics and balance of freedom and directness of Zelda, and then looking at Mass Effect: Andromeda and feeling that is it is massively bloated and convoluted. I feel like a lot of these massive open-world titles are becoming far too self-important and taking on far too much. But I can't say it surprises me, apart from Dragon Age, I feel like a lot of BioWare games have some of the worst game mechanics there are. Maybe only Elder Scrolls has them beat in that area (which they more than make up for in a sense of exploration and wonderment.) I wish more games took the mechanics of gameplay more serious – instead of trying to compete with the story telling and grandeur of Hollywood and HBO series.
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: MysterD on Thursday, March 16, 2017, 03:13:08 PM
Wow...just wow...

https://mobile.twitter.com/The_Extrange/status/842113511178305538/video/1

https://webmshare.com/Dm0Nz

Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: MysterD on Thursday, March 16, 2017, 03:56:06 PM
*** SPOILERS for Mass Effect 1+2+3 are in the link below ***
Eurogamer - Mass Effect: The Story So Far. (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-03-14-mass-effect-the-story-so-far?utm_source=eurogamer&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=net-daily)
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: MysterD on Thursday, March 16, 2017, 04:07:42 PM
GameSpot - How the ME:A Multiplayer + Single Player Content Tie Into Each Other. (http://www.gamespot.com/articles/mass-effect-andromeda-dev-explains-how-multiplayer/1100-6448687/)

MP Component is NOT forced to be played to get the best ending, this time around (unlike Mass Effect 3).
The MP+SP Strike Team Missions are Seamless, found within the game-world - if you playing the Campaign.
Or you can access MP from Main Menu, if you want to go right the MP out-right.
Apex Missions are tougher missions, so you will need to be leveled-up to the right amount to finish these properly.
You can and get rewards for each portion (for the SP+MP), based on what missions you do + how much you succeed.
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: MysterD on Thursday, March 16, 2017, 06:52:44 PM
PC Gamer - The Internet Is Brutally Mocking Mass Effect: Andromeda's Animations. (http://www.pcgamer.com/the-internet-is-brutally-mocking-mass-effect-andromedas-animations/)
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: MysterD on Thursday, March 16, 2017, 07:26:22 PM
RockPaperShotgun - Alec Meer on "Mass Effect: Andromeda - 14 Mixed Observations Of The Opening Hours." (https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2017/03/16/mass-effect-andromeda-problems/)
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: ender on Thursday, March 16, 2017, 08:38:07 PM
OMG. Why all the awkward pauses in the dialog animations? Also, the terrible writing is so much more obvious with the horrible timing of these conversations. Is this just a parody? Are we being played? AGHHH!
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: MysterD on Friday, March 17, 2017, 04:56:09 PM
GameRant - ME:A Producer responds to the Animation Criticism. (https://gamerant.com/mass-effect-andromeda-animation-criticism-response/)
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: MysterD on Friday, March 17, 2017, 04:56:48 PM
Pretty Good Gaming (on Youtube)  - Their impressions on ME:A. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbhBWKvsqxI)
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: Pugnate on Saturday, March 18, 2017, 01:35:18 AM
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: Pugnate on Saturday, March 18, 2017, 01:35:30 AM
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: MysterD on Saturday, March 18, 2017, 03:13:49 PM
GameRant - Mass Effect: Andromeda lacks a quick-save feature currently. (https://gamerant.com/mass-effect-andromeda-quick-save-feature/)

- ME:A does NOT have Quick-save feature (unlike previous ME games).
- ME:A won't have Quick-Save feature added in a Day One Patch.
- ME:A might later add a Quick-save feature in a patch.
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: Quemaqua on Saturday, March 18, 2017, 04:44:11 PM
Watched the Quick Look on Giant Bomb, shit just looks janky and lacking polish. The game might not be bad in the end, but something about it just looks wrong all the time.
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: Pugnate on Saturday, March 18, 2017, 09:05:22 PM
Apparently this isn't even Bioware but a new branch of Bioware while the regular team works on something else. Smells like EA.
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: PyroMenace on Saturday, March 18, 2017, 09:36:50 PM
Yea, it certainly doesn't feel like the game was given enough attention to which is insane to me because this is a Mass Effect game.
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: MysterD on Monday, March 20, 2017, 03:58:54 AM
Let's also keep in mind, BioWare Edmonton (i.e. the main BioWare Studio that gave us so many RPG classics - BG1; BG2; ME1+2+3; Jade Empire; DAO; DAI) and decent RPG's (NWN1 + NWN1: Hordes) is NOT developing this.
BioWare Montreal is developing this game.

Also, reviews are coming in...and they are ALL over the damn place.
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: MysterD on Monday, March 20, 2017, 05:48:27 PM
Mass Effect: Andromeda - REVIEWS:

METACRITIC:
PC. (http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/mass-effect-andromeda) / PlayStation 4. (http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/mass-effect-andromeda/critic-reviews) / XBox One. (http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-one/mass-effect-andromeda/critic-reviews)


Scored out of 100:
PC Gamer - 80. (http://www.pcgamer.com/mass-effect-andromeda-review/)
Gaming Trend - 80 (http://gamingtrend.com/reviews/fainter-stars-mass-effect-andromeda-review/)
RPG Fan - 78 (http://www.rpgfan.com/reviews/Mass_Effect_Andromeda/index.html)
Venture Beat - 55 (http://venturebeat.com/2017/03/20/mass-effect-andromeda-review/)

Scored out of 10:
God is a Geek - 8.5 (http://www.godisageek.com/reviews/mass-effect-andromeda-review/)
Forbes - 8.5 (https://www.forbes.com/sites/games/2017/03/20/mass-effect-andromeda-review-ps4-every-mans-sky/#5c512ac39f0d)
Digital Chumps - 8. (http://digitalchumps.com/mass-effect-andromeda/)
IGN - 7.7 (http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/03/20/mass-effect-andromeda-review)
Polygon - 7.5 (http://www.polygon.com/2017/3/20/14886618/mass-effect-andromeda-review-PS4-Xbox-One-PC)
CGM - 7 (http://www.cgmagonline.com/reviews/mass-effect-andromeda-review-like-expansion/)
Destructoid - 6.5 (https://www.destructoid.com/review-mass-effect-andromeda-424694.phtml)
GameSpot - 6 (http://www.gamespot.com/reviews/mass-effect-andromeda-review/1900-6416638/)
Metro UK - 6 (http://metro.co.uk/2017/03/20/mass-effect-andromeda-review-galaxy-of-issues-6520722/)

Scored out of 5:
GameRant - 4. (https://gamerant.com/mass-effect-andromeda-review/)
Yahoo -  3 1/2 stars. (https://www.yahoo.com/tech/mass-effect-andromeda-222142612.html?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma)
GamesRadar - 3 1/2 stars. (http://www.gamesradar.com/mass-effect-andromeda-review/)
Hardcore Gamer - 3.5 (http://www.hardcoregamer.com/2017/03/20/review-mass-effect-andromeda/251032/)
Game Revolution - 3.5 (http://www.gamerevolution.com/review/mass-effect-andromeda)
US Gamer - 3. (http://www.usgamer.net/articles/mass-effect-andromeda-review)

Grading System ( F < D < C < B < A )
Gaming Age - B. (http://www.gaming-age.com/2017/03/mass-effect-andromeda-review-ps4-xbox-one-pc/)

No score:
Eurogamer. (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-03-19-mass-effect-andromeda)
Kotaku (http://kotaku.com/mass-effect-andromeda-the-kotaku-review-1793496930)
RockPaperShotgun - John Walker with a "Wot I Think" on ME:A. (https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2017/03/20/mass-effect-andromeda-review/)
GiantBomb - 1 hr 35 min "Quicklook" video on ME:A. (http://www.giantbomb.com/videos/quick-look-mass-effect-andromeda/2300-11936/)

Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: Pugnate on Tuesday, March 21, 2017, 01:34:03 AM
The Gamespot review was the oddest thing. If you watch it, it is mostly positive and it looks like the reviewer will give a 7 - 7.5 and then it ends with a 6.
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: Xessive on Tuesday, March 21, 2017, 05:30:10 AM
It's all over the place.

The Gamespot review was particularly polarizing because the score doesn't match with the reviewer's comments.

The main negatives seem to boil down to:
1. Bugs, bugs, bugs
2. Strange animations
3. Boring, long-winded start to the adventure
4. Uninteresting party members
5. Inconsistent plot that scatters the story all over the place

I'm betting it's an undoubtedly good game but not a great one.
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: Xessive on Tuesday, March 21, 2017, 10:08:12 AM
I've just spent my first couple of hours with the game.

I have to say, despite the negative press, I'm generally impressed. It's basically more Mass Effect.

I haven't run into any janky animations or anything. All was well until I met one particular character: Addison. That's the one we've been hearing about and seeing in all the videos; the one who actually says "Sorry, my face is tired from dealing with everything."

Man, this one character is a mess. Her face is emotionless, her line delivery is atrocious (in fact the lines themselves are poorly written), the model looks low-poly compared to others, and to top it off she doesn't know how to wear make-up, looking more like a child had fun with mom's make-up kit on a mannequin.

"No one's a pathfinder until they've 'pathfound' something."

Who the fuck came up with that line?! I'm not even going to argue flawed syntax.. But God damn it, pathfinders find paths! It's in the damn name!!
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: Cobra951 on Tuesday, March 21, 2017, 12:40:02 PM
Geez.  A pathfinder get things pathfound?  Sounds like a bad double translation.

The ugliness of female characters is probably political.

After the troubling revelations, I guess I won't feel so bad skipping this game entirely.
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: MysterD on Tuesday, March 21, 2017, 03:26:00 PM
It's all over the place.

The Gamespot review was particularly polarizing because the score doesn't match with the reviewer's comments.

The main negatives seem to boil down to:
1. Bugs, bugs, bugs
2. Strange animations
3. Boring, long-winded start to the adventure
4. Uninteresting party members
5. Inconsistent plot that scatters the story all over the place

I'm betting it's an undoubtedly good game but not a great one.

Yep, Cobra - that's my bet and hope now: it's good, but not great.

But, I still can't help but be disappointed here b/c one of my main reason to play any BioWare-branded game is dealing w/ interesting characters w/ great personal stories, writing, + dialogue. In most instances, that stuff often made-up for the janky combat and/or not-so-spectacular main stories that often come w/ BioWare's games. Even DA2 didn't let me down, with its cast of characters.

Somehow, I think this time around with ME:A that PC Gamer might have the most realistic + fair review here.
And it sounds like this ME:A review is also the one they probably should've given to DA2, also.
I still think DA2 is underrated as hell, since every piled on it and said ti was terrible - yet, it was far from that, IMHO. I just think DA2 ain't the masterpiece that both DAO + DAI were.
I'd guess ME:A is not the greatness that ME1; ME2 (especially ME2); and also ME3 are.
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: MysterD on Tuesday, March 21, 2017, 03:28:59 PM
Forbes - Erik Kain on that he thinks ME:A is Suffering from "Open-World Syndrome". (https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2017/03/20/mass-effect-andromeda-and-the-diminishing-returns-of-huge-expensive-open-worlds/#441403801279)
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: MysterD on Tuesday, March 21, 2017, 04:31:44 PM
PC Gamer - PC Port Analysis on ME:A. (http://www.pcgamer.com/mass-effect-andromeda-pc-performance-analysis/)
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: Quemaqua on Tuesday, March 21, 2017, 04:40:04 PM
The animations on the whole aren't really that bad. Slightly unnatural, but not a huge deal. The big problem is that the facial animation is really bad, and the humans just look fucking terrible, like they stepped out of a game from 6 years ago. All the video I've seen just looks really bad in that regard. Otherwise the game looks pretty okay. If I didn't still have to play, uh ... basically all the Mass Effect games, I'd be interested.
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: PyroMenace on Tuesday, March 21, 2017, 06:34:29 PM
This honestly looks like the Dragon Age 2 of Mass Effect. Like a watered down Mass Effect game. Pretty depressing.
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: MysterD on Tuesday, March 21, 2017, 07:50:45 PM
Polygon -- Mass Effect: Andromeda - 11 Things You Should Know. (https://www.polygon.com/mass-effect-andromeda-guide-walkthrough/2017/3/21/15010066/11-things-you-should-know-first-hours-buggy-skills-dialogue-crew-planets-side-missions)
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: gpw11 on Tuesday, March 21, 2017, 11:45:45 PM
I haven't gotten far into it (2 hours) but I've been relieved playing it a bit.  I mean, obviously there's still a ton that can go wrong but I've been loving playing a ME game again and the quirks that I've run across so far haven't been too off-putting.

Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: Cools! on Wednesday, March 22, 2017, 10:56:43 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/M6MNloc.png)
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: MysterD on Wednesday, March 22, 2017, 03:02:22 PM
VG 247 - BioWare is looking at patching "lots of issues" + wants to "strongly support the game." (https://www.vg247.com/2017/03/22/mass-effect-andromeda-bioware-looking-at-patching-lots-of-issues-wants-to-strongly-support-the-game/)
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: MysterD on Thursday, March 23, 2017, 04:49:51 PM
Eurogamer - How To Actually Enjoy Mass Effect: Andromeda. (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-03-21-how-to-actually-enjoy-mass-effect-andromeda)
Eurogamer (on Youtube) - Video on "8 Tips To Actually Enjoy Mass Effect: Andromeda". (https://youtu.be/lA-42VtSz8o)

GamesRadar (on Youtube) - "12 hidden mechanics Mass Effect Andromeda never tells you about". (https://youtu.be/VC0xWSSSGmM)

GameInformer - GI makes suggestions of "5 Small Changes With Big Benefits" for ME:A. (http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2017/03/22/mass-effect-andromeda-160-five-small-changes-with-big-benefits.aspx)

Polygon - Former ME2 Animator speaks out on ME:A Animation + Visuals Debacle. (http://www.polygon.com/2017/3/23/15039926/mass-effect-andromeda-animation-what-happened-former-animator-speaks-out)

Kotaku - Players are creating Nightmare Characters. (http://kotaku.com/mass-effect-andromeda-players-are-creating-nightmare-c-1793563995)


Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: gpw11 on Thursday, March 23, 2017, 07:22:14 PM
Sooooooo I don't know if I'm fucking missing something here or what but I'm loving the game.   Like, to the point where I actually don't GET why it got such mixed reviews and seems to have a fan backlash against it (well, I get that last part - those people haven't actually played the game, and those that did and still didn't like it wanted Mass Effect 2 all over again).

It's like Mass Effect 1 but with the best combat of the series and a bit more depth to the various systems.   It doesn't have the streamlined and focused plot direction of ME2 or 3, both that's totally fine.  The new exploration mechanics, maneuverability, platforming, etc are all great.   

I do get what people are saying about there being too many side quests and a lot of them being somewhat repetitive, but that's like almost every RPG in the last five years for me. Hell, I started having a lot more fun in The Witcher 3 once I stopped being a completionist about it.

I don't know, maybe I'm out of touch but the way this was received seems really weird to me.

Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: Xessive on Thursday, March 23, 2017, 11:29:18 PM
I have to admit, I'm really enjoying it as well.
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: MysterD on Friday, March 24, 2017, 04:04:29 AM
@GPW + @Xessive

So, in your opinions - how's the story? Voice-acting? And Dialogue?
A lot has been said from reviews about how "Meh" that stuff is, so....yeah, I'm curious.
And especially since BioWare Montreal developed this, not the BioWare Edmonton main-studio known for their great dialogue, writing, voice-acting, and storytelling.
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: Cobra951 on Friday, March 24, 2017, 07:39:16 AM
Sooooooo I don't know if I'm fucking missing something here or what but I'm loving the game.   Like, to the point where I actually don't GET why it got such mixed reviews and seems to have a fan backlash against it (well, I get that last part - those people haven't actually played the game, and those that did and still didn't like it wanted Mass Effect 2 all over again).

. . .

I don't know, maybe I'm out of touch but the way this was received seems really weird to me.

As I understand it, the most objective way to put it is that it's good, but not memorable like the trilogy preceding it.  There are bugs, animation and dialogue issues, some of which Bioware claims to be addressing.  A fine, if flawed game.  I like the footage I've watched.

But the hate is pure politics.  Neither side has been doing themselves any favors on that score.  Big online brawl.
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: MysterD on Friday, March 24, 2017, 02:43:38 PM
Sounds like this really could be Dragon Age 2 all over again - where the game gets crapped-on b/c it ain't a masterpiece, yet it might just be a decent game despite its laundry list of flaws.

For once, maybe PCG did have the right review for a BioWare title, this time around? ;)

Side note: PCG gave 80% score (out of 100%) for ME:A PC version; they WAY over-scored DA2 PC at 94%.
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: Quemaqua on Friday, March 24, 2017, 03:37:00 PM
DA2 was actually bad, though. At least from what I saw of it.
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: MysterD on Friday, March 24, 2017, 04:02:59 PM
DA2 was actually bad, though. At least from what I saw of it.

About DA2:
I actually liked DA2's action-y part for its combat + especially the look of the combat;  but didn't care that they stripped out most of the strategy elements & zoomed-out overhead tactical camera that were in DAO. Didn't like the over-usage of recycled environments + didn't like the lack of upgrading depth to your party members. I also loved the Three Act set-up, despite not being entirely executed perfectly. Having, more or less, 3 short stories of their own that were around 10-20 hours each was really cool.

I also loved a lot of the characters in this game, as well - i.e. Merrill, Fenris, Varric, Aveline, and Isabella. Also really liked the set-up of over the spans of years, numerous issues + things pop up w/ Hawke's family (often as side-quests, BTW), making those parts of the story feel really personal.

I liked that DA2 game, even despite the laundry list of flaws.

About ME:A:
I just have this feeling that like DA2, ME:A is going to be quite flawed, but still could be good - b/c it sounds like it has a few steps forward in some ways, but also takes some steps back in other ways (just like DA2). And b/c it really isn't a BioWare Edmonton masterpiece (especially in the story + character stuff, which I often think is one of the most important things for ANY BioWare-branded game), it's possible people could be over-reacting - like what happened w/ DA2.
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: gpw11 on Friday, March 24, 2017, 05:58:58 PM
@GPW + @Xessive

So, in your opinions - how's the story? Voice-acting? And Dialogue?
A lot has been said from reviews about how "Meh" that stuff is, so....yeah, I'm curious.
And especially since BioWare Montreal developed this, not the BioWare Edmonton main-studio known for their great dialogue, writing, voice-acting, and storytelling.

Voice acting and dialogue has been serviceable. Like there's a wide range - most of it is fine, some of it is good, and thee are a few spots where the dialogue and/or voice acting doesn't make the cut (there's a reason you keep seeing the same examples brought up). To be honest, I think the original series was like this as well, although maybe not to the same extent.  I was JUST playing ME 2 and the difference in quality in these areas isn't THAT noticeable.  The worst of what's here is probably worse than in the original series (probably) but, on average, it's pretty close.

The story I'll have to comment on later, when I'm further into the game, but I really do think that people are looking at the original trilogy with rose-tinted glasses in this aspect.  MASSIVE SPOILERS FOR ALL THREE ORIGINAL TRILOGY GAMES BELOW:

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The original trilogy was def one of my all time favorite series. Gameplay was fun, characters and world interesting, music and graphics just awesome, environment very entertaining but I think people really have to reach to think the storytelling was some kind of masterpiece.  From game to game it was bungled.  The character development was good, but YOUR character never developed at all.  So it kind of surprises me when people are like "it doesn't touch the story telling from the first series" because the first series had some excellent ASPECTS of storytelling, but overall they kind of dropped the ball from game to game.

Like I said, I can comment back on this later, but so far the story development has been just as fine as the first game.  The world, however, is old now.  You know all the technology and lore, you know the important races, etc, so it's definitely less compelling in that way.  They did have an opportunity with new races in a new universe and they haven't done so well with that yet, but I'll wait to see where it goes.

Fuck, the combat and exploring is so fun that, at this point at least, I don't really even need a reason to be doing it.

Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: MysterD on Friday, March 24, 2017, 08:08:43 PM
PC Gamer - How Mass Effect: Andromeda builds on the series' legacy. (http://www.pcgamer.com/how-mass-effect-andromeda-builds-on-the-series-legacy/)
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: Xessive on Friday, March 24, 2017, 11:25:04 PM
GPW summed it up quite well. It's a generally good experience despite some minor frustrations.

I can understand complaints about monotony, some parts will get repetitive and fetch quests are never fun.

After spending nearly 40 hours with the game, I can say that the animations are actually pretty damn impressive. Ryder's movements are natural and the way the player model reacts to the terrain feels more realistic. It's a not a generic "run" animation that moves identically across all terrain. I feel like the player model places its feet more cautiously. Even when turning, it's not just a player model rotation, there's so much more going on that makes it look and feel more natural than previous Mass Effect games. I can almost feel the weight of the character moving around in the game world. I'm confident in saying that the animations are actually amazing and far more sophisticated than anything we've ever seen in a game before.

Now, as for the implementation of these animations, this is where things get fuzzy and I can understand why people blame the animators. Some sequences and actions seem to be done in strange ways where the animation is not aligned correctly, such as the punch that never actually makes contact. That's not so much an animation issue as much as it is a designer's neglect.
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: Pugnate on Saturday, March 25, 2017, 12:16:34 PM
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/ex-mass-effect-animator-explains-andromedas-issues/1100-6448944/
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: Pugnate on Saturday, March 25, 2017, 12:17:37 PM
The voice acting for the male Ryder is far too stoic for my liking. I restarted as the female Ryder and the experience is infinitely better. Also, the animation is not that bad. I've gotten used to the glitches etc.
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: gpw11 on Saturday, March 25, 2017, 01:27:31 PM
Sooooo.....you've started three times now?
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: Pugnate on Saturday, March 25, 2017, 08:52:01 PM
Twice. I have to be more thorough since I will review it.
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: gpw11 on Sunday, March 26, 2017, 05:39:00 PM
Fair enough.


Also, I'm at like 30 hours in and kinda getting bored. ha
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: Pugnate on Monday, March 27, 2017, 01:57:30 AM
No, don't say that. I wish I had had more time to play it.
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: MysterD on Monday, March 27, 2017, 07:22:47 PM
Total Biscuit on Youtube with Mass Effect: Andromeda PC:
Single Player - Approx. 1h 54m video. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lptcmV6k_u4)
Multiplayer - Approx. 38m video. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOvg--BNXyQ)
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: Cools! on Thursday, March 30, 2017, 02:38:14 PM
Mess Effect (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDjci1ODoBs) :D
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: Pugnate on Saturday, April 01, 2017, 05:25:38 AM
We got an exclusive on April 1st.

http://pk.ign.com/ign-pakistan/12985/feature/exclusive-bioware-says-characters-will-not-have-faces-in-mas
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: Quemaqua on Saturday, April 01, 2017, 10:28:27 PM
Haha, nicely done.
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: MysterD on Sunday, April 02, 2017, 09:30:00 AM
This is interesting...and kind of funny b/c it was news let loose on April Fools Day.
Though, could this possibly be true...?

TechRaptor - Did BioWare OutSource their Facial Animations to other EA Studios? (https://techraptor.net/content/report-bioware-outsourced-mass-effect-andromeda-facial-animations)
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: MysterD on Friday, April 07, 2017, 05:23:54 AM
RockPaperShotgun - All about "Eye Shader" Patch 1.05 that fixes the eyes + some of the animations. (https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2017/04/07/mass-effect-andromeda-face-patch/)
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda
Post by: MysterD on Wednesday, May 10, 2017, 03:16:29 PM
Kotaku - Sources have some big news regarding the future of BioWare Montreal + Mass Effect Franchise. (http://kotaku.com/sources-bioware-montreal-downsized-mass-effect-put-on-1795100285)

1. BioWare Montreal is getting down-scaled.
2. BioWare Montreal is getting turned into a support studio.
3. BioWare Edmonton is working on their new IP project code-named "Dylan," in which BioWare Montreal will be a support studio on that project.
4. Some of the BioWare Montreal employees have already been moved to other EA-based offices + studios.
5. Mass Effect franchise is being put on hold, for now.
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda -> Update: BW Montreal to be down-scaled, ME IP on hold.
Post by: Cobra951 on Thursday, May 11, 2017, 10:03:36 AM
How sad an end that might be for a great IP.
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda -> Update: BW Montreal to be down-scaled, ME IP on hold.
Post by: MysterD on Sunday, May 14, 2017, 04:11:44 AM
YongYea on Youtube - Chronicles the ME:A animations + cut-scene improvements from Original version, 1.05, and 1.06. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzVAClWI4UU)
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda -> Update: BW Montreal to be down-scaled, ME IP on hold.
Post by: MysterD on Wednesday, June 07, 2017, 05:05:32 PM
Hell of a read here from Kotaku.

Kotaku - The Story Behind Mass Effect: Andromeda's Troubled Five Years. (http://kotaku.com/the-story-behind-mass-effect-andromedas-troubled-five-1795886428)
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda -> Update: BW Montreal to be down-scaled, ME IP on hold.
Post by: MysterD on Sunday, July 09, 2017, 07:00:42 AM
GameRant - The additional Denuvo DRM has been patched-out of ME:A PC version:
https://gamerant.com/mass-effect-andromeda-drm-pc/
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda -> Update: BW Montreal to be down-scaled, ME IP on hold.
Post by: MysterD on Friday, July 14, 2017, 04:08:42 PM
Destructoid - ME:A now has Free 10 Hour Trial on PC, PS4 & XB1, so go get the trial on your respective service if you want (Origin on PC, XBL on XB1, PSN on PS4). (https://www.destructoid.com/mass-effect-andromeda-now-has-a-10-hour-trial-448924.phtml)
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda -> Update: 10 Hour Trial released for PC, X1, PS4.
Post by: MysterD on Saturday, July 15, 2017, 04:33:32 AM
Mass Effect: Andromeda (PC) - since I've been very curious about this, I downloaded the approx. 47GB Trial.

I played a little bit over 2 hours worth of ME:A from this 10 hour trial...and I actually do like it, so far.  I probably was smart in waiting to buy this b/c I'm not really having much complaints here w/ the animations here, in its current version + early on in this game. At least early on here, it probably has come a long from what we've seen from version 1.00 vs. now; I can't speak on how the facial animations have been re-tweaked for later on, as I haven't got that far + haven't bought the game yet. Every little thing they did (extra shadows + whatnot; eyeball tracking which is VERY important; etc) has really mattered here, in the early scenes. I've certainly seen much worse animations...in numerous Bethesda games before, TBH.

The game's flat-out gorgeous. The scenery on the planet that I'm on in this opening Prologue just looks wonderful. Character models look great. If there's anything that Frostbite can do, it's produce great-looking graphics.

Combat's by far the best it has ever felt in an ME:A game. The extra jet-packing really makes combat much more interesting as now you feel like you have to constantly keep moving, can jump, and zip in different directions in the air quickly for a brief moment - than say just constantly sitting behind cover compared to the old ME games. Combat is just much more fun, visceral + interesting this way. I'm loving this, TBH.

My complaints right now are this: story + character stuff. Namely, some of it lacks depth + personality - which, of course, the older ME games are absolutely known for.

It seems to have characters enter + exit too quickly. Granted, I'm only a bit over 2 hours in - but some characters that felt like they should be important are already getting killed off or written-out of the script too quickly. How am I supposed to care about them, if you're just axing them by death or kicking them out of the script too quickly? It seems like sometimes, we're not even given enough info about and spent time w/ a character to really even care about them. It does really feel like this game's story + character stuff was thrown together in the last 18 months or so, in that regard.

Other than the absolutely hilarious "my face is tired" line, the dialogue quality of the writing isn't horrible, TBH. It just feels like....they are basically hitting the beats they feel they need to + move the heck on, since they didn't have time to flesh a lot of that stuff out. Unfortunately, this game could really use more dialogue + writing. It doesn't really have the depth or intrigue of the older ME games - in both character + story & whatnot, at least so far.

There's also this weird tone going on in the game - b/c most of the 200,000 people on this ship are waking up 600 years later or so from a cryogenic sleep + you are basically trying to find & set-up a new home. Most characters seem to be ultra-positive about finding a new place. It's weird, as you'd think b/c you basically got evicted from your home planet + went into cryo-sleep on a ship in space, everybody would wake up pretty much upset, pissed-off, depressed, or something that they have to go try + find a new home. At least, for the most part, Ryder is given options to answer in a negative manner (i.e. cynical, depressed, not happy) or positive, when given dialogue options - as since the game seems so positive + hopeful in tone, at least I can bring the game back to its reality. There seems to be very few characters so far who are negative here, except the blunt & often angry-seeming Addison.

Regardless, I certainly played games much worse than this. It's good with its combat + graphics & it certainly has potential with its interesting premise (i.e. discover + set-up new lands & worlds), for sure - but it's just not on that BioWare Edmonton level of greatness w/ the character + story stuff. At least not yet, anyways - I can't speak on if it gets better since...well, I ain't got far along enough + I haven't bought the full game yet. It could be that this game is a slow-burn b/c it's said to be very long, too - and maybe it could develop + accumulate much more stuff later (i.e. story + plot + character), since people have said it does take about 10 hours to get past the initial stuff.

We'll just have to wait + see, I guess...whenever that might actually be...with me actually getting to the point in the game where (or if) it turns around + to actually buying the game.
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda -> Update: 10 Hour Trial released for PC, X1, PS4.
Post by: MysterD on Saturday, August 19, 2017, 05:25:49 PM
ME:A News from BioWare. (https://www.masseffect.com/news/mass-effect-andromeda-update-from-the-studio)

Patch 1.10 will be last ME:A Patch for the SP component.
No more SP content coming (i.e. DLC's) for ME:A.
There are plans for more MP content from the MP-development team.
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda -> Update: Patch 1.10 to be final SP patch
Post by: MysterD on Monday, August 28, 2017, 03:53:13 PM
So, yeah - I bought it during the $20 Origin sale. I'm now some 19 hours into this - 10 hours from the demo; and approx. another 9 hours total from this past Saturday & Sunday.

I'm enjoying this quite a lot actually, so far.

It feels like the story & characters lack depth and personality here. More so than anything, it feels like many characters are just....straight-forward in their style, words, language, and all of that stuff. It's not terrible, mind you - but it's all just doing enough to keep the player invested in doing the next quest & exploring the open-world...which is similar to actually how a lot of open-world games including Skyrim, do this kind of game. Dialogue isn't great, but it ain't terrible either; it's certainly often better than often what Bethesda puts together for dialogue & voice-acting. Sure, it can be spotty, once in a while - whether it's the voice-acting, or writing of the dialogue, or both - but it ain't terrible, for the most part.

Just like DA:I, when you hit a big huge open-area/open-world/open-planet - you can just get really addicted to doing quests, whether side or main; especially side stuff. A lot of the side-quests on the planets (not hubs) have to do w/ the overall building of the game-world/planet & gathering resources from it (since you're a Pathfinder and trying to colonize planets). They feel really connected to your job, as Pathfinder - and often, I seem to be doing these. They might be resource grabbing or fetch quests, but they're actually connected to your Pathfinder role.

That's, of course, not talking about other Loyalty side-quests and other side-quests that have to do w/ doing other things - whether short fetch quests, morality quests, quests w/ their own short story, and/or things of that sort.

Combat's great, for the most part. You will be constantly zipping in and out of cover or forced to move out of cover, as they will flank you out of it if you sit there in cover too long. You have a jet-pack, so you can use that to zip in all kinds of directions. You can place your teammates to move to certain spots that you're aiming at (like ME1+2+3) - but there's no BioWare Strategic Pause (unlike ME1+2+3). Without this BW Pause, you can't tell them to use their skills and have them do combos along with you to have a synergy of attacks & skills going - so that part kind of stinks. Though, you'll likely be more invested in what you're doing in combat than what they're doing anyways, unless they get knocked-down. Then, if they go down, you'll have to get them back up...if you can, before you get killed.

Regardless, so far...really digging Mass Effect: Andromeda, despite my issues with its story & character depth and personality.
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda -> Update: Patch 1.10 to be final SP patch
Post by: nickclone on Wednesday, February 06, 2019, 04:42:17 PM
Finally got an XB1 yesterday and I bought this game because I played the last 3 and this was only $7. I've only put a couple of hours in it so far, but I have to say that this game is freaking awesome so far! I guess it doesn't hurt that I'm playing the patched version, but I'm still liking the gameplay. The gunfights have a certain "Omaha Beach, Saving Private Ryan" feel to it (so far). I like this game, too bad they didn't take more time to develop it.
Title: Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda -> Update: Patch 1.10 to be final SP patch
Post by: MysterD on Thursday, February 07, 2019, 11:54:12 PM
I think my issue w/ Andromeda is this: it's a good open-world shooter, but not a good Mass Effect game.

It is a good open-world FPS like that of a UbiSoft open-world game like Far Cry with one-off quests, collect-a-thons, and side-stuff everywhere. Combat's the best it's ever been in a ME game, here in Andromeda.

But this is also a not-so-good Mass Effect game. A lot of BioWare's hallmark stuff isn't here. There's a real lack of choice in most quests; not much character/story depth; and the dialogue/writing just isn't anywhere in the league of many of the other great BioWare Edmonton games.