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Offline Pugnate

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Bradley Manning
« on: Wednesday, August 21, 2013, 10:11:21 PM »
So he gets 35 years. Thoughts?
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Re: Bradley Manning
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday, August 21, 2013, 10:52:15 PM »
He leaked 700,000 sensitive files during wartime, compromising diplomacy and the military.  Let's see.  525600/700,000 = 0.75 minutes per file per year . . . *35

26.28 minutes of prison time per file leaked.  Such a bargain.
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« Reply #2 on: Wednesday, August 21, 2013, 11:38:45 PM »
Hmm, expose criminal activity get 35 years of jail time? Shit deal.
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Offline gpw11

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Re: Re: Bradley Manning
« Reply #3 on: Thursday, August 22, 2013, 10:55:50 AM »
I think there's a bit of a misconception out there on what Manning did: he indiscriminately released thousands of classified files without knowing what was on them.  Anything he exposed was by accident.

And I also don't really get the claims of exposing war crimes. The Collateral Murder video is usually what this refers to, but the incident was already known before Manning released anything.

Honestly I agree with Cobra and think he got a deal....especially when tried under military law.
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Re: Bradley Manning
« Reply #4 on: Thursday, August 22, 2013, 03:28:53 PM »
I know what he did is highly controversial, especially when paired up against Snowden, but 35 years is a bit much when you consider that murderers, rapists, paedophiles, and worse get lower sentences. I mean, how bad is it really? High treason? Information and exposure can be managed. It just doesn't feel like the punishment fits the crime.
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« Reply #5 on: Thursday, August 22, 2013, 03:46:57 PM »
I don't think the highly controversial nature of what he did is the issue as much as the highly illegal nature.

As for the comparison to murderers: you have to look at sentencing as independent events or you'll lose your mind in this world.   

But the fact is that jail time is a deterrent just as much as it is a punishment in this case and a strong message should probably be sent out to other intelligence officers who are having a bad day.

Does it suck for the guy? Sure, but he put himself in that position and the ten years of actual time served isn't going to be too bad.   Cold war era and he would have been at the end of a rope by now.
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« Reply #6 on: Friday, August 23, 2013, 04:43:25 AM »
True enough. It's a messy situation and it's got too many blurred lines.
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« Reply #7 on: Friday, August 23, 2013, 04:53:44 AM »
Oh man now that stupid Robin Thicke song is stuck in my head. On the positive side, so is the explicit video.
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Re: Bradley Manning
« Reply #8 on: Friday, August 23, 2013, 05:34:40 AM »
Quote from: scottws on Friday, August 23, 2013, 04:53:44 AM
Oh man now that stupid Robin Thicke song is stuck in my head. On the positive side, so is the explicit video.
Haha, my sincere apologies
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