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Title: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: Pugnate on Friday, May 28, 2010, 08:37:51 AM
The football world cup is around the corner. I know most of you aren't fans, but I can't wait. I've been an Argentina supporter since the 1986 world cup when I was only 6 years old heh. They have some great players, though their leader, their coach Maradona, while a genius player in his time, is a bit crazy as a coach.

Anyway they have one of the greatest footballers in the world in Lionel Messi, who will hopefully help them with the cup.

I want you guys to see this:



The craziest thing about the finish of that goal is that he is left footed.

edit:

Official website of the worldcup:

http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: beo on Friday, May 28, 2010, 08:55:40 AM
argentina? i spit on you.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: Pugnate on Friday, May 28, 2010, 09:07:37 AM
haha I was waiting for that...
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: angrykeebler on Friday, May 28, 2010, 02:00:58 PM
M girlfriend is Greek and South Korea's very first match is against Greece.

So I'm cheering for Greece, I guess.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: Pugnate on Friday, May 28, 2010, 02:11:35 PM
Damn, you are going to have some good looking kids.

Well... hopefully.

Greece play a very defense brand of football. I don't enjoy watching them. Anyway, Greece and Korea are in the same group as Argentina and Nigeria.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: ren on Friday, May 28, 2010, 08:11:34 PM
I always cheer for England but that's hasn't worked out since 1966.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: Cobra951 on Friday, May 28, 2010, 08:40:36 PM
So you cheered them to victory in '66?  And here you've been telling us you're a kid. 
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: Pugnate on Friday, May 28, 2010, 09:51:16 PM
haha...

England look really really strong right now under their new coach. They are basically the same team as last time... but a decent coach makes a big difference.

There is a big chance that Beo might kill himself drinking come the world cup final.

OK so he might do that regardless.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: ren on Friday, May 28, 2010, 10:30:20 PM
I've been working for years to shed that kid image, it's been fruitless so far so I'm resorting to outright lies.

Hey Pug, who does Pakistan usually align themselves behind a single country for the cup?
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: Pugnate on Friday, May 28, 2010, 10:55:57 PM
Not sure... I see a lot of Premier League fans here so I am thinking England... despite the whole colonizing thing and all. :P
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: Ghandi on Friday, May 28, 2010, 11:02:11 PM
I want you guys to see this:



The craziest thing about the finish of that goal is that he is left footed.

That's one of the best goals I've ever seen - an absolutely insane level of skill.

When do things start?

I've been working for years to shed that kid image, it's been fruitless so far so I'm resorting to outright lies.

I hope your plan isn't to say you were pretending to be a 13 year old boy. Because that's just creepy.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: Cools! on Saturday, May 29, 2010, 04:01:48 PM
I can't wait! Though this time around I don't really have a favorite team. Maybe I'll go with England this time around.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: beo on Saturday, May 29, 2010, 06:16:44 PM
you are now all supporting england by default. cool?
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: angrykeebler on Saturday, May 29, 2010, 07:17:08 PM
This Nike ad for the World Cup is really really awesome
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: ren on Saturday, May 29, 2010, 11:17:22 PM
hahaha, they have this song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpV5InLw52U&playnext_from=TL&videos=pQkgm8V3vL8) playing in the background. That video never fails to make me laugh. The guy is ridiculous.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: Pugnate on Sunday, May 30, 2010, 11:26:22 AM
That's one of the best goals I've ever seen - an absolutely insane level of skill.

When do things start?

Yea Messi is all about dribbling and ball control.

The other great player is Cristiano Ronaldo from Portugal. His best goals come from great distances.



That clip has two of his top goals.

And please don't support England.

Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: angrykeebler on Sunday, May 30, 2010, 02:15:56 PM
I wish Ireland had made it into the tournament so I could throw my support behind them JUST TO SPITE BEO
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: Pugnate on Sunday, May 30, 2010, 03:57:41 PM
When it comes to football, Argentina are the next best thing...

If you notice the 1998 incident, I saw it live...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentina_and_England_football_rivalry

Keep in mind Argentina and England fought a war over the Falkland Islands in '82.

Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: Pugnate on Sunday, May 30, 2010, 04:09:27 PM
BTW..

You guys should be supporting your US of A.

They are in the same group as England, so that should be a great match heh.

Also, the USA team is not bad. Less than a year ago, they reached the final of a pretty big tournament with Brazil. They almost beat Brazil too. USA lead 2-0 before Brazil scored three goals to beat them 3-2. But everyone was surprised by how well the US had played.

Official website of the worldcup:

http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: beo on Sunday, May 30, 2010, 04:37:54 PM
I wish Ireland had made it into the tournament so I could throw my support behind them JUST TO SPITE BEO
ireland, really? who gives a fuck about ireland?
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: angrykeebler on Sunday, May 30, 2010, 06:45:41 PM
ireland, really? who gives a fuck about ireland?

I just thought you guys hated them. You know, cause of the...uhh bombs and stuff...i listen to Flogging Molly sometimes
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: PyroMenace on Sunday, May 30, 2010, 07:24:31 PM
BTW..

You guys should be supporting your US of A.

They are in the same group as England, so that should be a great match heh.

Also, the USA team is not bad. Less than a year ago, they reached the final of a pretty big tournament with Brazil. They almost beat Brazil too. USA lead 2-0 before Brazil scored three goals to beat them 3-2. But everyone was surprised by how well the US had played.

Official website of the worldcup:

http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/

I think we shouldn't even have a soccer team, because we all watch football instead.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: Pugnate on Monday, May 31, 2010, 01:00:35 AM
But....this....is... football. :P
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: ren on Monday, May 31, 2010, 01:38:40 AM
As much as I'd love for England to take it, the aftermath if America kicked them out would be amazing.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: Pugnate on Monday, May 31, 2010, 09:20:02 AM
haha yea if the USA managed to somehow beat England, people would seriously freak.

I love supporting the underdogs. I think it would be sweet if the US of A somehow beat England, however unlikely. England have Gerrard and Lampard, two of the midfielders in the world, and Rooney, one of the best strikers in the world.

Roony featured heavily in that Nike video Keebs posted.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: Pugnate on Wednesday, June 02, 2010, 02:30:07 PM
Pretty entertaining read:

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/SPORT/football/05/30/football.world.cup.controversies/index.html?hpt=C2

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6. Chile v Italy, 1962

Probably the most violent game of football in World Cup history is universally known as the "Battle of Santiago."

In the aftermath of a powerful earthquake just two years earlier, Chile had made a success of hosting the tournament. However, two Italian journalists unwisely decided to write a disparaging article about capital city Santiago, which fanned the flames before the match.

The 90 minutes that followed saw English referee Ken Aston completely lose control of proceedings. Police had to intervene three times as both sides exchanged punches and kicks with alarming regularity. Add in some spitting for good measure, and it's easy to picture the scene.

Bizarrely, the host nation finished the match with all 11 men on the field, while Italy had two players dismissed. The final score, which seemed to be completely lost in a haze of violence, was 2-0 to Chile.

Gotta love the Italians..

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2. Andres Escobar, 1994

Colombia were viewed as one of the favorites for overall victory in the United States, but a disappointing 3-1 defeat by Romania in their opening group game meant the pressure was on for the next match against the host nation, in front of nearly 100,000 people in Pasadena.

With the scores level after 34 minutes, Atletico Nacional full-back Escobar deflected a cross from John Harkes into his own net. The U.S. eventually won the match 2-1 and the highly-fancied Colombians were heading home despite beating Switzerland in their final group match.

Just 10 days after his error, Escobar was shot 12 times outside a bar in his home city of Medellin. Speculation abounded about the motives, with reports that Escobar's own-goal had cost local betting syndicates a small fortune.

A local teacher was found guilty of his murder, and served just 11 years in jail. Escobar was only 27 years of age, and a nation mourned his death.

I remember that vividly from when I was a kid.

Reading about it again now makes me sad. The stuff we kill each other over.

Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: alina8528 on Thursday, June 03, 2010, 04:01:08 AM
South Africa, where the Fifa Football World Cup is to kick off 11 June, has introduced cleaner transportation, while Brazil is planning ecological stadiums for the championship it will host in 2014. But these and other initiatives clash with the countries' overall environmental performance. The first Fifa (International Federation of Association Football) World Cup to take place on the African continent will leave a carbon footprint more than eight times greater than the 2006 World Cup in Germany, according to a study conducted in February 2009 at the request of the South African government and the Norwegian embassy in that country.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: Pugnate on Saturday, June 12, 2010, 06:03:26 AM
Argentina play Nigeria in 30 min and USA vs England in 6 hours or so.

USA vs Eng should be pretty awesome.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: ren on Saturday, June 12, 2010, 06:50:29 AM
South Korea played really well, much better than I was expecting. I was really hoping for Greece to be embarrassed, no disappointment there.

Now Argentina better win and then England, but just barely.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: Cobra951 on Saturday, June 12, 2010, 08:24:54 AM
I'm trying to watch Nigeria vs Argentina, but WTF is that incessant dizzying whine?  It's not the crowd.  Sounds like truck tires on metal bridge x 1000.

Edit:  Oh, hell.  It is stupid humanity making that ugly racket.  Just saw the yellow horns in a segment on ESPN.

Edit 2:  Vuvuzela? (http://www.southafricaproject.org/blog/2009/06/should-fifa-ban-the-vuvuzela-from-world-cup-2010/)  New word (and hated thing) for me.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: ren on Saturday, June 12, 2010, 09:10:18 AM
That whine was annoying. I was able to tune it out after a while but it completely removed the regular football sounds and chants that every fan is accustomed to.

The Nigerian goalie played a fantastic game. He completely shut out Messi, although Messi did his part by missing the net more than enough times.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: Quemaqua on Saturday, June 12, 2010, 09:20:25 AM
I had a cheeseburger and a Heineken at Taxi's the other day and they had a couple games going.  I sat right under one of the TVs that had that noise going.  I managed to completely ignore it and read my book for 45 minutes.  I'm seriously dead to the world lately.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: beo on Saturday, June 12, 2010, 09:21:36 AM
i'm heading in to watch the game shortly. not sure how confident to feel - the american team seems to be getting better at an exponential rate and i have no idea how our current line-up will perform. the odds are definitely in our favour, but i totally wouldn't rule out a surprise from the USA.

guess we'll see...
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: ren on Saturday, June 12, 2010, 09:32:36 AM
Fuck, I know. I can't shake the feeling the Americans will win. This game should be a good one.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: nickclone on Saturday, June 12, 2010, 10:41:08 AM
I don't care about soccer, but I'm watching this. I wish I knew how the scoring works.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: beo on Saturday, June 12, 2010, 11:14:29 AM
The team with the most goals wins.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: nickclone on Saturday, June 12, 2010, 11:41:21 AM
Whats with the overall plus and negative points?
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: beo on Saturday, June 12, 2010, 12:36:17 PM
Our goal keeper is a massive twat.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: angrykeebler on Saturday, June 12, 2010, 01:10:56 PM
THOSE FUCKING HORNS NEED TO FUCKING STOP JESUS FUCKING CHRIST THEY ARE SO FUCKING ANNOYING  IS EVERY FUCKING AFRICAN IN THE STADIUM PLAYING THESE FUCKING THINGS



*cough*
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: nickclone on Saturday, June 12, 2010, 01:12:15 PM
Luckily the Eng goalie slipped up.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: Cobra951 on Saturday, June 12, 2010, 03:11:34 PM
THOSE FUCKING HORNS NEED TO FUCKING STOP JESUS FUCKING CHRIST THEY ARE SO FUCKING ANNOYING  IS EVERY FUCKING AFRICAN IN THE STADIUM PLAYING THESE FUCKING THINGS



*cough*

Hehe!  I agree.  And yes, I think every goddamned South African's goal in life must be to drive Westerners crazy with those fucking horns.  Here's hoping they never get to host the World Cup again.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: beo on Saturday, June 12, 2010, 05:22:18 PM
That was fucking shocking. Bad bad bad.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: Pugnate on Sunday, June 13, 2010, 11:08:11 AM
Hahahah the USA vs ENG game was just awesome.

First of all, South Korea look really good. Park Ji Sung who plays for Manchester United has clearly gotten very good. South Korea should give Argentina a tough time in their next game.

Argentina started well against Nigeria, but the big issue is their midfielder, Veron, is looking in terrible form. The guy is 36, and had an embarrassing game. He replaced Riquelme, one of the best playmakers (attacking midfielders like Veron, who set up forwards like Messi) around, but Veron is past it. Riquelme was dropped because Maradona who is coach had a massive fight with him.

Overall Argentina were OK, but their defense needs to tighten up. A better team would have scored against them. Their striker Higuain (plays for the Italian club Real Madrid) needs to shape up as well. Messi set him up twice and he just missed easy chances.

Messi himself was great, but just had trouble finishing.

Overall Argentina were a bit disappointing. They play much better than this, and the match was a bit dull.

Regarding the horns, I don't mind them... used to them I guess, but they are annoying a lot of people. France is blaming them for their poor showing. Their coach and captain had trouble communicating.

USA vs Eng...

When the Argentina match started, four of my cousins and my two siblings came by as well, so that was cool.

We all watched the USA vs Eng match, with half of us with Eng (English premier league fans), with the other half supporting USA, the underdogs. So yea, the match was probably the best of the world cup so far. The ball was end to end all night, with both teams playing exciting football.

Donovan is a great midfielder, and he was pretty good. The USA defense was mostly excellent, though they had a serious lapse of concentration early on, when Gerrard got through.

I have no idea why Heskey was playing for England. Few could believe it when he was picked... he missed a lot of chances.

Robert Green has made a ton of mistakes in the English Premier League, and even made a big one three years ago.

The problem for England is that their reserve keepers are actually worse.

It was just shocking when he let one in.

Great match overall.

Germany play Australia in 15 minutes. I'd expect it to go 1-0 in favor of Germany. Germany unfortunately lost a few key players to injury, so I am not expecting the match to be very exciting.

Whats with the overall plus and negative points?

Wha?
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: Pugnate on Sunday, June 13, 2010, 12:02:36 PM
Anyone watching Germany vs Australia right now? Very exciting from football from Germany so far. Leading 2-0 in 20 minutes with quite a few opportunities on top.

Germany lost four key players including skipper Ballack and first choice keeper, but they look really amazing so far.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: angrykeebler on Sunday, June 13, 2010, 12:52:26 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/world_cup_2010/8737455.stm

THANK

YOU

GOD


that it is even being considered.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: Pugnate on Sunday, June 13, 2010, 01:38:17 PM
What a masterclass from Germany. Due to the sudden injuries, a few 20 year olds got to play, and did really well. 4-0...

Yea I hope the ban goes into effect...

The stuff is making news though...

http://msn.foxsports.com/foxsoccer/worldcup/story/vuvuzela-drone-killing-world-cup-atmosphere?GT1=39011
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: angrykeebler on Sunday, June 13, 2010, 01:48:50 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/ANGRYKEEBLER/fuckthesethings.png)
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: Pugnate on Sunday, June 13, 2010, 01:54:58 PM
hahaha

I can't believe people are so annoyed by this. I've seen a lot of cricket played in South Africa, so I am more used to it I guess. :P
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: angrykeebler on Sunday, June 13, 2010, 02:13:54 PM
My girlfriend and I had a bet on South Korea vs Greece. Now she has to buy me korean bbq. If Greece had won I would have had to eat Greek food. (which i dont mind)

I did like a headline in one of the British tabloids today that read "The Hand of Clod" with a picture of a defeated Green.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: ren on Monday, June 14, 2010, 05:32:30 AM
Own goal. And Denmark was playing such a great defensive game the first half.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: Xessive on Monday, June 14, 2010, 06:15:03 AM
hahaha

I can't believe people are so annoyed by this. I've seen a lot of cricket played in South Africa, so I am more used to it I guess. :P
Haha yeah, this is from last year:


"There is of course the smaller variety which sounds like a duck on speed..." Hahahaha ;D
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: Pugnate on Monday, June 14, 2010, 06:45:17 AM
Haha yeah, this is from last year:


"There is of course the smaller variety which sounds like a duck on speed..." Hahahaha ;D

haha I didn't find it annoying till that video...


Own goal. And Denmark was playing such a great defensive game the first half.

Yea I was watching. The defender was laughing after that happened, but I bet that made his team's supporters angrier. :P
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: Ghandi on Tuesday, June 15, 2010, 12:32:45 AM
I've watched very little football / soccer and I don't know much about the game - I can diagnose how the offense is exploiting the defense, what they are doing right and wrong and so forth. But I have yet to understand how teams set up (for instance, a 3-2 defense in basketball - I think there is similar here).

And I don't know why teams are so stagnant - are some not good enough to move quickly or are they just waiting for an opening?

I guess I'm confused because I can watch sports like hokey and basketball - which I don't watch often - and understand whats going on. But most games I've watched during the world cup I feel like teams are playing soft - they are too scared.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: Cobra951 on Tuesday, June 15, 2010, 06:48:56 AM
I have to say that the England/USA game didn't do much to win over new American soccer fans.  It seemed oddly dull.  I told Sandy before the game that soccer is very animated and could be quite exciting, but the experience didn't quite deliver.  Maybe it was the coverage?
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: ren on Tuesday, June 15, 2010, 07:57:47 AM
It was a pretty good game but the low scoring and lack of dominance by any one team might have made it harder for a newcomer to enjoy. Maybe try a more one-sided game so you can see the goal-scoring strategies through to completion. It'll give you a bit more context to appreciate matches among evenly matched teams. Brazil v. North Korea tonight might fit the bill.

I've watched very little football / soccer and I don't know much about the game - I can diagnose how the offense is exploiting the defense, what they are doing right and wrong and so forth. But I have yet to understand how teams set up (for instance, a 3-2 defense in basketball - I think there is similar here).

There are many formations but most of them are variants of either 4-3-3 or 4-3-2. The order is Defence-Midfield-Striker. You can put levels between those levels and change the formation from straight lines to make it more complex.

And I don't know why teams are so stagnant - are some not good enough to move quickly or are they just waiting for an opening?

I guess I'm confused because I can watch sports like hokey and basketball - which I don't watch often - and understand whats going on. But most games I've watched during the world cup I feel like teams are playing soft - they are too scared.

I don't see the slowness as much different as when a hockey team spends tens of seconds past the blue line passing it back and forth. There's lots of build-up and then somebody breaks through.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: Pugnate on Tuesday, June 15, 2010, 12:26:56 PM
To be honest, club football like the English Premier League can be more exciting.

The thing is that these are opening games, and no one wants to lose. There is so much at stake. Trust me, come the knockout stage (round of 16, followed by quarter finals and so on), the games will be far more exciting.

As for formations, you have eleven players. Typically four are defenders, four take up various midfield positions, and two are strikers.

Normally the two wides defenders (left back and right back) also run up to midfield and attacking positions depending on the match situation.

The Germany match was really exciting.

I am watching the North Korea match at the moment.... wtf? Is it just me or the North Koreans look frightened to death of losing?
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: Pugnate on Thursday, June 17, 2010, 04:21:54 PM
France lost and may be out of the world cup.

Argentina playing exciting football and beat Korea 4-1.

It was a very entertaining match.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: Cools! on Thursday, June 17, 2010, 10:25:53 PM
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France lost and may be out of the world cup.

Good. They were utterly useless.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: Ghandi on Friday, June 18, 2010, 01:10:18 AM
Good. They were utterly useless.

You sound surprised. This is FRANCE we are talking about.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: beo on Friday, June 18, 2010, 01:27:07 AM
france were an awesome team up until recently. they won the world cup in 98, the uefa in 2000 and confederations in 2003. their current team, however, does suck.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: Pugnate on Friday, June 18, 2010, 02:07:24 AM
Yea they were last year's world cup finalists. Zidane (the guy who was redcarded in the final for headbutting the Italian defender) was a great footballer.

They still have some great players like Ribery, Henry, Anelka, Gourcuff up front and some world class defenders, but they just don't seem to be getting it right on the field with the manager playing extremely defensively. There are also rumors of infighting.

Plus Ribery (who has been called the jewel of France), has a court case pending for having sex with an underage prostitute. He says he did do that with her, but didn't know she was underage at the time.

Here is Zhia Dehar, the girl:

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=Zahia+Dehar&btnG=Google+Search

Apparently it was Ribery's birthday present or something. With the court case pushed till after the world cup, and a few other squad members involved, I bet it is on their minds.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: ren on Friday, June 18, 2010, 09:27:55 AM
The USA should have won that, I have no idea why that goal was called back. Also, fuck Slovenia. They played such a dirty game. That yellow right outside the box should've been a red.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: Pugnate on Friday, June 18, 2010, 12:18:07 PM
Now that was an exciting match.

Horrible officiating I agree. USA should make it through though, and I hope they go far (as long as it is not at the expense of Argentina).  :P

edit:

Am watching England play Algeria just now. I am sure Beo is watching. Despite my support for the underdogs, I hope England do win because I want to see Beo's team go ahead.

But yea, trash talking Algerian football was probably a mistake, as they've come out fired up and played pretty well in the first half. Nil Nil so far.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: beo on Friday, June 18, 2010, 01:31:37 PM
That was fucking abysmal.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: Pugnate on Friday, June 18, 2010, 01:41:33 PM
Yea what a terrible match. England were so dominant in the qualifiers. Beat Croatia (a much better team than Algeria) 5-1.

Very uninspired today.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: idolminds on Saturday, June 19, 2010, 05:15:43 PM
Devuvuzelator (http://www.stardock.com/labs/devuvuzelator/)
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Sick of the vuvuzela? Me too. Just download and run the program below to filter your World Cup live broadcast in real-time (ESPN3, BBC, etc), choosing which level of de-vuvuzela'ing filtering you find most suitable. No installation required, just download and run!

Developed by Jeff Bargmann of Stardock in collaboration with the Centre for Digital Music at Queen Mary, University of London.

Interested in learning more about the audio properties of the vuvuzuela? If so, be sure to visit the original post at Isophonics. Enjoy the cup!
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: Cobra951 on Saturday, June 19, 2010, 06:54:34 PM
Someone should send that link to the TV networks.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: Ghandi on Saturday, June 19, 2010, 07:23:15 PM
America got fucked.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: angrykeebler on Monday, June 21, 2010, 03:13:37 PM
man the English side is destroying itself from the inside. when you publicly call out your manager and he tells you to stfu, its not good.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: Pugnate on Monday, June 21, 2010, 03:18:35 PM
Yea man, what the hell is going on?

First it was France, and now England.

When I saw England play Algeria, it was almost as if England were buckling under pressure. These same guys crush such opposition in the premier league.

Greece play Argentina tomorrow. Can't wait.

Argentina should win 5-0 I think heh.

Korea also play Nigeria. Winner should progress with Argie.

The last two matches from each group will happen simultaneously.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: Cools! on Monday, June 21, 2010, 09:46:01 PM
England has been horrible in both games.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: ScaryTooth on Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 07:26:11 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVGtB9j7QCg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVGtB9j7QCg)

Hahah
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: Ghandi on Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 07:51:08 AM
ANOTHER goal gets taken away from the US team. It's half right now and a pretty exciting match so far, although we should have scored since we've had so many opportunities.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: Pugnate on Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 07:58:55 AM
Yea, a do or die situation for both USA and England.

England just scored, and look like winning, so I imagine Beo will get laid tonight.
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Post by: Pugnate on Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 08:52:50 AM
OH My GOD WHAT A GAME! USA SCORES IN THE FINAL MINUTE OF INJURY TIME!

Unbelievable game. USA wins 1-0 and are in the final 16 knock out stage. Crazy stuff.
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Post by: beo on Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 09:37:00 AM
Haha. Nice.
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Post by: angrykeebler on Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 12:47:46 PM
OH My GOD WHAT A GAME! USA SCORES IN THE FINAL MINUTE OF INJURY TIME!

Unbelievable game. USA wins 1-0 and are in the final 16 knock out stage. Crazy stuff.

it was the first minute of injury time...still impressive


very, very happy that it was the U.S and England that got through! Even more glad the U.S won the group as we avoid Germany next game.

GL WITH THAT ENGLAND.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: Pugnate on Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 01:48:58 PM
Not only do you avoid England, but you play Ghana and then probably Uraguy in the quarters... have the semis waiting on a silver platter.

Because this is the final round and every team is now desperate to win, we are seeing some awesome matches.

Nigeria vs Korea was great, and Australia vs Serbia was phenomenal.
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Post by: Cools! on Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 06:50:25 PM
USA has been playing well. I've really enjoyed their matches. Glad they made it to 16.

I hope Germany destroys England. Thank you. :)
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Post by: Ghandi on Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 08:43:18 PM
We have been playing well but we need to finish - we had so many opportunities that game to score before then. It was sensational of course but we had three EASY goals throughout that should have gone in and we just couldn't finish.

Also we need to work on transition defense - I understand we were playing aggressive this game (and for good reason) but we need to get back quicker next game. We gave them too much this game.
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Post by: Pugnate on Thursday, June 24, 2010, 01:15:14 AM
Yea unfortunately if you desperately need to score, and are attacking with wing backs (defenders on the wings) and center backs up front, then you will be vulnerable to a break and a counter.
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Post by: Cools! on Thursday, June 24, 2010, 11:19:49 AM
Well that was interesting.... Italy's out... I have to admit I'm happy for my Slavic brothers but I still didn't expect Italy to lose even though they've been pretty boring the first two games.
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Post by: Pugnate on Thursday, June 24, 2010, 11:21:57 AM
Yup. Shocking.
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Post by: Pugnate on Thursday, June 24, 2010, 12:12:24 PM
Stunning free kicks from Japan!
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Post by: Cools! on Thursday, June 24, 2010, 01:29:51 PM
That was a great game. Denmark had some great chances but it was all Japan in the end. The first two goals were just amazing! Glad to see Japan make it to 16 with South Korea.
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Post by: Pugnate on Friday, June 25, 2010, 11:07:53 PM
So first knockout matches today...

Korea play Uruguay and USA play Ghana!

Tomorrow are the really exciting ones.

England play Germany, and Argentina play Mexico.

Eng vs Germany is always a HUGE game. Expect to see broken hearts followed by riots.
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Post by: nickclone on Saturday, June 26, 2010, 11:21:47 AM
Can anyone explain to me why the games always start a good 30 minutes after they're scheduled? Anyways...

I'm worried, yes we did blow some easy goals, but we've made many good goals that were taken away from us. The refs seem to have it in for the US.
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Post by: Cobra951 on Saturday, June 26, 2010, 11:47:05 AM
US down by 1 to Ghana already.
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Post by: Pugnate on Saturday, June 26, 2010, 11:56:09 AM
Yea at the 24:00 mark Ghana is leading 1 nil.

That was a good first strike from Ghana. They are really fast, but the keeper left a bit too much room for him to strike.

Nick, I suspect the scheduled time takes into account the opening national anthem stuff.

Anyway, USA seem to be under fire here. I'd expect them to defend their hearts out till the first half ends and then the manager/coach will tell them what they are doing wrong.

edit:

USA are getting killed on the wings. They haven't got anyone marking the dude on the left wing.

edit:

The US striker Finley really really messed up that opportunity.
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Post by: nickclone on Saturday, June 26, 2010, 12:08:35 PM
Is the left on the bottom of the screen? I've seen Ghana go for that same spot just about everytime to take a whack at our goal. Luckily, Ghana lost a man...we need all the help we can get.
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Post by: Pugnate on Saturday, June 26, 2010, 12:13:26 PM
Yea... that's where they've been consistently pressurizing the US side...

edit:

End of the first half and US are still trailing 1-0.

Expect the Americans to come back strongly in the second half... at least from how they've played through out this tournament. They've come back against every team after being a goal down. Let's see if that happens here.

Remember, if the US score and the two sides are deadlocked, there will be extra time. Extra time is two segments of 15 minutes.

If they are still deadlocked, then there will be penalties.

5 shots each at the goal defended only by the keeper from the penalty box. It can be exciting.
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Post by: nickclone on Saturday, June 26, 2010, 12:24:16 PM
I've also noticed that the US comes out stronger in the second half, I would love to hear that pep talk. We also look sluggish, but Ghana looks like they've been running at full speed for the first half, I don't think they can keep that up for too much longer.

I'd take the safe win, but if it comes down to the overtime scenario, I hope we whip their ass.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: Pugnate on Saturday, June 26, 2010, 12:32:09 PM
There is a tendency in football (especially amongst Euro teams) to sleep on a lead when the first half ends.

It may have worked in the US's favor in the group matches because those teams were concentrating on defending their slim lead, and the US were more aggressive in the second half.

African and South American teams tend to attack constantly, but it really depends on the coach's strategies.
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Post by: nickclone on Saturday, June 26, 2010, 12:37:59 PM
Well the US is looking a lot better already, they're definitely "awake" now. Let's see if they can now focus it.

On a different note, I've heard a lot of the players saying that the soccer balls being used suck. They go uncontrollably high or something.
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Post by: nickclone on Saturday, June 26, 2010, 12:50:22 PM
Ghana has been playing pretty roughly, good to see them get called on some of it.
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Post by: scottws on Saturday, June 26, 2010, 01:25:34 PM
Yeah but that last yellow was totally bogus.
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Post by: Pugnate on Saturday, June 26, 2010, 01:29:25 PM
Yea these balls have been developed newly for this world cup by some university in the UK (Cambridge?). The Germans have been using them in their club season, but most countries aren't used to them.

Ghana have been good with most of their tackles, though the penalty was pretty on.

If you are making a sliding tackle, and you make contact with the ball first, you are mostly good.

...

Ghana just scored. Great goal.

I just don't see USA coming back from this. They look really tired. Let's see.
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Post by: nickclone on Saturday, June 26, 2010, 01:32:20 PM
Its almost as if the US must be down to do anything significant, if they somehow pull this off, I don't see them going much further.

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Post by: nickclone on Saturday, June 26, 2010, 01:45:45 PM
Let me tell you why soccer will never catch on in America, we like tough players and fair calling. We love it when a player is hurt and keeps on keeping on. However, in soccer, it seems like the more you exaggerate and pretend to be hurt, the better chances you have of winning. You're rewarded for acting like a pussy and the refs don't seem to do anything to stop it.
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Post by: Pugnate on Saturday, June 26, 2010, 01:49:42 PM
This ref is a bit of a pussy actually. If you fake an injury or do a fake dive, you get a yellow card.

edit:

Well, it is over. The US did well to get so far, but aside from Donavan, lacked world class talent. Worked with a lot of heart though.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: nickclone on Saturday, June 26, 2010, 02:05:53 PM
I can't wait for American football to start...but in the meantime, I can always root against those assholes on the Ghana team. I'm black, so it's not racist.
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Post by: Cobra951 on Saturday, June 26, 2010, 02:52:27 PM
Honestly, as much as Ghana were assholes and the refs were either idiots or wimps, the US deserved to lose this one.  They just could not get anything going in extra time.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: nickclone on Saturday, June 26, 2010, 03:09:20 PM
Honestly, as much as Ghana were assholes and the refs were either idiots or wimps, the US deserved to lose this one.  They just could not get anything going in extra time.

It didn't seem like the US showed up for any of their matches until the second half.
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Post by: Cools! on Saturday, June 26, 2010, 11:07:40 PM
The USA seemed caught of guard in the first half, like they didn't expect Ghana to be that good. They didn't really take a lot of chances, played too safe, almost afraid, especially after the quick goal. You can see it a few times with their passes when they gave the ball away because the players didn't create good angles for the ball to stay in their possession. Not enough aggression.

The 2nd half was much better but they ran out of juice in the end.
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Post by: Ghandi on Sunday, June 27, 2010, 12:16:53 AM
The US team missed about 6 golden opportunities in their last qualifying match. This game they missed 3 or so. They were constantly bad in the first half throughout the cup.

Basically if you watched them in previous games nothing that happened today should be surprising.
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Post by: Pugnate on Sunday, June 27, 2010, 07:36:40 AM
Are you guys watching England vs Germany?

Now THIS is a football match. Fucking incredible.
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Post by: Pugnate on Sunday, June 27, 2010, 07:40:50 AM
HOLY FUCK!

Germany leading 2-0 and dominating and then England come back out of nowhere.

England scored and then scored AGAIN and the ref ruled against them. The ball went in, and the ref didn't see it. WTF?!

Hope you guys are watching because this is what good football is. And this is just the first half.

edit:

It was terrible refereeing, and yes Germany scored on two breaks because England were behind and attacking, but England were still completely outclassed. Even if that goal would have been allowed, I still think England would have gotten defeated heavily.
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Post by: angrykeebler on Sunday, June 27, 2010, 12:29:28 PM
really, now...almost every major sport in the world uses technology and instant replays for referee review when a call is disputed. Tennis, NFL, NBA and the NHL all overturn bad calls if a replay shows it. It's time for FIFA to join the 21st century.
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Post by: Pugnate on Sunday, June 27, 2010, 12:37:46 PM
Yea there has to be a way to use tech without interrupting the game too much.

They use it in the second most watched sport in the world after football, as well: Cricket.


edit:

So Argentina are leading 3-0.

Awww yea...
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Post by: angrykeebler on Sunday, June 27, 2010, 12:46:10 PM
Germany vs Argentina will be staggering.
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Post by: Pugnate on Sunday, June 27, 2010, 12:58:51 PM
haha yea... Germany had a warmup with them before the cup, and Argie won 1-0, though they were playing quite defensively then.

I think Germany may get quite a few goals against Argentina.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: angrykeebler on Sunday, June 27, 2010, 01:04:26 PM
In my opinion, this world cup has already been a failure for the following reasons.

1. Vuvuzelas.
2. Terrible officiating. I mean, worse than normal.
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Post by: Cools! on Sunday, June 27, 2010, 02:36:07 PM
I'd have those two as my highlights. :P
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Post by: Ghandi on Sunday, June 27, 2010, 02:44:52 PM
Yeah the officiating is shockingly awful. Where did they get these guys? Do they normally call games in the premier league?
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Post by: Pugnate on Sunday, June 27, 2010, 02:51:08 PM
No no, these are some of the worst decisions I have seen in international football.

Had England equalized with Germany then as they deserved to, things might have been different.

I saw might because Germany were just incredible.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: angrykeebler on Sunday, June 27, 2010, 02:54:35 PM
Yeah the officiating is shockingly awful. Where did they get these guys? Do they normally call games in the premier league?

I'd wager there are only a few officials from the Premier league at the world cup if any
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: Ghandi on Sunday, June 27, 2010, 05:35:41 PM
Well maybe they are making good calls and people cant hear them because BZZZZZZZZZZZBZZZBZZZZZZZBBZZZZZZZZZZZZZBZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: angrykeebler on Saturday, July 03, 2010, 12:16:09 PM
Argentina dismantled by Germany. Germany has to be the new favorite to win it all. Hopefully, this humiliating loss means the last we see of Maradonna.
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Post by: Pugnate on Saturday, July 03, 2010, 01:16:22 PM
Yea it was fucking depressing.

How many teams play four forwards, four defenders, one defensive midfielders and one midfielder?

That worked against poorer teams, but not against an organized team like Germany.

Argentina had no playmaker, because Maradona had a fight with Riquelme.
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Post by: beo on Saturday, July 03, 2010, 05:08:45 PM
england did better against germany than argentina. haha, pug you suck, etc.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: Pugnate on Saturday, July 03, 2010, 08:47:14 PM
england did better against germany than argentina. haha, pug you suck, etc.

hehehe...

yea that was depressing. I am sure the English feel a lot better about their loss now.
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Post by: ren on Saturday, July 03, 2010, 09:52:17 PM
I'm hoping for a Germany-Netherlands final. Over the last week that's been looking more and more likely.
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Post by: ren on Wednesday, July 07, 2010, 05:52:34 AM
Halfway to that final! Unfortunately the game is on at midnight and this city has a stupid rule where bars have to close at 11:30 so i may have to watch it at home by myself.
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Post by: angrykeebler on Wednesday, July 07, 2010, 01:34:53 PM
Spain Vs Netherlands


germany sucked today..totally outclassed
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Post by: beo on Wednesday, July 07, 2010, 04:08:05 PM
looks like paul, the psychic octopus was right...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/10521867.stm
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Post by: ren on Wednesday, July 07, 2010, 11:40:35 PM
Spain is going to crush the Netherlands
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Post by: Pugnate on Wednesday, July 07, 2010, 11:44:22 PM
The only thing that they've been bad at throughout the tournament, is finishing. They seem to need a lot of opportunities, to score a goal or two.
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Post by: Cools! on Thursday, July 08, 2010, 11:32:43 PM
The Dutch have a great team this year. Spain won't have an easy time with them at all. I'd say the Dutch have my vote right now.

The Germany vs Spain game was a snore. Germany never seemed to pick it up which is a testament to Spain's successful play.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: Cobra951 on Sunday, July 11, 2010, 02:15:24 PM
Espaņa takes it all!
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: Pugnate on Sunday, July 11, 2010, 02:35:14 PM
That was a shitty final.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: angrykeebler on Sunday, July 11, 2010, 03:22:18 PM
I, for one, welcome our new psychic octopus overlord.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: beo on Sunday, July 11, 2010, 04:05:27 PM
I, for one, welcome our new psychic octopus overlord.

this.

also, anyone else see that awesome chest kick against one of spanish players? not zidane levels of awesome, but still very funny.
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Post by: ren on Monday, July 12, 2010, 08:40:59 PM
Of course (http://www.shackpics.com/viewer.x?file=falconkick_6l7u6zt33521jyjaebwm.jpg)

That was an awful game though, the worst of the tournament that I saw.
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Post by: Ghandi on Monday, July 12, 2010, 08:45:18 PM
I, for one, welcome our new psychic octopus overlord.

I just read about this a few days ago and it only confirms my previous notion that octopuses are fucking awesome.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: Cobra951 on Monday, July 12, 2010, 09:53:56 PM
I'd like to be under the sea . . . (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgPqmRNjoTE)
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: Pugnate on Monday, July 12, 2010, 10:24:31 PM
That octopus looks like a pedophile.
Title: Re: FIFA world cup in South Africa
Post by: Cobra951 on Tuesday, July 13, 2010, 07:40:04 AM
Not exactly high art, is it?