Topic: Quake 2 is happening! SERVER STATUS updated 10.01.2007 - 12:24 AM

[Ghandi]

You know, I can't get CTF to load. It will never load the map and you don't have it available to download. Thoughts?

[idolminds]

Go into your Quake2 directory, then the CTF directory. Make a copy of pak0.pak and rename it something like zCTF-pak0.pak (thats what I called mine) and move it into the baseq2 directory. Then the maps load.

[Quemaqua]

I was going to say you have to start the game with +set game ctf in the command line, but if you join the server I didn't think you should have to do that.  I'm pretty sure I haven't when I've tested the server out.  I'm confused now.

 ...

Yeah, just tried it.  Didn't have to do a thing but load up EGL and connect.

And idol just posted when I was posting this... and what he says is odd, because I'm 99% sure I didn't copy the .PAK anywhere.

[idolminds]

Yeah, its wierd but it worked for me. I think its because the server is EraserCTF and not just CTF. Like my autoexec.cfg would not load unless I made and put it in the directory (Eraser, EraserCTF, EraserTDM).

[Quemaqua]

Oh, does the server DIR have to be the same?  Fuck, I never even thought of that.   haha... what a dumbass.  I just quickly made copies so that I could have unique information in case I got tweek happy.  Just figured it was all serverside and clients wouldn't get affected.

[Ghandi]

I did what you said Idol, and it still says that it cant load q2ctf3.bsp

I guess I just don't have the map?

[Quemaqua]

Try throwing the PAK in a directory called "EraserCTF", mate.  Let's see if that works.

So why does DM work and stuff?  Even though I'm loading out of the Eraser directory, it still just recognizes as stock DM?  I'm confused again.

[Ghandi]

I don't know. The other game types work.

Also, that didn't work either. I'm really confused.

[Quemaqua]

Bloody hell?  Let me try just turning on downloads.

EDIT - Let's just meet on IRC again and see if we can get this going.

[nickclone]

You have to put all map files in the baseq2 directory and give each pak it's own specific number.

I found some ctf maps here here

[idolminds]

Downloaded those maps, haven't installed em yet.

I also remembered I had a PC Gamer CD where they had a bunch of files for various old games for online play, Quake 2 included. So I dug it out to see whats on there.

Classic map remakes I take it are from Q1:
DM3
DM4
hipdm1 (looks like two remakes of this one)

Models:
Astroboy
Crackwhore
PKnight
Marine
Johnny the Homicidal Maniac
Evil Ernie
The Fonz
Forgotten One
couple others

A bunch of DM maps and skins for both the default male and female models. I'll see how well I can compress the stuff and maybe upload it somewhere.

[Quemaqua]

Well, there's also the infamous Q2PMP which comes in like 20 downloads or so, chock full of like... every model, ever.  I downloaded a bunch, but some of them kind of suck.  I was thinking we should maybe just find the good ones and then put a pack together like you said, let people download and choose from those if they so desired.

[MysterD]

Well, there's also the infamous Q2PMP which comes in like 20 downloads or so, chock full of like... every model, ever.  I downloaded a bunch, but some of them kind of suck.  I was thinking we should maybe just find the good ones and then put a pack together like you said, let people download and choose from those if they so desired.

My God -- the file size must be HUGE!

[idolminds]

Yeah, good idea. These skins/models are all pretty good so I'll see about making a pack with them just to start out with until I can download more. Great part is the skins are tiny...hehe. Hmmm...they seem easy to edit too. Custom skins? zomg...

Well, the skins and models come to 8MB in 7zip, 11MB in plain zip. If theres any interest I'll put it up someplace. This is just the models and skins.

*EDIT*

Here are the male skins, only 400k. Extract to \baseq2\players (so all the .pcx files go in the male directory)

[Quemaqua]

I have webspace if we need it.  But you'd have to upload it to me first if we did it that way.  So whatever works.  The more you can preview and try out the better, and I can try to integrate them into the servers, get bots to use them and stuff (I think there's an autotool that assigns them random values for any models you don't have assigned).  But yeah, the time it takes to preview stuff can be a pain, so if there's anything you can check out and approve beforehand that I don't have to look at, that's awesome.  Let me know what and where and then I can see about integrating it.

Also, I think Ghandi talked about playing again tonight.  If there's interest, I know I won't be available until probably like 11 or so pac time.  Julia's gonna' be on Eternal Sonata and stuff.  But the servers are still up (and have been since yesterday since I don't have much reason to take them down), so anybody else who wants to play either then or beforehand... go for it!

EDIT - Cool, idol.  I'll download those and see if I can get bots to use them.

[idolminds]

I should be down to play tonight. Woohoo!

So yeah, I'll download a bunch of models and let you know if the good ones. I found a place with models so heres the ones I saw that I liked:

pkight
Marine
Johnny the Homicidal Maniac (I can see Que using this one)
crackwhore (I remember this one being popular back when I played)
Doom Cyberdemon

[Quemaqua]

Cool, thanks Idol.  But we have to make sure we can get stuff into a pack for everyone to download to save having to grab them from the server.  So yeah.

Anyway, thanks for the skins.  Bots have been created for them and the servers have been updated with them (some new ones are on the CTF and DM servers right now), and now we all have some more shit to choose from if we get tired of the standard skins.  I need to make a custom one for myself like I used to do (everyone at the FNFF had a custom skin or model they used, so we always knew who was who every time we played).

[Ghandi]

I won't be playing tonight, unfortunately. I need to get up early to write a research paper which is due tomorrow.

[nickclone]

I won't be playing tonight, unfortunately. I need to get up early to write a research paper which is due tomorrow.

One of the reasons I love Q2 so much is because I used to blow off my homework in high school to play. Blow off your responsibilities as well, its in the spirit of playing the game.

[Ghandi]

Normally I would say yes, but I have already blown off my responsibilities. This is a research paper and I haven't started the research as of yet. In about 15 minutes I will be t-minus 12 hours until the deadline. Sleep is not mandatory. It's going to be a grueling stretch to the finish line. Will I get it done? Can Ghandi finish this paper? Tune in tomorrow for details. 

[Quemaqua]

You can tell us all about it tomorrow over a round of CTF.

[idolminds]

Quick note, Que. It seems the TDM server is running regular DM.

Also, you know what would be an awesome DM map? Remake Booty Bay from WoW.

[Ghandi]

You can tell us all about it tomorrow over a round of CTF.

Indeed. I can only hope that an excellent story will be told. It's now t minus 10 1/2 hours and intoxication is imminent.

Also, I heartily endorse Idol's quest to make a Quake2 map.

[Quemaqua]

Good luck, Ghandi!

And yes idol, that map would be awesome.  Make it.  Now.

As for the TDM server... I don't know what the deal is.  I hadn't hopped on to try that one yet, but I was noticing that after the first round, the bots lose their team tags.  Apparently the TDM flag somehow gets reset between maps and the teams aren't re-added and populated.  Which is weird.  I'll have to look into it, but I'm pretty sure I used to play with regular map rotations and teams back in my Eraser days.  Not sure why it's doing that (when the server goes up the teams spawn just fine).

[nickclone]

Are we playing now? I like playing you guys because you're easier to kill and you don't camp like all the other assholes that play this game. I'm glad this server has an unauthorized, yet obvious moral standard when it comes to etiquette.

[Quemaqua]

Unfortunately it's too late for me at this point.  I need to hit the sack soon.  I'm sure we'll be playing more soon, though, as it seems like interest is still high for the time being.

[idolminds]

So I'm downloading the Q2PMP files. Got 1-13 last night. Sorting through them now. First pass is going through and dropping the ones that are just kinda crappy or I don't think anyone will want to play as. Once those are gone I'll mark which ones are just plain "cool" looking. I should have a nice list compiled later that I'll add to as I get the rest of the Q2PMP files.

And holy damn there are a lot of transformers and other assorted giant robots.

*UPDATE*

Theres some damn cool models in here. One I'm going to make CTF skins for because its so cool (should be easy...simple recolor because the single skin for it is mostly red, so I'll blue-ify it and we'll be set)

*UPDATE 2*

Current list is at 27 models. Some may be cut further, but some are definite keepers. I also have the last 6 parts of q2pmp to download and check out.

How important are CTF skins for this? If you choose a model that doesn't have the CTF skins does it switch you to the default male model when you play CTF servers? Otherwise you'd have the same skin on both teams, very confusing.

[Ghandi]

Anyone up for a game tonight?

[idolminds]

Sure. I'm going to idle in IRC (downloading another model pack and testing out the new Zelda).

[Quemaqua]

You're awesome, idol.  And I'm 90% sure that models without CTF skins will just default out to another model.  We can test that later if you want.  Should be an easy test.

I'm definitely up for a game later.  Gotta' go out for a bit, but should be able to play like maybe... 8 or so pac time?  Later is certainly fine, too if that's better.

[Ghandi]

That sounds good for me. I'll be on IRC in a bit, probably around that time.

[Ghandi]

Bleh, my internet crapped out on me and my computer wasn't helping things. It's really slow right now, it doesn't look like I'll be on tonight. Kick D's ass for me while I'm gone.

[MysterD]

Kick D's ass for me while I'm gone.

That wouldn't be too hard for him to do....

[Quemaqua]

Ah don't get down on yourself D.  You were juking a lot more once you realized your autorun was off!  You capped a flag, and got out of the base twice when I was on you.

[MysterD]

What's good and powerful for Q2 MapMaking Programs/SDK's out there???

EDIT:
Is there a way that when we do CTF, players on "Red" will be forced to wear Red" while players on "Blue" get forced to wear Blue?

It's kinda annoying to be shooting and realize, "Oh, it's Idol...he's on my team..."

[idolminds]

They already are forced to wear red/blue? Thats how everything looked to me.

And if you want a map editor, its GTKRadiant.

[Quemaqua]

Yeah, the colors are right, it just can be a little hard to see them.  The colors aren't quite bright enough on some of the darker maps.

[idolminds]

And by "darker maps" you mean "every map for Quake 2".

[Ghandi]

Has anyone found any good Quake2 mods? I'm gonna look for some good ones that we can play.

[idolminds]

Action Quake 2
Rocket Arena
Dirty
Leper
Lithium
Freeze Tag (omg yes)