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Title: Alone in the Dark 2008 Thread
Post by: MysterD on Tuesday, May 27, 2008, 02:29:04 PM
Atari is saying they might jump out of OFFLINE Single Player games market.

Oh, but there might be SP games -- as long they will have Internet connectivity, to be "enhanced" by downloadable content and other junk. (http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?story=52861)

Hmmm...do I smell more games that'll use Securom "Internet Edition" or Securom-Internet Check style DRM?

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Infogrames: Offline Single-Player Games Not Viable
by Aaron Linde May 27, 2008 2:26pm CST tags: Atari, Infogrames

Adding to comments made late last week, Infogrames president and former Sony executive Phil Harrison suggested that linear single-player gaming experiences may be on the way out in favor of online-enabled, downloadable content-fueled titles.

"I think the single-player, disconnected console game is probably in its dotage," Harrison told Videogaming247. "Now, that doesn't mean that those games aren't relevant going forwards, but they will be enhanced by community features being embedded in them, or downloadable content becoming an inherent part of the experience, or some kind of user-generated content will be part of the experience."

"All of the things we see in other games, the things that we can point to in compelling games," he added. "A relatively linear single-player game without online connectivity is going to be a challenge to green-light going forward."

Harrison said last week that Atari, which is wholly owned by Infogrames, would likely be turning away from high-budget single-player titles in the future. It was recently revealed that the Atari-published horror reboot Alone in the Dark will feature an unconventional DVD-style chapter menu, allowing players to rewind or fast-forward through the game at will.
Title: Re: Atari might leave the OFFLINE Single Player Gaming Market
Post by: Cobra951 on Tuesday, May 27, 2008, 05:50:47 PM
A company that struggles to stay solvent is now the guru of future game trends?

Recently they were spouting off about forced hardware encryption in future PC games.  I wonder how many other ways to piss off their user base they can survive.
Title: Re: Atari might leave the OFFLINE Single Player Gaming Market
Post by: Quemaqua on Tuesday, May 27, 2008, 06:22:45 PM
I think Harrison must have gone a little crazy after leaving Sony.
Title: Re: Atari might leave the OFFLINE Single Player Gaming Market
Post by: scottws on Tuesday, May 27, 2008, 07:09:25 PM
A company that struggles to stay solvent is now the guru of future game trends?

Recently they were spouting off about forced hardware encryption in future PC games.  I wonder how many other ways to piss off their user base they can survive.
Next they'll start advertising on gravestones or some wacky shit like Acclaim did.
Title: Re: Atari might leave the OFFLINE Single Player Gaming Market
Post by: gpw11 on Tuesday, May 27, 2008, 07:50:40 PM
I think this all once again leads back to piracy.  Well, that and opening up long-term revenue streams.
Title: Re: Atari might leave the OFFLINE Single Player Gaming Market
Post by: MysterD on Tuesday, May 27, 2008, 08:25:03 PM
A company that struggles to stay solvent is now the guru of future game trends?

Recently they were spouting off about forced hardware encryption in future PC games.  I wonder how many other ways to piss off their user base they can survive.

Yeah, I mentioned Bushnell's comment in this thread on Piracy about the encryption chip, if anyone missed it... (http://www.overwritten.net/forum/index.php?topic=3962.msg51478#msg51478)

You're right, Cobra. Whatever these publishers keep coming up w/ -- Atari w/ the encryption chip and publishers (EA, Take 2 Interactive) opting for Securom Net Edition -- they just keep coming up w/ more and more things that can try to drive PC gaming even further into the ground.

As long as companies like Stardock exist w/ games lacking DRM, PC gaming ain't dying.

Title: Re: Atari might leave the OFFLINE Single Player Gaming Market
Post by: gpw11 on Tuesday, May 27, 2008, 10:32:36 PM
But lets not kid ourselves here, profitability must be a pretty big issue if so many developers are resorting to shitty shitty desperation moves. The reasons don't really matter, but if someone doesn't come up with a viable solution, consoles are going to continue to over shadow the PC until all we have left are FPS games and the occasional RTS.....wait, shit.
Title: Re: Atari might leave the OFFLINE Single Player Gaming Market
Post by: MysterD on Saturday, May 31, 2008, 05:55:30 AM
But lets not kid ourselves here, profitability must be a pretty big issue if so many developers are resorting to shitty shitty desperation moves. The reasons don't really matter, but if someone doesn't come up with a viable solution, consoles are going to continue to over shadow the PC until all we have left are FPS games and the occasional RTS.....wait, shit.
Oh, and the MMO.
Title: Re: Atari might leave the OFFLINE Single Player Gaming Market
Post by: Ghandi on Saturday, May 31, 2008, 11:02:21 AM
I think this all once again leads back to piracy.  Well, that and opening up long-term revenue streams.

And hookers. They have to take their lines off the ass of someone.
Title: Re: Atari might leave the OFFLINE Single Player Gaming Market
Post by: MysterD on Friday, June 20, 2008, 09:03:16 PM
Alone in the Dark PC (2008) will use Securom and will have revokes (a la Bioshock). (https://www.aitdunlock.com/)
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark 2008 PC to use Securom for Activation WITH Revokes
Post by: MysterD on Thursday, June 26, 2008, 02:11:04 PM
PC Reviews of Alone in the Dark
6 from VideoGamer (out of 10) (http://www.videogamer.com/pc/alone_in_the_dark_near_death_investigation/review.html)

Title: Re: Alone in the Dark 2008 PC to use Securom for Activation WITH Revokes
Post by: Quemaqua on Thursday, June 26, 2008, 06:48:06 PM
I predict complete failure.  Nobody gives a shit about the franchise, so even if the game was awesome, who's going to be there to care?
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark 2008 PC to use Securom for Activation WITH Revokes
Post by: MysterD on Thursday, June 26, 2008, 07:10:43 PM
I predict complete failure.  Nobody gives a shit about the franchise, so even if the game was awesome, who's going to be there to care?

It's not like Atari's had a major advertisement/marketing campaign to push this thing, either.
The DRM isn't going to help the PC version's cause, either.

If it didn't sell well, say at least the game turned out awesome -- well, at least there'd be an awesome cult-classic game for the gamers to go find.

Some of very good games just didn't sell well, but I'd glad the game was awesome and some publisher green-lighted that game -- see Psychonauts, Arcanum, Planescape: Torment and Vamp: Bloodlines, for example.
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark 2008 PC to use Securom for Activation WITH Revokes
Post by: gpw11 on Thursday, June 26, 2008, 07:35:01 PM
Damn it, I thought it looked pretty awesome personally.  I guess I'll wait until it's on sale for some change.
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark 2008 PC to use Securom for Activation WITH Revokes
Post by: Quemaqua on Thursday, June 26, 2008, 08:53:26 PM
The game doesn't seem too horrible.  Sounds like a decent game plagued with unfortunate design elements that make it more frustrating than it needs to be.  Which is, let's face it, a lot of games.  If the good stuff is good enough, I could probably get beyond the bad.
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark 2008 PC to use Securom for Activation WITH Revokes
Post by: MysterD on Friday, June 27, 2008, 01:37:45 PM
I was -- and still am, actually -- looking forward to this one, once it gets cheaper and all.

Despite the design issues stuff, it does look like it could still be a decent ride.

I really don't want to deal w/ Securom. At least it has revokes, though -- unlike Mass Effect PC (currently).

Hopefully, Atari will eventually do what Bioshock did -- pull the revokes out, at a later date; which probably would be when the sales of the game have died down and when the game is universally cheaper (like $20 everywhere).
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark 2008 PC to use Securom for Activation WITH Revokes
Post by: Quemaqua on Friday, June 27, 2008, 02:05:42 PM
probably would be when the sales of the game have died down

No problem then.  It should already have happened before it was even released.
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark 2008 PC to use Securom for Activation WITH Revokes
Post by: MysterD on Friday, June 27, 2008, 04:17:21 PM
No problem then.  It should already have happened before it was even released.

From the 3rd parties (hackers), yes.
And if it hasn't, it will.

But, one could make a point the protection should already have been cracked by the 1st party (Atari themselves) anyways -- b/c using such protections is enough to piss off legit PC-game buyers.

One could make a point they should've never used this protection, in the first place...
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark 2008 PC to use Securom for Activation WITH Revokes
Post by: MysterD on Friday, July 04, 2008, 08:42:05 PM
PC Version Reviews
7.9 from Gamer 2.0 (out of 10) (http://www.gamer20.com/gamehub/alone-in-the-dark-pc/review/1312)
6.9 from Videogamer.com (out of 10) (http://www.videogamer.com/pc/alone_in_the_dark_near_death_investigation/review.html)
6.0 from Boomtown (out of 10) (http://pc.boomtown.net/en_uk/articles/art.view.php?id=16288)

X360 Reviews
7.7 from ActionTrip (out of 10) (http://www.actiontrip.com/reviews/360/aloneinthedark.phtml)
7.3 from GameTrailers (out of 10) (http://www.gametrailers.com/gamereview.php?id=2582)
7 from Eurogamer (out of 10) (http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=154462&page=2)
6.5 from GameSpot (out of 10) (http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/aloneinthedark/review.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=gssummary&tag=summary;review)
3.5 from IGN (out of 10) (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/884/884519p1.html)
2 stars from GameSpy (out of 5) (http://xbox360.gamespy.com/xbox-360/alone-in-the-dark-360/884413p1.html)


Title: Re: Alone in the Dark 2008 Thread
Post by: gpw11 on Saturday, July 05, 2008, 01:33:35 AM
Wow, all over the map.  I'm still interested but this is one case where I'd really like to try a demo first.
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark 2008 Thread
Post by: Xessive on Saturday, July 05, 2008, 09:49:55 AM
I think most of those scores (the higher ones) were revised after Atari went review-hunting. Apparently they were pretty miffed about the low scores and sent out notices to remove the "bad" reviews. I think they're actually in a legal battle with German mag claiming they reviewed the game based on a leaked/pirated copy.
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark 2008 Thread
Post by: MysterD on Saturday, July 05, 2008, 11:25:48 AM
I think most of those scores (the higher ones) were revised after Atari went review-hunting. Apparently they were pretty miffed about the low scores and sent out notices to remove the "bad" reviews.
Oh, that's crap.
If a reviewer don't like their game, then too bad. :P
Deal with it, Atari.

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I think they're actually in a legal battle with German mag claiming they reviewed the game based on a leaked/pirated copy.
No game should be reviewed if it's in Beta or a leaked/pirated copy.
It should be a legit copy of the game, which would be Version 1.0 of the game (or higher).
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark 2008 Thread
Post by: gpw11 on Saturday, July 05, 2008, 01:03:29 PM
What  I read on this gave me the impression that a review came out like immediately after the game shipped, meaning either they didn't actually play the whole thing or they reviewed a pre-release version. Atari jumped all over that. Furthermore, many stores broke the street date, getting the game in more reviewers hands before the actual game was 'released' and Atari threatened them all as well. 

But it really is all over the board, especially the ign/gamespot which is usually pretty close.
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark 2008 Thread
Post by: Xessive on Saturday, July 05, 2008, 02:27:11 PM
I've heard all sorts of things about the game but two things seem to be consistent among the reviewers:

1) The controls, specifically combat & driving, are shite!
2) The graphics are pretty good.
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark 2008 Thread
Post by: MysterD on Sunday, July 06, 2008, 06:19:28 AM
I've heard all sorts of things about the game but two things seem to be consistent among the reviewers:

1) The controls, specifically combat & driving, are shite!
2) The graphics are pretty good.

Yeah, that's basically the consensus from all the  reviews, pretty much.

I think that means Eden needs to patch this thing and fix the driving, combat, and the wonky controls. :P
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark 2008 Thread
Post by: MysterD on Friday, July 18, 2008, 06:08:00 PM
Looks like Zero Punctuation's Yahtzee had a field day with this game  (http://www.joystiq.com/2008/07/18/zero-punctuation-unleashes-the-fury-on-alone-in-the-dark/)
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark 2008 Thread
Post by: MysterD on Sunday, August 17, 2008, 01:53:11 PM
SpoonyOne gives his long rant on how bad AITD 2008 is.
You gotta' hear and watch this.

Makes me just wanna get the game to see if it really is THAT bad on the PC, when it hits like $10 or less.

Part 1 -- 9 mins 38 secs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ob5rIV0ZRvo)
Part 2 -- 9 mins 55 secs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=br1-_yUYY4o)

Title: Re: Alone in the Dark 2008 Thread
Post by: gpw11 on Sunday, August 17, 2008, 11:42:21 PM
Who the fuck?!
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark 2008 Thread
Post by: Xessive on Monday, August 18, 2008, 08:14:23 AM
It was mildly entertaining :D

If the game is as SpoonyOne described then it is something I'd much rather avoid.
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark 2008 Thread
Post by: MysterD on Monday, August 18, 2008, 02:17:36 PM
I think it's a much more vicious review (for the most part) compared to what the critics have said.
But, yeah -- sounds like a train wreck.
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark 2008 Thread
Post by: Cobra951 on Monday, August 18, 2008, 02:28:08 PM
This one (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alone_in_the_Dark_(video_game)) was the groundbreaker.  No attempt at a sequel or remake since has impressed me.
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark 2008 Thread
Post by: Quemaqua on Monday, August 18, 2008, 05:01:23 PM
Supposedly the game actually had a few brilliant moments, they were just completely outweighed by the bad parts.  Though some seem to hate it a good deal less than others.  I think it would have at least been a passable game if it'd spent a little more time in the cooker.
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark 2008 Thread
Post by: MysterD on Monday, August 18, 2008, 06:24:31 PM
Supposedly the game actually had a few brilliant moments, they were just completely outweighed by the bad parts.  Though some seem to hate it a good deal less than others.  I think it would have at least been a passable game if it'd spent a little more time in the cooker.

You know, sometimes I wonder about these dev's and/or publishers, just pushing their game in (basically Alpha or Beta states) too far ahead of time, sometimes. You know, I look at how BP turned out w/ Patch 2.0, and I wonder how this game would've fared if that version is how BP was originally released, right out the box -- at least I can say, "This game is not broken." It's no STALKER, but still -- it's good.

I still look at Gothic 3, which seems to have a good game buried underneath it all, but even after its latest Community Patch, still with its stuttering issues and long loads -- and I can't put up with them; Still. And that's a goddamn shame.

I'm sure that the DVD-style fast-forward feature must be great in AITD 2008, when things might happen to say...get dull. The whole tree-ramming thing for 2 hours that dude in the video mentioned sounds like.....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....Okay, sorry...I'm awake now...

You know, I do like the sound of the inventory and being able to combine -- well, just about -- anything together into some sort of weapon.

Though, from the sound of things, an option to pause the game when manipulating the inventory or something might've been a good idea -- at least have that as an option for any "easier" difficulties in the game (if there are any). Maybe the most hardcore difficulty, not allow pausing. Hell, I dunno...

Say if the game has any Achievements, make a special Achievement for "No Using Pause When Manipulating The Inventory" or something -- hell, I dunno!

But, if the gameplay and physics are really that bad w/ the vehicles, they can do what Boiling Point did -- rework the game engine and release a patch to fix the physics. I don't know how the physics in BP were BEFORE the 2.0 patch, but they sure were fine after it -- as I bought BP damn cheap and that patch 2.0 was already out.

Yeah -- if Eden Games wants to save any face for this game, after the severe backlash it has pretty much gotten, a patch to fix issues galore might be a good start -- even if the game never sells another copy. And even if it's already too late, since it won't to fix a broken game when say Eden comes up with another game; at least gamers can say, "Well, at least they will actually support their own games with patches for their fans -- I'll buy their game, when it's patched" instead of saying "I ain't buying a game from them; they don't fix their own broken games."
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark 2008 Thread
Post by: gpw11 on Tuesday, August 19, 2008, 12:04:54 AM
At first I was like "who the fuck is this guy?!" and then I was all like "why the fuck is he reviewing this?  This shit got all shot up to hell at least a month ago - there's nothing new to say". Finally, I was all like "Holy shit! Kids with greasy hair still wear it in that stupid style the guy in front of me in Bio 11 did!!".

Let me tell you; EMOTIONAL ROLLER COASTER
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark 2008 Thread
Post by: PyroMenace on Tuesday, August 19, 2008, 12:07:31 AM
Wait... so who is he?
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark 2008 Thread
Post by: gpw11 on Tuesday, August 19, 2008, 12:52:14 AM
I don't know...some youtube douche?
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark 2008 Thread
Post by: MysterD on Thursday, September 04, 2008, 06:29:14 PM
So, I've been playing this one -- and yes, I do like it, despite some complaints.

First off, the KB/mouse is....eh. This game's meant for a gamepad -- I'm using the X360 gamepad. No gamepad, dunno' why you'd wanna play this one on the KB/mouse. It's just very awkward w/ the KB/mouse -- b/c we're used to using the mouse for camera; and the mouse don't control that. Mouse controls the direction you swing -- and that's just weird b/c the cam doesn't move along w/ you.

Plus, the game feels like a cross b/t in gameplay Silent Hill (survival horror) and PoP (platforming elements and jumping elements). That is basically when the game is at its best and shines really good.

Basically, you don't use a button to swing a weapon you equip in this game. With a KB/mouse, that's the mouse's job. With the gamepad, you use the right analog stick -- and you swing an equipped weapon moving that. Likely, you'll hit the button to lock onto an enemy and then just quickly move the analog stick whatever way you want to swing. You can move while swinging, but that's awkward -- and really no need to that. You're best off locking on, standing still, swing/fire. It does have bit of a curve to learn, but I have gotten used to it.
 
The Inventory is design quite cool -- but yeah, it'd really benefit (especially for new players to the game who ain't used to the controls and whatnot) where the game itself pauses entirely when you go in there, since it isn't instant that you can manipulate the Inventory without getting pounded.

The car level I'm on now is ridiculously tough. You basically make one bad turn or hit an object, level's over. This feels like this level is like the stealth ones in BG&E, where the game's challenge went from not-so-hard to ridiculously hard b/c you have to be perfect to make it through. Also, the physics for the car ain't very good, either -- barely tapping the pad basically turns the car way too easy. This level keeps it up, I'm gonna use the DVD skipping feature and move onto the next level.

The story (so far), presentation values, voice-acting, and music are all pretty good.

EDIT:
I made it through that tough-as-nails driving level - Ep 2, Part 5. Yay.
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark 2008 Thread
Post by: MysterD on Sunday, September 14, 2008, 04:25:05 PM
Eden Games is working on the PS3 version of AITD 2008, which adds news content to the game AND fixes a bunch of issues from earlier version of the game (PC and X360). (http://www.joystiq.com/2008/09/12/eden-cant-promise-ps3-alone-in-the-dark-fixes-for-360/)

Eden did plan to bring these fixes to X360 in a patch, but they've ran into some issues with releasing it as DLC b/c Microsoft don't like its possible patch size.

Hmmm...Maybe there will be a patch X360 version re-released in stores? I dunno.

It's unknown if the PC version will get the fixes; I hope so. It's probably more likely to happen than say the X360 version of the game, since Eden and Atari could release a PC patch on their own, regardless of its size.

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Eden 'can't promise' PS3 Alone in the Dark fixes for 360

30 Comments by Randy Nelson Sep 12th 2008 9:00PM
Filed under: Sony PlayStation 3, Microsoft Xbox 360, Action, Adventure

Remember all those new features Eden is working into the PS3 release of Alone in the Dark? Oh, or how, upon announcing them, the developer also said they'd be arriving as a patch for the Xbox 360 version? (http://www.joystiq.com/2008/08/21/eden-bringing-alone-in-the-dark-ps3-fixes-to-360-with-patch/) Now the tune has hit a sour note, according to MTV Multiplayer.

Game designer Emile Morel says that Eden is, "Trying to do a patch," but that "it's technically complicated," saying that, if anything, the control and camera fixes will be implemented; don't expect the new subway chase sequence in the PS3 release to show up.

There's evidently also an issue with the actual estimated size of the patch not sitting too well with Microsoft.

So now it's not only a case of if the patch will happen but when. Morel says that the decision to patch or not to patch might actually depend on the success of the PS3 version, and that the team probably won't get around to working on it until the release for Sony's machine goes gold.



Title: Re: Alone in the Dark 2008 Thread
Post by: Xessive on Monday, September 15, 2008, 02:46:01 PM
Oh God, they're gonna implement the SIXAXIS motion sensing into the melee combat, aren't they? I hope not.

If there's an option to make a patch that fixes the game on the 360 Microsoft should allow it. If it's particularly huge (like a total overhaul) then they should implement it in a new package and provide it free for anyone who owns the game; just like The Witcher: Enhanced.
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark 2008 Thread
Post by: MysterD on Monday, September 15, 2008, 05:04:08 PM
If there's an option to make a patch that fixes the game on the 360 Microsoft should allow it. If it's particularly huge (like a total overhaul) then they should implement it in a new package and provide it free for anyone who owns the game; just like The Witcher: Enhanced.
Amen to that.
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark 2008 Thread
Post by: MysterD on Friday, October 10, 2008, 09:08:16 PM
Alone in the Dark 2008, with all its fixes and everything, will have a new subtitle for its debut on the PS3.
Alone In The Dark: Inferno is what it'll be called. (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3170555)

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Alone in the Dark PS3 Getting New Title To Match Improvements
Atari promises to address gamers' complaints for "Inferno."
By Jonathan Fincher, 10/10/2008

When Alone in the Dark was released a few months back, it fell pretty well short of our expectations. While the fire dynamics and elaborate set pieces set the game apart from other survival horror titles, they were hampered by nagging design flaws and control issues -- check out 1UP's review of the 360 version for full details on that. Luckily though, Atari has not turned a blind eye to these issues when it comes to the upcoming PS3 port of the game. The company has announced that the next version of the game is addressing so many of the original release's known problems that it warrants a new title: Alone in the Dark: Inferno.

Inferno's many fixes include free camera movement, an improved inventory system that actually pauses the game when you check it, and even a new sequence in the game that debuts a brand new enemy. Other options and levels will be tweaked, including the infamously frustrating 59th Street car racing sequence.

Of course, a lot of these have been mentioned before -- in 1UP's own preview for instance -- but it's nice to hear that they really seem to have a feel for what's wrong and how to correct it. Fortunately, Atari has also confirmed that these fixes -- though probably not the extra action sequence -- will be available in a patch for the 360 version. I doubt that would encourage many people to give the game a second go, but at least they're taking steps to fix some glaring problems.

Yeah, so that's great and all for the X360 and PS3 versions -- that they'll definitely be fixed and whatnot.
But, the PC version better get these fixes in a patch, too. I sure could use it.

Though, what they really need to do, is fix that Roots level (next to last chapter) -- which has to be one of the most ridiculously boring levels in the history of gaming. It just sucks and is tedious as can be.
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark 2008 Thread
Post by: Quemaqua on Friday, October 10, 2008, 09:16:18 PM
Huh... that's actually kind of cool.  I heard enough about the game that it seemed worth seeing, and now I just might make that leap.
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark 2008 Thread
Post by: MysterD on Friday, October 10, 2008, 09:46:52 PM
Huh... that's actually kind of cool.  I heard enough about the game that it seemed worth seeing, and now I just might make that leap.
I'm watching some vids, where Eden Games shows off some of the new changes to the camera, inventory system, and controls (namely to the PS3 version).

Basically, it sounds like they are tackling ALL of my concerns in this AITD: Inferno version.

Other things to notes:
--Batteries are GONE (for the Flashlight).
Flashlight has now unlimited usage, so you'll have one more space for Inventory open to store junk.
--52nd Street (Car Race):
This level has taken many people ridiculous tries to finish; over 30, in many instances -- b/c one mistake and you're toast. That's if they finished it; many have skipped over this level. It took me like an hour to get through it, myself.
This level has checkpoints now; you can finish the level now with making mistakes actually; fissure speed has been slowed down (so the racing the fissure cracks isn't so ridiculously hard); car physics been drastically improved.
--Root Burning
Is now explained to you in Episode 3 (instead of Episode 7). Root burning can be done throughout the entire game after Episode 3, when you're actually in an episode in Central Park INSTEAD of it must be entirely done in the Episode 7 only (in which all this root burning must be done to unlock the next Final Episodes); since you do have to burn a lot of roots to finish the game. This makes WAY more sense now, so you won't be running around forever in ONE Episode, to just burn the roots -- which can take you a LONG TIME and can be tediously BORING, if you do it all at ONCE. (Some people have spent over 3 hours to finish this Episode 7, Sequence 1). What they are changing to this is a good plan, as you can do it here and there and not all at once. Lessening the amount of roots to burn would've been a good idea, too -- but their solution sounds just fine to me.

AITD: Inferno - Improvement Videos
Vid 1 - Game Improvements: Cam, Inventory, Etc. (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/39994.html)
Vid 2 - Driving Improvements and 32nd Street Level improvements (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/39996.html)
Vid 3 - Root Burning Fixes (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/40000.html)

All these fixes will probably turn this game into the game it should've been in the first place.
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark 2008 Thread
Post by: Xessive on Saturday, October 11, 2008, 05:11:37 AM
Drastic improvements but as you said that's how it should have been to begin with. I really hope they make patches for the PC and X360 versions. I have a PS3 so I'm not too worried about a patch but I really symapthize with anyone who bought the game in its previous state.
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark 2008 Thread
Post by: MysterD on Saturday, October 11, 2008, 06:58:00 AM
Drastic improvements but as you said that's how it should have been to begin with. I really hope they make patches for the PC and X360 versions.
The concern was the X360 wasn't going to get the Inferno patch b/c Microsoft was complaining about the patch size over XB Live -- b/c it was going to include the fixes also the new extra content (which Eden is not revealing much about yet). So, it looks like at least the X360 version just get the fixes/improvements -- and not the brand new extra content.

Which really, more than anything, this game just needs the fixes. The game deserves the fixes.

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I have a PS3 so I'm not too worried about a patch but I really symapthize with anyone who bought the game in its previous state.
I bought it cheap for the PC, so... :P

At full price, yeah -- I'd sympathize. It's not a horrible game entirely, as there's a lot here to like, actually. There's a lot of great stuff here, to say the least. It's just a lot of the great stuff is majorly overshadowed b/c of the handful of design issues that are there are very, very glaring bad.

The PC version, all it needs is the fixes, honestly. Sure, the extra brand new content would be nice and all -- since we can just DL the patches ourselves here and really won't have to worry about patch size here on the PC, Atari's and Eden's servers would have to worry about that -- but I just really want the glaring issues to be fixed, more than anything.

Title: Re: Alone in the Dark 2008 Thread
Post by: MysterD on Friday, November 28, 2008, 06:12:21 AM
PS3 version - Alone in the Dark: Inferno reviews
B- from 1UP (http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3171460&p=37)
7.25 from GameInformer (http://gameinformer.com/NR/exeres/2FCEE9A8-1989-42D1-AFE8-49BD7F7E69E8.htm)
7.0 from Eurogamer (http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=307402)
70% from Play UK (http://www.play-mag.co.uk/ps3/games/alone_in_the_dark_inferno/alone_in_the_dark_inferno.html)

Here's the deal w/ these reviews, to sum it up -- pretty much, they're all on the same page.
This PS3 is the best version of Eden's AIDT right now.
They all are glad Eden fixed the gameplay issues, which definitely improved the gameplay itself.
Most think the story is passable, though.
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark 2008 Thread
Post by: Xessive on Friday, November 28, 2008, 07:09:35 AM
With all that work the best they could muster was an average of 70%.. At least that's better than a mediocre 50% due to gameplay problems and bugs.

I played the demo a while back and it was alright. The controls were much better than what I remember of the 360 version I tried before.
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark 2008 Thread
Post by: MysterD on Friday, December 19, 2008, 06:07:18 PM
I actually finished this on the PC tonight. I saw 2 different endings...

The Two Different Endings
(click to show/hide)

All in all, this game could've been really good -- but yeah, in the end, the major design issues and major flaws drag it down to basically being just decent. The game does have its great moments -- yet, it also has too many horrible moments, too.

The PC version really could use the fixes that the PS3 version of AITD: Inferno has -- that'd probably be the best thing to happen. Did the X360 version of AITD get the fixes thrown patched into it yet?

Regardless, time to free-up some 8 GB worth of HD space.