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Community => General Discussion => Topic started by: Pugnate on Sunday, November 30, 2014, 01:17:23 AM
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http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/nov/29/letter-to-girl-accused-me-of-rape
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I remember a sex-ed teacher in 7th grade warning us about this. She said something along the lines of, "Imagine that you and your girlfriend are fooling around and her father catches the both of you. Embarrassed and frightened, the girl cries out 'rape!' Sometimes, that's all it takes to have your life ruined". It's somewhat irrelevant now at my age and social situation, but it stuck with me throughout my teens and twenties.
I also think that immaturity and situations like this are the reason for statutory rape and child pornography laws, but I wish there was a relative age component to the laws. Some 18 year old's life shouldn't be ruined because his 17 year old girlfriend sent him a sext, but it's happened.
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Tough to read. Rape is an awful reality, and should be justly punished, but I'll never understand how things have gotten so convoluted that we can't find the difference between one thing and another. I guess in some cases, it really is hard to tell the difference. But stories like this are definitely too common.
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I remember a sex-ed teacher in 7th grade warning us about this. She said something along the lines of, "Imagine that you and your girlfriend are fooling around and her father catches the both of you. Embarrassed and frightened, the girl cries out 'rape!' Sometimes, that's all it takes to have your life ruined". It's somewhat irrelevant now at my age and social situation, but it stuck with me throughout my teens and twenties.
I also think that immaturity and situations like this are the reason for statutory rape and child pornography laws, but I wish there was a relative age component to the laws. Some 18 year old's life shouldn't be ruined because his 17 year old girlfriend sent him a sext, but it's happened.
Statutory-rape laws are almost as evil as the act itself, and certainly much more evil than the behavior of passionate, peaceful young people that they're criminalizing.
In Ohio, there's a 4-year rule. (Other states have similar laws.) An 18-year-old can fool around with someone up to 4 years younger before getting in trouble with morality witch hunters--at the state level. If some of this shit starts getting federal laws driven by feminazis, church ladies, and their supporters, I weep for our youth.
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Statutory-rape laws are almost as evil as the act itself, and certainly much more evil than the behavior of passionate, peaceful young people that they're criminalizing.
In Ohio, there's a 4-year rule. (Other states have similar laws.) An 18-year-old can fool around with someone up to 4 years younger before getting in trouble with morality witch hunters--at the state level. If some of this shit starts getting federal laws driven by feminazis, church ladies, and their supporters, I weep for our youth.
I can't see anything like a 4 year rule being repealed or overruled on a federal level - if anything I think it's more in line with the rest of the world and a bit more progressive than the alternative.....but who the fuck knows? The stat rape stories that I hear out of the states are ridiculous in some cases.
This thing? I don't know - seems like something was left out, but who knows? In either case, go google Shia Labeouf and rape and come back here - we have a matter to discuss.
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Okay, that's fucked up. First off, the only way I can see a man getting raped as a man completely against his will is by a drug injection directly into the glans penis. Otherwise his brain has to consent at some level or other. Then there's the matter of credibility. The alleged rapist did not have accomplices pinning down LaBeouf. Her boyfriend was allegedly outside the door. She whipped his legs for 10 minutes? And what was this young, muscular guy doing for those 10 minutes, cowering and whimpering "mommy! mommy!"? And this was a public venue, with other people participating, two of whom "intervened", while a crowd was just beyond this scene? The whole thing as it stands is beyond belief. I'm not going to go there and "blame the victim". I'll just conclude that the story needs more verification and clarification before I can pass judgement on it.
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He was doing some art thing where he was completely motionless I believe.
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So he chose to let whatever happens happen?
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I can't remember the complete story, but Shia Labeuf was I guess just your average celebrity actor that people loved to hate until he did something weird - I think it was copy some graphic novel frame for frame into a short movie and put it in a festival, without permission from the original author. Blah blah blah, public backlash people people care way too much about shit like this and there's more attention on him, he get's weird or it's all of a sudden obvious that he's weird. We wrote an apology letter to the guy, which in turn was also plagiarized (I think this is hilarious), which pissed off more people. He started wearing a paper bag on his head in public appearances with apologies written on it, etc. Whatever, he's weird or he's an artist - who the fuck cares.
So then, he puts on this performance art show, which basically translates to "anyone doing anything anywhere and just deciding to call it performance art instead of what they're actually doing" which consisted of him sitting in a room with a bag on his head and members of the public entering to interact with him, although he wouldn't actually do anything - just sit there. Some people thought it was brilliant - every single one of those people has a liberal arts degree and thinks too much about things most people don't think about. Before entering this room, you get to pick an item (one of which being a whip) to take in with you and do whatever with.
So, chick picks up a whip, whips him, fucks him I guess, and then leaves. He later says it was rape. Piers Morgan and some other people say "You know, I don't know if that's actually rape" and people jump out of the woodwork because you can never EVER victim blame and rape isn't what you get to say it is. That's how this story got my attention, an article about how this is rape and to deny that is to deny the possibility that a man can be raped and BLAH BLAH FUCKING BLAH TOO MUCH TIME ON MY HANDS BLAH.
And here's the thing. HERE IS THE FUCKING THING - "Men's right's activists" or "MRAs", who I personally think are the most misguided loose affiliation of people ever, are right on that side. Piers Morgan is a fucking clown but he has a point - if you're going to define what went on here as rape, you're kind of diluting the meaning of the word, which kinda has implications. I don't know if I really give a shit about that all BUT HERE'S THE REAL FUCKING THING: The internet has enabled an entire sub culture of people being complete pussies. This weird whirlwind of people being offended and appalled totally ignores the fact that this dude was pretty much sitting there with a bag over his head and just let it fucking happen for the sake of art. He acts like he was raped because he was forced to make the choice between going along with his art project and, you know, doing something to prevent an event from happening to him or to ...stop it or something.
The obvious defense to that is "Lack of consent is the same as rape", which, sure, makes sense (commas motherfucker). I'm sure there are many situations of legitimate rape where people didn't put up a fight, but it seems like the next logical question to "So, you didn't do anything - physically or verbally - to indicate that this was unwanted?" would be "why?" A legitimate answer could be that you were scared you were going to get your throat slit or your face punched off. No wanting to compromise the sanctity of your art would be a completely illegitimate answer. It seems pretty simple and I have no idea why so many people just can't grasp it...especially in the joke situations like this one.
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... faith in humanity = zero.
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The part with the plagiarized apology was hilarious. I seriously thought he was a genius trolling people at that stage.
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. . . he get's weird or it's all of a sudden obvious that he's weird. . . .
So then, he puts on this performance art show, which basically translates to "anyone doing anything anywhere and just deciding to call it performance art instead of what they're actually doing" which consisted of him sitting in a room with a bag on his head and members of the public entering to interact with him, although he wouldn't actually do anything - just sit there. Some people thought it was brilliant - every single one of those people has a liberal arts degree and thinks too much about things most people don't think about. Before entering this room, you get to pick an item (one of which being a whip) to take in with you and do whatever with.
So, chick picks up a whip, whips him, fucks him I guess, and then leaves. . . .
So, a weirdo acting weird had weird shit happen to him. No surprises then. Seek, and you shall find.
And here's the thing. HERE IS THE FUCKING THING - "Men's right's activists" or "MRAs", who I personally think are the most misguided loose affiliation of people ever, are right on that side. Piers Morgan is a fucking clown but he has a point - if you're going to define what went on here as rape, you're kind of diluting the meaning of the word, which kinda has implications. I don't know if I really give a shit about that all BUT HERE'S THE REAL FUCKING THING: The internet has enabled an entire sub culture of people being complete pussies. This weird whirlwind of people being offended and appalled totally ignores the fact that this dude was pretty much sitting there with a bag over his head and just let it fucking happen for the sake of art. He acts like he was raped because he was forced to make the choice between going along with his art project and, you know, doing something to prevent an event from happening to him or to ...stop it or something.
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Well, somebody has to challenge this new "intolerance against 'intolerance' is righteous" repressive mentality of militant liberals, even if it's a loose association of people, some of which will be asshats. Intolerance against different philosophies of life is never righteous. They can be as offended and appalled as they want, as long as they don't come telling me what not to do, or shutting down choices.
https://www.change.org/p/target-withdraw-grand-theft-auto-5-this-sickening-game-encourages-players-to-commit-sexual-violence-and-kill-women
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/12/03/target-australia-refuses-to-sell-gta-5
Now I HAVE to buy this game again, for the new gen. It's a GAME, pussies!
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Has this shown up on our forums anywhere before?
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I believe Rob Cantor is imitating Orson Welles's Mercury Theater on the Air too. Weirdness all around.
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Haha