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Offline scottws

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Amazon's recommendations are stupid
« on: Tuesday, November 13, 2007, 05:18:25 PM »
I was bored and decided to improve my Amazon recommendations.  So I'm going through it.  The movie Aliens is on there.  This is probably my favorite action movie of all time, I rate it 5 starts and check that I own it.  I refresh.  Now I see Alien.  I give that one 4 starts and say I own it.  Now I see Alien 3, Alien Resurrection, Alien Two Disc Collector's Edition, Alien Quadrilogy, Aliens (Special Edition), Aliens Two- Disc Collector's Edition, etc.

Hello!  I already have Alien and Aliens!  Why in the fuck do you think I want to re-buy all that shit?!  Alien 3 and the quadrilogy I understand, but the collector's and special editions of movies I already own?!

It's just as bad with video games and their various editions.  I marked that I owned Quake 4 and liked it and then it recommends Quake 4 (Special Edition).  Mark F.E.A.R. and F.E.A.R.: Extraction Point and I'm confronted with F.E.A.R. Gold.  Retarded.

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Re: Amazon's recommendations are stupid
« Reply #1 on: Sunday, December 18, 2011, 08:28:57 AM »
I see that they have not improved this since I created this thread four years ago.  All of my recommendations are for different versions of stuff I already own, games I left on my wish list from several years ago, and things closely related to things I bought.  I've bought a bunch of Rayovac rechargeable batteries from Amazon and my recommendations list is full of different kinds and brands of rechargeable batteries and battery chargers.

They also don't seem to be able to identify between things I bought for myself and things I bought as a gift for a kid.  No, I don't want some megaphone voice changer thing.

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Re: Amazon's recommendations are stupid
« Reply #2 on: Sunday, December 18, 2011, 09:27:50 AM »
For some reason all I could think of was this.

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Re: Amazon's recommendations are stupid
« Reply #3 on: Sunday, December 18, 2011, 12:53:32 PM »
It's probably some robo-grouping thing that works the same way for every item and category.  It would be nice if a competent human being hand-picked that stuff for you.  Not happening.

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Re: Amazon's recommendations are stupid
« Reply #4 on: Monday, December 19, 2011, 11:53:50 PM »
Still better than Netflix's recommendations

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Re: Amazon's recommendations are stupid
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday, December 20, 2011, 05:29:19 AM »
With Netflix the problem is that a family shares one account, so a family's individuals' differing tastes messes up the ratings predictor and recommendations.  Netflix supports separate profiles under one account that you can set up, but it is fairly useless because the primary account is the only one that can do streaming and you need at least two discs for the other profile to be worth anything.  Still, once I set up a separate profile and rated movies how I liked them rather than some being rated by me and some by Jennie, I found that the rating system on my profile did align pretty well with my tastes.  The real problem was that I'd have to constantly be logging out of my profile and into Jennie's to actually do anything.

Personally, I find that Amazon's recommendations are far worse.  I think maybe if I started actually using my wishlist and put things that I actually want but would probably not buy from Amazon that it would help.  Stuff like TVs and home theater receivers.  Instead of "Hey you bought some games, movies, books, and batteries from us, that must be all you like.  Let me show you an infinite number of variations of these things you already own."  I've spent hours in the past on Amazon's site in the "Fix your recommendations" setting, but it really doesn't do much good.  Sure, it gets rid of things I do not care about, but only because I marked those specific things "Not interested".  The biggest help would be if they could mark products as extremely similar and not recommend them if you already own one of the similar products.  I already have the StarCraft: Battlechest.  I do not need or want StarCraft or StarCraft: Brood War.  At the same time, I don't like to mark stuff like that as "Not interested" because I love the original StarCraft.  I don't want them to get the idea that I wasn't a fan or something.  So in my recommendations that stuff sits.

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Re: Amazon's recommendations are stupid
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday, December 20, 2011, 09:19:41 AM »
With Netflix the problem is that a family shares one account, so a family's individuals' differing tastes messes up the ratings predictor and recommendations.  Netflix supports separate profiles under one account that you can set up, but it is fairly useless because the primary account is the only one that can do streaming and you need at least two discs for the other profile to be worth anything.  Still, once I set up a separate profile and rated movies how I liked them rather than some being rated by me and some by Jennie, I found that the rating system on my profile did align pretty well with my tastes.  The real problem was that I'd have to

This is really annoying. I also don't like how you can't remove movies from your viewing history. I don't need everybody to know that I'm watching a B-rated artsy practically-porno from France and don't want recommendations based on it.

I've found Amazon recommendations to actually be pretty good but that's probably because from Canada all I can buy is books and movies and they tend not to have multiple editions in the same way as games.

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Re: Amazon's recommendations are stupid
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday, December 20, 2011, 01:13:50 PM »
This is really annoying. I also don't like how you can't remove movies from your viewing history. I don't need everybody to know that I'm watching a B-rated artsy practically-porno from France and don't want recommendations based on it.
The worst was when I watched a B-movie practically porno and Jennie got an e-mail asking how the video quality of the movie was.  Good times.