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Title: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Pugnate on Thursday, April 12, 2007, 07:21:43 AM
For shame!

It is pretty nifty the PSP is. Has so many functions that I don't need and won't use, like video and mp3 playback... but cool none the less. Also wi fi is pretty cool, but again what am I going to do with it?

I got a few games including Daxter, Tekken: Dark Resurrection, Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops, Burnout Legends and Liberty Stories. I really wanted Lumines II, but they only had Lumines I so I wait.

Overall I am more than pleased. :)
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: nickclone on Thursday, April 12, 2007, 07:24:37 AM
Well...you fucked up. Luckily, the PSP is the best for emulation and warez. As long as you don't buy any games for it you should be ok with it.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Pugnate on Thursday, April 12, 2007, 07:34:20 AM
hahahaha... I am just laughing at 'you fucked up'.

Well they said they will buy the PSP at $35 less whenever I am done with it. I got the games mostly used but in excellent condition.

I also got a 2GB disc.

But yea I will pick up a DS eventually.

Also I am considering installing DevHOOK 1.31
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: angrykeebler on Thursday, April 12, 2007, 08:12:03 AM
Die in a fire.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Pugnate on Thursday, April 12, 2007, 08:35:00 AM
:(
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: angrykeebler on Thursday, April 12, 2007, 08:56:23 AM
:(

damn right
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Pugnate on Thursday, April 12, 2007, 09:09:23 AM
hahaha
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: K-man on Thursday, April 12, 2007, 10:04:18 AM
Get Lumines.  That game is the only reason I kept mine as long as I did.  I know Lumines 2 is available, but its not Lumines 1.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: idolminds on Thursday, April 12, 2007, 10:08:34 AM
I kind of want a PSP myself. Its just a shame the battery life isnt that great. I'd love to play Pirates! and Lumines on car trips. Plus all the emulators and such would be awesome.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Cobra951 on Thursday, April 12, 2007, 10:11:26 AM
I'm not sure about the status of the battle between Sony's firmware updates and the hackers responses.  Last I heard, Sony had even tried modifying the motherboard itself to prevent hacked firmware.  Emulation and piracy were the only things going for the PSP last time I dealt with the system.  Does your PSP have the latest hardware & firmware?  Can it actually handle DevHook?
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Pugnate on Thursday, April 12, 2007, 11:25:46 AM
It has the latest firmware and it is handling devhook beautifully. I am so happy with this! I can't believe a handheld can be so awesome. I have been at Virtua Tennis for the past five hours! On the PSP! Awesome stuff. :D
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Pugnate on Thursday, April 12, 2007, 11:53:29 AM
Also I had a question. I haven't purchased Lumines yet. Is the first one really better than the second, or is it a case of don't buy the second if you have the first? I don't have either, so I naturally assumed that Lumines 2 would be the logical choice despite having scored lower.

Was it GPW who loved Disgaea? It is finally hitting the PSP says GSPOT (http://www.gamespot.com/psp/strategy/disgaeaportable/news.html?sid=6168341&mode=previews)
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: TheOtherBelmont on Thursday, April 12, 2007, 12:16:21 PM
I liked Disgaea, Pug and I think Que and/or Sy liked it too.  Also consider picking up Loco Roco, that game is so awesome, I highly enjoyed playing it when my brother brought his PSP over to my place.  Mercury is another neat puzzle game and you might want to check that one out at some point too.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Pugnate on Thursday, April 12, 2007, 01:51:05 PM
Cool thanks! :)

edit:

Anyone recommend a good video to PSP format converter?
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: iPPi on Thursday, April 12, 2007, 02:49:57 PM
I would say that generally speaking, you're going to regret buying a PSP.  I have one and it sits there collecting dust.  I used to play it quite a bit, but at this point, it does not see much use.

Pug, check out pspvideo9.  It will convert almost any movie file you have to MPEG4 or the other PSP format.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Pugnate on Thursday, April 12, 2007, 03:16:33 PM
The only thing I am regretting currently is the pain in my thumbs. I was playing the thing for six hours straight and my thumbs hurt at the base.

Well they have a new God of War game coming as well for the PSP. Hope that is good. :P
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Cobra951 on Thursday, April 12, 2007, 04:13:07 PM
I'd definitely get Lumines one way or another.   :P  The 2nd is very good, but it does not upstage the 1st in playability.  The game itself is still pretty much the same.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Quemaqua on Thursday, April 12, 2007, 08:12:17 PM
Yeah, Get the original Lumines.  And Loco Roco definitely, I play the hell out of that one and love every minute of it.  Wipeout Pure is damned good for portable a racer, as is the PSP version of Test Drive Unlimited (see the TDU thread where I go into more detail).  I'd say either of those are worth a purchase.

But yeah, without emulation and such I wouldn't use my PSP half as much.  As it stands, I use it almost constantly for file transfer and for SNES/Genesis/PS1 games.  And, with the addition of Loco and TDU, I've even got some games to play.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: idolminds on Thursday, April 12, 2007, 08:59:15 PM
I totally forgot you can play PS1 games on the thing. Hmmm....$160 is looking pretty tempting now.

zomg, theres a nethack port....
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: gpw11 on Thursday, April 12, 2007, 10:13:30 PM
6 months ago I'd say that you made a horrible choice, but now I think you made the right one.  I don't own either system, but I was reading a few threads on digg - a place that was 100% pro DS a while ago and noticed that the tide had changed a bit. 

The DS has some great first party games and a few good third party ones, but from what I gather it's much like an actual nintendo console in that respect - what's good is great, but there aren't a ton of good games coming out in a timely fashion.  The actual official releases for the PSP isn't any better (actually, it's aparently quite a bit worse), but that's not the strength of the system from the consumer standpoint - the strength is the homebrew.

I'll take a portable system that plays homebrew, psx, snes, nes, genesis/mega drive, GB, GBA, and whatever other games on it over one that just plays DS games any day. 

And no, I've never played Disagea or however you spell it, but I have played Valkerye Profile, and it is great.  Pick that one up or emulate it. 
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Quemaqua on Thursday, April 12, 2007, 11:21:43 PM
The Nethack port sucks.  Too many commands for too little buttons.  I couldn't figure out how to do hardly anything just because it was so convoluted.  It's really a nice port otherwise, too.  And I didn't try very hard, really... maybe you'd have better luck.

And I thought homebrew wasn't possible on the most recent firmwares?  Everything I've read recently said there were still no ways to downgrade with the more recent stuff.  And you have to be careful after the motherboard switch, too, as I hear trying some of the usual tricks will brick it.

And yes, I'm looking very, very forward to Disgaea.  I loved the PS2 game but never got super far just because there's so much crap you can do and it's so easy to get distracted.  I kept thinking it would make a great portable game because then I'd have more opportunity to fuck with it... so yeah, I absolutely can't wait for that to come out.

But in the end, I'd say the DS still wins by a landslide as a gaming platform.  The PSP truly sucks right now in that department and the DS has absolute gobs of games that I want to play by comparison.  The only thing that saves the PSP is the homebrew capability.  Without that, it loses the fight by a landslide.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: gpw11 on Friday, April 13, 2007, 12:57:41 AM
Even if it's new there is a good chance he has an older version of the firmware isn't there? 
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Pugnate on Friday, April 13, 2007, 01:27:12 AM
Well I went to a hole in the wall where they install mod chips and hacks and stuff this morning. They installed the latest Dev Hook despite my PSP having the latest firmware and they installed some software that allows me to go back and forth between 3.11 and 1.5.

I'll probably pick up a DS in a month or so. One thing is that I don't have a playstation so some of those PS games I can experience on the PSP.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Quemaqua on Friday, April 13, 2007, 06:28:14 AM
Even if it's new there is a good chance he has an older version of the firmware isn't there? 

Maybe where he lives.  Not around here.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Pugnate on Friday, April 13, 2007, 08:34:12 AM
The hack has an option to switch to firmware 1.5 when I want. What is the advantage of that? What isn't compatible with this that is compatible with 1.5?
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Pugnate on Friday, April 13, 2007, 09:50:20 AM
Hey can anyone recommend some decent places for PSP movie trailers download? I've tried a few places but they seem to have low rez stuff. Also I'd appreciate a link to a site with PSP wallpapers.

edit: sorry about the double post.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: angrykeebler on Friday, April 13, 2007, 10:04:04 AM
sorry about the double post.

Unacceptable. Go hang yourself RIGHT NOW.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Cobra951 on Friday, April 13, 2007, 10:09:39 AM
 ;D

Before the successful hacked firmwares, 1.5 was the only way to have a fully open US-spec system.  There's a major exploit which allows anything to be run, even in kernel (system) mode.

I'm quite out of touch with the PSP scene.  I bet you if you type "PSP wallpaper" into Google or your favorite engine, you'll get a plethora of hits.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: idolminds on Friday, April 13, 2007, 10:55:31 AM
Pug, I made a PSP wallpaper for me you. click! (http://user.mc.net/~pbsmith/pics/psp-wall.jpg)
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: HxCeddie on Friday, April 13, 2007, 11:58:01 AM
Whenever I get back home, we should play metal gear online!
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Pugnate on Friday, April 13, 2007, 12:42:24 PM
Unacceptable. Go hang yourself RIGHT NOW.

Alright. Let me just put this will together... Let's see now... My 8800GTX goes to Cobra so he can truly enjoy Oblivion, the rest of my comp to GPW, my monitor to Scary_tooth, my PSP and my car to Xessive, my shaving kit to Idol, my porn collection to Que so that his wife kicks his ass when she finds it... oh and a goat should should be killed and its testicles sent to keebler, since we all know how much he loves to play with those.

BTW I just got around to watching some videos on the PSP. They look amazing. I just saw the Spider-Man 3 trailer... looks awesome! I am very happy with this gadget so far. :)

Oh and Idol I just saw your wallpaper. I studied it carefully for about five minutes. Then I studied it for five more.

edit:

Some awesome PSP downloads on Spider-Man 3:

http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/spiderman3/site/

Decent PSP wallpapers, both for kids and adults. Sexy women look very sexy on a psp.

http://www.pspwallpapers.com/

Movie Trailers: (Quality isn't bad, but I am trying to find better.)

http://www.movie-list.com/psp/

OK lots of high quality trailers:

http://www.sonypictures.com/previews/psp/index.html
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Quemaqua on Saturday, April 14, 2007, 12:05:50 AM
I still say Dark_Alex's hacked firmwares are the way to go.  Everything's integrated, works like a dream.  I just upgraded to 3.10 OE-A2 tonight.  Want to give Metal Slug Anthology a shot.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: PyroMenace on Saturday, April 14, 2007, 12:08:10 AM
Pug, I made a PSP wallpaper for me you. click! (http://user.mc.net/~pbsmith/pics/psp-wall.jpg)

whoa, do you know these jugs attached to that woman?
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: idolminds on Saturday, April 14, 2007, 12:11:12 AM
Sadly, no.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Pugnate on Saturday, April 14, 2007, 04:11:40 AM
Hey so what old school games are you guys playing on your PSP? I haven't been paying attention, though now I can. Any recommendations?

Also Idol., that sucks, though I would have wondered how managed to focus on the cleavage without earning a black eye.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Quemaqua on Saturday, April 14, 2007, 11:23:00 AM
Lately I'm playing a lot of Test Drive Unlimited for PSP and as of last night the Metal Slug Anthology (which is fucking awesome... Metal Slugs 1, 2, X, 3, 4, 5, and 6... all in one package with unlockable art and wallpapers and junk).  Still some Loco Roco, too.  Before that it was mostly just Wipeout Pure, Lumines, and lots of SNES stuff and some Genesis stuff (a lot of the latter I still can't get to work, which makes me sad).  Now I'm moving on to trying more PS1 games.  I played Silent Hill, Legend of Mana, some of Vagrant Story (which for some idiotic reason I still haven't been able to finish), Castlevania: SOTN, and am as we speak ripping the two PS Oddworld games.  Oh, and there's Sid Meier's Pirates! for the PSP which, while a little wonky with sound and graphics here and there, is an awesome port that plays perfectly.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Pugnate on Saturday, April 14, 2007, 11:34:55 AM
Damn forgot about LocoRoco. Got a hold of Mercury Rising which is pretty cool.

I tried Wipeout Pure and can't seem to get the hang of it. I also want to try Syphon Filter. Looks interesting.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: idolminds on Saturday, April 14, 2007, 12:12:30 PM
Geez, you're practically selling the PSP to me now. I forgot about LocoRoco, which I totally want. And portable Oddworld games would rule.

Grrrr.....

Oh yeah, and here is the full image (http://user.mc.net/~pbsmith/pics/1196114650.jpg) of that chick from the PSP wallpaper. Cant remember where I found it, and the URL in the bottom corner leads to a site that is currently down. Wish I could find more...
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Pugnate on Saturday, April 14, 2007, 12:16:29 PM
hehe anyone else like freckles? :)

Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Quemaqua on Saturday, April 14, 2007, 12:27:46 PM
I'm Irish.  Green eyes + red hair + freckles = sexiest thing in the whole world.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: idolminds on Saturday, April 14, 2007, 12:41:05 PM
After looking around, I think her name is "Ashley Robbins".
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Pugnate on Sunday, April 15, 2007, 09:26:08 AM
Hey the PSP is region free correct? I can purchase a game from Europe and play it on my US PSP?
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Cobra951 on Sunday, April 15, 2007, 09:38:47 AM
Sony?  Region free?  HA!  No, but games are usually not restricted.  UMD movies definitely are.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: idolminds on Sunday, April 15, 2007, 09:49:34 AM
Ohhh, I found a guide (http://forums.qj.net/f-guides-general-psp-42/t-determining-psp-firmware-using-box-codes-september-7-2006-28718.html) to finding out the PSP firmware before you buy it.

And according to a guide I found, you update to 3.03 (official) and then downgrade from there, but it requires an unpatched copy of GTA: Liberty City Stories. Will have to see how hard those are to track down.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Pugnate on Sunday, April 15, 2007, 09:51:43 AM
Mine has been flashed to a hacked version of 3.10

I am able to play anything from any period.

Anyway I bought the UK version of Lumines, and didn't go for Lumines II.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Quemaqua on Sunday, April 15, 2007, 10:18:36 AM
Are you actually using hacked firmware or did you get a modchip, Pug?  It sounded like you took it somewhere to have a chip installed from what you said befor.

Anyway, from the DAX 3.10 OE-A2 custom firmware (and probably the others, though I never looked) you can actually select a fake region if you have any need to do so, or even a "free region" mode.  It's a pretty brilliant piece of work.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Pugnate on Sunday, April 15, 2007, 10:29:21 AM
No they didn't install a mod chip. They just flashed the PSP with the DevHook's firmware flash. I hadn't done that before so I didn't want to try myself. I can find out what software it was exactly, but he said in the past you had to downgrade to 1.5 in order to play hacked titles, but with this I am pretty much able to do anything. I am still buying the games I really want though, but this will be useful for retro gaming.

I didn't even know they made a mod chip for the PSP.

Also so like you guys said, the UMD movies are locked by the games are region free:

Source (http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/25/psp-games-region-free-after-all-but-umd-movies-locked/)

Source 2 (http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2004Nov/bga20041101027648.htm)
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Quemaqua on Sunday, April 15, 2007, 11:04:21 AM
I just wasn't aware DevHook did any kind of flashing.  There's another couple of hacked firmwares but in my estimation they're all quite inferior to DAX's, which is why I was curious.  Haven't even heard of yours.  And yeah, there are at least 2 modchips with another supposedly being released on the 16th that'll supposedly work with the lower voltage motherboards from the newer units (which I think were made lower voltage just to thwart the original modchips).  The chips work by basically just doing what the other hacked firmwares do - one chip has one kernel, the other chip has another.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Pugnate on Sunday, April 15, 2007, 11:53:44 AM
Yea the latest DevHook apparently has some sort of flash utility. From what I understood at the shop, in the past you had to go through a complicated process of loading a game with Dev Hook but not any more.

As for DAX, yes it can play DAX files. I just played the Midnight Club III DAX I downloaded, but the cut scenes aren't working. Being a fan of the series, I just bought the game on eBay for $12. Good deal on a lot of PSP games on eBay. :)

Anyway if anyone is interested, there is a sweet program called CiSO converter that can convert files between DAX, ISO and CISO. If you are going to download, go for version 0.65. The earlier version didn't convert DAX files properly.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Quemaqua on Sunday, April 15, 2007, 12:02:44 PM
Heh, by DAX I didn't mean DAX files, by the way.  I meant the abbreviation of Dark_Alex, the maker of the OE custom firmwares.  And DevHook was never really all that complicated as you basically just mounted an image like you would an ISO on your PC.  Though all in all I never really liked DevHook.  I only used it early on to experiment with Loco Roco.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: idolminds on Sunday, April 15, 2007, 04:54:59 PM
The world is tempting me into a PSP. I saw Lumines at CC for $13.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Quemaqua on Sunday, April 15, 2007, 06:40:23 PM
Quick update on Metal Slug Anthology - I picked it up today and while it plays perfectly, I can see why some people are pissed.  The load times are pretty ridiculous.  That isn't to say that each load is very long, but the game loads way, way more than it has to.  Even selecting your character at the menu screen entails a load despite the fact that you see no visual change (it should have just loaded your character selection concurrent to the level loading).  It's a great collection of games that's hard to beat, and the games themselves are all presented perfectly, but it's a shame they didn't take a little more care.  It's a bit of a sloppy port just where the data shuffling is concerned.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Cobra951 on Monday, April 16, 2007, 10:25:28 AM
As for DAX, yes it can play DAX files. I just played the Midnight Club III DAX I downloaded, but the cut scenes aren't working. Being a fan of the series, I just bought the game on eBay for $12. Good deal on a lot of PSP games on eBay. :)

With, er, unofficial releases, very often FMV is cut out, or relinked to the shortest movie available.  This cuts back the size tremendously, so it will fit in smaller memory cards.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Pugnate on Monday, April 16, 2007, 10:37:56 AM
haha I can imagine. I just wanted to check it out to see if it would be something I wanted.

I bought Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops today as well as Tekken. Both are looking pretty good, though they are expensive here. :(

Oh and man Loco Roco is a blast. It is so cute and funny! My sister just gave it a shot and loved it.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: idolminds on Monday, April 16, 2007, 11:19:52 AM
As if I needed more incentive...Crazy Taxi on PSP (http://kotaku.com/gaming/clips/clip-crazy-taxi-fare-wars-252550.php).
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Pugnate on Monday, April 16, 2007, 11:55:07 AM
haha sweet!

Man the only valid reason for not buying a PSP right now is that it keeps sucking my money. All these titles that I want to play are about $15 on average and I keep buying.

Hey are the two GTA games worth a buy? What do you guys think?
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: iPPi on Monday, April 16, 2007, 01:42:10 PM
All this talk has sparked my interest for the PSP again.  I might go buy Loco Roco and MGS: Portable ops.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Pugnate on Monday, April 16, 2007, 01:52:01 PM
hehe I am glad. :P

If you don't have a problem with eBay you can get a good deal for Loco Roco. MGS is still at $30. I will post impressions when I get around to it, but Virtua Tennis won't let me go.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: iPPi on Monday, April 16, 2007, 01:55:54 PM
Virtua Tennis was kinda fun... but I didn't like the World Tour too much... all these mini games and only some tournaments.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Quemaqua on Monday, April 16, 2007, 10:24:43 PM
Uh, your link seems to have nothing about Crazy Taxi in it.  I are confused.  I even searched the site and got the same page.  What gives?

Anyway... yay Crazy Taxi.  Right now what I really want to try is Bounty Hounds, though.  Well, I have tried it.  Demo and full game.  I just can't find anywhere to buy it!  The demo totally fucking sucks, so don't bother with that (in Japanese too, or at least the one I tried), but the game is pretty cool.  It's extremely simple, probably to a fault, but I enjoy it.  You basically run around and kill mass quantities of nice-looking enemies in fairly no-frills environments with a variety of weapons.  The killing is super basic, but it looks good, and there's some fun character customization stuff.  Once it gets cheaper I'll order it online probably.

Right now I'm too busy with Metal Slug for much else, with a little Oddworld on the side.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: idolminds on Monday, April 16, 2007, 11:28:16 PM
Really? Link leads right to a story with a CT PSP vid.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Quemaqua on Monday, April 16, 2007, 11:41:03 PM
Okay, that's fucking weird.  I clicked it twice the first time, both times got a random huge page of news.  Then at the site I searched for Crazy Taxi and got the same page.  I just clicked it now and sure enough, CT vid.  Weird.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Cobra951 on Tuesday, April 17, 2007, 09:49:33 AM
haha sweet!

Man the only valid reason for not buying a PSP right now is that it keeps sucking my money. All these titles that I want to play are about $15 on average and I keep buying.

Hey are the two GTA games worth a buy? What do you guys think?

Liberty City Stories is a miniature of the SA generation of GTAs.  I played it for a while, but this sort of huge game is not something I get into on portables.  But if you do, yes, by all means.  Bang-up job.  I can't speak for the . . . other one?  Didn't even know there was another one.  Out of touch, remember?   :)
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: iPPi on Tuesday, April 17, 2007, 11:04:14 PM
Well, I almost bought LocoRoco today, but instead, I got Burning Crusade and a 2GB SD card for my camera.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: poomcgoo on Wednesday, April 18, 2007, 07:28:13 PM
This thread basically sealed the deal for me.  I've been wanting a PSP for a while now and I think it's time to just break down and get one.

A few questions though:

Since I'll be buying a new one, will I be missing out on all the homebrew/emulator stuff?
Where are some places I can go to learn how to mess around with it (ie. play PSX games/other emulators)?


I mean, I don't want to buy one if I wont be able to get all the good stuff.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Quemaqua on Wednesday, April 18, 2007, 08:55:18 PM
Look around, there's links all over the place here and elsewhere.  There's a lot to find and not really any one good place to find everything.  My experience with homebrew and such has been a lot of learning and studying before taking some leaps.  Expect to do a lot of the same.  You'll find "the scene" is a little bit infuriating at times.  Lots of old information, dead projects, and pages with archived stuff that seems horribly outdated.

As for whether or not you'll be able to do homebrew and such... well, it'll depend on what version of the firmware you get when you buy your PSP.  It seems like the hackers have gotten remarkably good at cracking all this stuff, but there are a variety of issues you have to pay attention to (especially what motherboard your PSP ships with).  So my suggestion would be to go find out what the highest official firmware version is that's actually downgradable, then find out what potential problems there are with newer motherboards (there are several).  Once you figure that out (and I believe you can actually tell what's in the guts of a PSP by its SKU on the back of the box), then just go find yourself a PSP and get ready to spend a little time setting it up.

Also, make sure you reserve quite a bit of extra cabbage for a good sized memory stick or two.  If you want PS1 games on the go, expect 300-700MB on average (and way more if you've got one with a lot of disks).
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: idolminds on Wednesday, April 18, 2007, 09:25:11 PM
This is what I've found so far.

Highest official firmware you can downgrade from is 3.03. Buying a new PSP you'll probably get 2.8 or 3.03. If you get lucky you might find older firmware, and you can tell from the box with this guide (http://forums.qj.net/f-guides-general-psp-42/t-determining-psp-firmware-using-box-codes-september-7-2006-28718.html). You will need an unpatched copy of GTA: Liberty City Stories to downgrade. New copies are all patched, so you gotta look used. A guy on IGN sent me this info on it:

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You will also need a copy of the original Grand Theft Auto Liberty City Stories in order to run a kernel needed to downgrade a PSP that is higher than Firmware 2.8.. This version is extremely rare now, but if you're persistent like me, you should be able to find an original copy either from a friend or in the used game section. All new copies are patched and worthless.

You'll see the following:

- The Copy of GTA LCS has firmware 2.0 in it's update section before you start the game

- The Serials "ULUS 10041" and "UPDL DD4850" are imprinted on the front of the disc under the "BLACK" Playstation Logo

- The Color of the UMD is a Dark Brown/Red with a Desert Eagle being held.

Then the only other thing to worry about is the motherboard, which unfortunately you cant check untill you buy the thing (unless you buy used, of course). Google search and you'll probably find a guide on that as well.

Hopefully I can make a little extra scratch if these shirts turn out and I can buy my PSP.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Quemaqua on Wednesday, April 18, 2007, 11:43:13 PM
Damn it, I just keep finding stuff I want to try.  Where did all these games come from all of a sudden?

Chili Con Carnage (http://www.gamespot.com/psp/action/chiliconcarnage/review.html?sid=6166513)
Gurumin: A Monstrous Adventure (http://www.gamespot.com/psp/rpg/gurumin/review.html?sid=6166371)
The Warriors (http://www.gamespot.com/psp/action/warriors/review.html?sid=6165879) (didn't play the PS2 version)

And there's still the aforementioned Bounty Hounds, Daxter, and Ratchet & Clank.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Pugnate on Friday, April 20, 2007, 01:16:40 AM
Well Lumines came in the mail today. I also bought Puzzle Quest so let's see when that comes in.

So I gave Lumines a spin and it seems pretty cool. Is it as simple as it looks, or is there more to it?

Also I've gotten a 'hold of' Dungeon Siege PSP to see what its worth, and it seems pretty cool. Diablo on the go.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Pugnate on Friday, April 20, 2007, 01:24:48 AM
Lately I'm playing a lot of Test Drive Unlimited for PSP and as of last night the Metal Slug Anthology (which is fucking awesome... Metal Slugs 1, 2, X, 3, 4, 5, and 6... all in one package with unlockable art and wallpapers and junk).  Still some Loco Roco, too.  Before that it was mostly just Wipeout Pure, Lumines, and lots of SNES stuff and some Genesis stuff (a lot of the latter I still can't get to work, which makes me sad).  Now I'm moving on to trying more PS1 games.  I played Silent Hill, Legend of Mana, some of Vagrant Story (which for some idiotic reason I still haven't been able to finish), Castlevania: SOTN, and am as we speak ripping the two PS Oddworld games.  Oh, and there's Sid Meier's Pirates! for the PSP which, while a little wonky with sound and graphics here and there, is an awesome port that plays perfectly.

Well I am going to try Metal Slug. If it is worth it, I will pick it, but it sure sounds like it is!
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Quemaqua on Friday, April 20, 2007, 06:27:50 AM
Fuck that.  Just get Diablo.  I got the PSx version working the other day.  =)

As for Metal Slug... the games are awesome as all get out, but the port is pretty wonky.  The games play just fine, but personally I don't think I'd have scored it very high due to some of the loading issues and stuff.  I'm not unhappy to own it, but some people might not deal as well with the problems.  I think I'll end up playing it from the memory stick most of the time even though I have the UMD.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Pugnate on Friday, April 20, 2007, 07:35:19 AM
So it is faster when running off a mem stick? Also lots of games are sluggish unfortunately, but I am putting up with it. Midnight Club III is so far the best looking PSP game I've tried, but has loading time and frame rate issues. In the end I don't mind as I just like the fact that I can game mobile.

And I am going to find Diablo now. Exciting stuff! :D

I read a few previews on Oblivion. It will be the only Oblivion game that doesn't include any of the original. Looks interesting.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Cobra951 on Friday, April 20, 2007, 10:10:18 AM
So it is faster when running off a mem stick? Also lots of games are sluggish unfortunately, but I am putting up with it.

That's a fact.  I'm not sure that sequential reading speeds would be better from the memory cards, but there is a heavy random-access penalty attached to optical media (which vanishes when the same digital image is read from flash memory).  In fact, it seems some of those unofficial releases have had a lot of dead space removed which is there only to optimize performance from a UMD.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: idolminds on Friday, April 20, 2007, 10:27:02 AM
I'm waiting for SNK vs Capcom: Card Fighters for the DS since I love card games but have no one to play them with. Then someone mentioned there is a Warhammer card game on PSP! Warhammer: Battle for Atluma (http://www.gamespot.com/psp/strategy/warhammerwarcry/player_review.html?id=392552)...and its good!
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Pugnate on Friday, April 20, 2007, 10:28:58 AM
I am really enjoying Lumines, but ordered both Lumines II and I by mistake. I am going to sell one of them, and it will probably be II. From what I read, they replaced the  music from the first game with pop shit.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: K-man on Friday, April 20, 2007, 10:37:39 PM
Yeah the original Lumines had awesome music.  It's still the only reason I regret parting with my PSP.  When they get uber cheap i'll pick one up again with this game.  Probably Metal Gear Solid:  Portable Ops as well.

There have been rumors of a redesign, which I think the PSP sorely needs.  So I'm holding off
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Pugnate on Saturday, April 21, 2007, 12:29:13 AM
Yea once the redsign is near I will sell this. It has a 8GB flash drive! But that's about all I know.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Pugnate on Saturday, April 21, 2007, 07:56:05 AM
Oh man Lumines is so awesome. While I am not fond of all of the music, most of it is good, and I like the subtle ways the sound effects compliment the song playing.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Cobra951 on Saturday, April 21, 2007, 01:25:22 PM
That's the whole attraction of the game, how the artsy visuals and the music complemented by related sound effects go along with the puzzle gameplay.  The puzzle game by itself is good, but would never have risen above the crowd of other such games, I don't think.  While I don't care for the micropayment schemes of Xbox Live, I'm glad I got the 360 version of the game.  It's awesome on a 23" LCD screen, with audio from decent 2.1 speakers.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Pugnate on Saturday, April 21, 2007, 01:38:16 PM
Hey what is your highest score?
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Cobra951 on Saturday, April 21, 2007, 02:03:06 PM
Hey what is your highest score?

On the PSP?  It's been too long for me to remember.  Several hundred K on the 360, like 500K on normal and 700K on hard.  (I'll have to check to be sure.)  Yeah, I know, weird, but true.  The "harder" mode is a completely different set of skins, and obviously, it's been easier for me.

Edit: 103,406 on the PSP.

Edit 2:  Heh.  Make that 240,652, plus at least 6 new skins.  I thought I had gotten a lot more into the concept of the game by playing on the Xbox, but I wasn't sure.  The game might have been easier.  Not so.  I really am more in tune with the game.  I hadn't played the PSP version for ages, and here I more than double my old best score in one shot.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Pugnate on Tuesday, April 24, 2007, 01:00:01 PM
Cobra you were right about a game being faster off a mem stick. I had tried Midnight Club III off the magic underworld shop and it loaded almost instantly. Off the UMD it takes almost a minute at times, and seems to be running slower. Crazy.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Quemaqua on Tuesday, April 24, 2007, 10:02:35 PM
Yeah, don't use memstick performance as a benchmark for how an actual UMD will run.  There are load times on the Metal Slug UMD that are completely seamless on the memstick.  Like it doesn't even give you a message.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Pugnate on Thursday, April 26, 2007, 02:57:32 PM
I went to pickup my uncle from the airport -- which is quite far. Anyway got there and learned the flight was delayed by 2 and a half hours. Frustrated I sat down at a coffee place and started playing my PSP. I have to tell you, the time passed very quickly. I am quite happy with having a handheld. Very useful.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Pugnate on Thursday, May 03, 2007, 03:43:43 AM
I had the Tekken magic underworld copy to hold me till the UMD came in, which I got a great deal on. Anyway the UMD has music and I love this game. In the car I get a goofy look of happiness on my face as I play... But again, the loading times are far worse than with the mem stick. But the game is definitely worth owning.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Pugnate on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 12:32:00 AM
On a whim I purchased Syphon Filter. It isn't bad at all.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Quemaqua on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 06:54:52 AM
For those not following the Odin Sphere thread, I highly recommend getting a Magical Underworld Store copy of Princess Crown for PSP, a port of the Sega Saturn game of the same name.  It's Jap only, but there's a really great guide here (http://www.andriasang.com/princesscrown/pcrown/translation.html) with everything you need dialogue-wise translated.  It's a little goofy, but it works, and the game is outstanding and unique fun.  Most of the menus and stuff are either graphical or in English, so it's really just needed for dialogue and following the plot.  A FAQ can help you figure out what all the items do pretty easily.  I highly recommend giving it a whirl.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Pugnate on Thursday, May 24, 2007, 01:05:24 PM
God of War PSP (http://www.youtube.com/p.swf?video_id=sJrTVg-TG_M&eurl=http%3A//www.google.com.pk/search%3Fclient%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla%253Aen-US%253Aofficial%26channel%3Ds%26hl%3Den%26q%3D&iurl=http%3A//img.youtube.com/vi/sJrTVg-TG_M/2.jpg&t=OEgsToPDskJ05C76cnb6VLxeQQrEBf6S)

Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: TheOtherBelmont on Thursday, May 24, 2007, 01:47:32 PM
God of War PSP (http://www.youtube.com/p.swf?video_id=sJrTVg-TG_M&eurl=http%3A//www.google.com.pk/search%3Fclient%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla%253Aen-US%253Aofficial%26channel%3Ds%26hl%3Den%26q%3D&iurl=http%3A//img.youtube.com/vi/sJrTVg-TG_M/2.jpg&t=OEgsToPDskJ05C76cnb6VLxeQQrEBf6S)

Damn that is looking pretty good so far.  If I had a PSP I would probably end up getting it.  Also Pug, have you played the God of War games?
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Pugnate on Thursday, May 24, 2007, 02:19:16 PM
Yea Belmont. My brother had visited me last year for a few months and I got him a PS2. We got both the god of wars, and I really enjoyed watching my cousins play it. I actually didn't enjoy playing it as much myself, as I did watching. It was pretty awesome though.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Quemaqua on Thursday, May 24, 2007, 10:15:21 PM
I can't wait for it.  They still haven't sent me my demo disk.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Pugnate on Thursday, November 01, 2007, 04:38:20 AM
OK so I think buying Syphon Filter was a mistake for me. I mean I am sure it is a good game for those who like that sorta thing on a portable, but not me. I might sell it in favor of something else. BTW, I finally got the hang of Wipeout. Awesomeness.

Castlevania: The Dracula X Chronicles holds my interest. Any good? GPW seems to have a hardon for Castlevania, and I've never tried one, so I am thinking of picking this up.
Title: Re: I went to get a DS and got a PSP instead. :O
Post by: Quemaqua on Thursday, November 01, 2007, 06:20:33 AM
I never understood why people like any of the Syphon Filter games.  Boring, generic shit from the ground up, if you ask me.

Dracula X looks cool.  I think that one's supposed to have a free version of Symphony of the Night piggybacking along with it, too, which is one of the best games of all time.