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Community => General Discussion => Topic started by: gpw11 on Tuesday, November 13, 2007, 07:18:05 PM
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Seriously fucked up (http://stcharlesjournal.stltoday.com/news/sj2tn20071110-1111stc_pokin_1.ii1.txt)
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Wow, that is a pretty terrible story. How low is that? Kids, especially teenagers, are so fucking mean to each other it is sick, but it is even worse that supposedly mature adults were in on this. Unbelievable.
Not to detract from the story, but that writer was horrible. I could hardly tell who was saying what or who they were talking about at any given time.
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Yeah, the writer was really bad, but I just kind of looked past that.
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Yeah, badly written. I read about a 1/4 and had to stop. But I skimmed and got the gist of it. What a shitty thing to do.
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Sad if true. I've read a lot of stories that are all written in this kind of "style" and it makes me question how true any of them really are.
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Can I get the summary as well? I'm guessing from the picture and from what I read, a fat chick hung herself from industrial strength rope?
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Civil suit is the way to go here if they want justice. You can't make everything a criminal act.
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Sad if true. I've read a lot of stories that are all written in this kind of "style"...
"Feature style." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_writing#Feature_style)
...and it makes me question how true any of them really are.
Uh... there are basically two types of articles, features and filler. Filler is "as it happens" news, usually written pyramid style and as quickly as possible, with minimal fact-checking or research; most news articles are filler. Feature articles are chosen ahead of time, with long schedules and lots of research. They're almost always of higher quality, even if they have a shitty narrative structure that hides important details.
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"Feature style." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_writing#Feature_style) Uh... there are basically two types of articles, features and filler. Filler is "as it happens" news, usually written pyramid style and as quickly as possible, with minimal fact-checking or research; most news articles are filler. Feature articles are chosen ahead of time, with long schedules and lots of research. They're almost always of higher quality, even if they have a shitty narrative structure that hides important details.
Bad link. Feature stories don't use the inverted pyramid. They have a soft opening with a nut graph.
Also, hard news stories don't have minimal fact checking - the facts are the entire story, they are crucial. There are deadlines that must be met, of course, but the facts are vital. And that last sentence you wrote is entirely rubbish.
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stories like this make me want to become a hermit even more.
you know, parents should stay out of their kids' fights.
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Depressing.
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Bad link.
Works fine for me.
Feature stories don't use the inverted pyramid.
That's the opposite of what I said.
Also, hard news stories don't have minimal fact checking - the facts are the entire story, they are crucial. There are deadlines that must be met, of course, but the facts are vital. And that last sentence you wrote is entirely rubbish.
And your reading comprehension sucks.
HAND.
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I meant bad link as in it didn't pertain to what your link said.
My second comment referred to what the link said, as I assumed that's what you meant feature writing was. Since, you know, you labeled the link "feature writing."
My reading comprehension is good.
Hand?
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I meant bad link as in it didn't pertain to what your link said.
I answered a question about the feature style of writing, with a link about the feature style of writing, that I labeled "feature style."
My second comment referred to what the link said, as I assumed that's what you meant feature writing was. Since, you know, you labeled the link "feature writing."
Actually, I labeled it "feature style." Once again, reading comprehension.
My reading comprehension is good.
Despite all evidence to the contrary.
Hand?
Have a nice day. (http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/2851/wavesmileyzi4.gif)
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My reading comprehension is good. My patience in following your constant wikipedia links to the bottom of the page is not. Despite this, I stand corrected on all other points, in which you were wrong. Have a nice day.
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*snicker*
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Yes, I could have been stubborn. But I decided to admit my mistake. At the same time, I blame you for it. Wikipedia is not a credible source, asshole.
/me feels vindicated
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Yes, I could have been stubborn. But I decided to admit my mistake. At the same time, I blame you for it. Wikipedia is not a credible source, asshole.
/me feels vindicated
What mistake?
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What mistake?
EXACTLY.
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EXACTLY.
Haha! Exactly what?
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*pats Nick on the head*
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I do love the little rubs on the head.
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*pulls hand away quickly*
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*pulls hand away quickly*
Its too late, we've already bonded.
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And people say that concealed weapons are a bad idea...
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And people say that concealed weapons are a bad idea...
You must be new, its never been hidden.
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You're right. The instinct is readily displayed. The intent is hidden. In whom will we trust?
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Wow, that is a pretty terrible story. How low is that? Kids, especially teenagers, are so fucking mean to each other it is sick, but it is even worse that supposedly mature adults were in on this. Unbelievable.
Not to detract from the story, but that writer was horrible. I could hardly tell who was saying what or who they were talking about at any given time.
That is a horrible story. Adults who get involved like that are really anal.
Also after reading that 1Up review, and then this, I started to wonder if there was something wrong with me today. I too couldn't follow it completely, so I appreciate you saying that.
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Yea that was pretty poorly written.
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http://edition.cnn.com/2007/US/11/17/internet.suicide.ap/index.html
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While there, I found another horrible story (http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/11/17/saudi.rape.victim/index.html?iref=mpstoryview) linked on the sidebar. Things are tough all over.
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Lord Christ save me. Punishing a girl who was gangraped by 7 men? With 200 lashes and time in *prison*? That makes me sick to my stomach to even think of. I can scarcely believe such a thing possible even by a bunch of cold-hearted zealots.
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fanaticism is horrible. that's what it's all about - the 200 lashes etc.. it's just so fundamentally wrong.
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Was it in Pakistan or India 5 or so years ago where a girl was sentanced to gang-rape for having sex outside of her caste? I think it was set out by whatever local 'tribal' government and the federal courts were shitting but didn't know if they could actually do anything about it.
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Was it in Pakistan or India 5 or so years ago where a girl was sentanced to gang-rape for having sex outside of her caste? I think it was set out by whatever local 'tribal' government and the federal courts were shitting but didn't know if they could actually do anything about it.
are you serious?
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Was it in Pakistan or India 5 or so years ago where a girl was sentanced to gang-rape for having sex outside of her caste? I think it was set out by whatever local 'tribal' government and the federal courts were shitting but didn't know if they could actually do anything about it.
It wasn't actually a city, but a village near the Afghan/Taliban border. I think those men are under arrest without trial under anti terrorism or something now.
Lord Christ save me. Punishing a girl who was gangraped by 7 men? With 200 lashes and time in *prison*? That makes me sick to my stomach to even think of. I can scarcely believe such a thing possible even by a bunch of cold-hearted zealots.
Ahhh fuck.
I forwarded that to most of my Muslim friends when the story broke a few days ago. It was my little brother who sent that to me, and my stomach turned.
I uh... didn't post it here... because I was embarrassed. I need to get the fuck out of this part of the world. I've already related personal stories of fanaticism to you guys.
Anyway according to Islamic law, any man guilty of rape is to be stoned to death, period. No room there.
As for Saudi Arabia, things like that can happen there. That isn't Islamic law... those men are supposed to be punished by stoning them to death. Instead they get a few years. Plus the lawyer got into trouble as well.
Look obviously the major problem are those lawmakers, but at the same time you have to say... The United States of America is Saudi Arabia's biggest ally. These sort of human rights violations happen a lot there, without the US government ever raising its voice.
Because Saudi Arabia provide the US with cheap oil, and powerful people have a lot of money invested there, the US government will not say a word.
After 9/11 all the Saudi citizens in the country were allowed to leave in 24 hours, while Afghanistan was bombed even though 99% of the 20 hijackers were Saudi.
The people of Saudi Arabia do want change, but without international pressure this will never change.
You know you are reading about it on CNN now... but even five years ago you wouldn't have, because any such story was covered up.
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...even though 99% of the 20 hijackers...
19.8 people?
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Government corruption is pretty much a global truth, these days. We're all fucked in the long run.
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lol W&C... well 19.8 if you just look at mental capacities.
Government corruption is pretty much a global truth, these days. We're all fucked in the long run.
haha... I'd like to see a potential leader stand up and say,"Well boys... it has been a good run... but our species is fucked. Long live the cockroaches."
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And then initiate a 3 day work week and cheap liquor on the other four days. That'd be great.
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Send the horrible writer of that story and the horrible adults that caused the girl to kill herself to prison together I say. 8)
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KX?!?!
Where did you come from?
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haha that was my reaction as well.
He is like the MysterD of the community boards.
Minus the quoting. :P
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Holy shit, this lady is just fucked:
http://meganhaditcoming.blogspot.com/
Remember: This is an adult with a kid. The actual incident aside, who the fuck then goes and makes a fake blog pretending to be another girl from the same school as the deceased in order to 'get the truth out'?
There is also this story: http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/wireStory?id=3964809
Which basically outlines how this family has been harassed to no end in the town they live in since the story broke. It's down right now and I'm looking for a mirror, but it could be up pretty soon.
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Wait, which family is being harassed? The one of the girl who killed herself or the other family that was persecuting the victim?
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The family that was persecuting the victim.