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Title: HD-DVD not giving up.
Post by: Pugnate on Tuesday, January 29, 2008, 04:18:42 AM
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/01/28/hd-sales-drop-warner-drops-hd

If I actually cared that much about HDDVD vs Blu Ray, I'd be annoyed that HD-DVD is continuing its struggle.

Imagine if this was like the US presidential election where the losing party decides not to go on with further voting, and calls up the winner to concede.

Toshiba: Hello Sony.

Sony: Hello.

Toshiba: We've looked at the current results, and have decided not to continue. We are conceding. Congratulations.

Sony: Damn straight bitch. I IS THE JAPANESE KING! Want to fondle some school girls with me?

Toshiba: HA! We were only KIDDING! We've cut down prices of HD-DVD players to $150! AND... AND... WE HAVE SUPER BOWL ADVERTISING!
Title: Re: HD-DVD not giving up.
Post by: Cobra951 on Tuesday, January 29, 2008, 07:20:09 AM
Hahaha!  It's good to be the KING.

I honestly do not care.  I'm not in the market for either one of them.  I hope they both die.

Title: Re: HD-DVD not giving up.
Post by: Pugnate on Tuesday, January 29, 2008, 08:11:45 AM
That would be so awesome, but unlikely.
Title: Re: HD-DVD not giving up.
Post by: Quemaqua on Tuesday, January 29, 2008, 08:16:19 AM
Hahaha!  It's good to be the KING.

I honestly do not care.  I'm not in the market for either one of them.  I hope they both die.

+1

Though I have to say, I'd rather see Blu Ray die if I had to choose between the two.
Title: Re: HD-DVD not giving up.
Post by: iPPi on Tuesday, January 29, 2008, 08:24:00 AM
Regardless of what happens to HD-DVD and blu-ray, I'm still keeping my HD-DVD player and will still expand its library until the actual death of the format. 

It's also the primary reason I am considering buying a PS3 at the moment--for the blu-ray player, but it will probably be another month or two before I actually buy it.  I _hope_ that maybe Microsoft will release another peripheral for blu-ray support, but it looks unlikely at present.

It's a shame that HD-DVD will probably lose the format war though, I personally think its the superior format for the consumer.
Title: Re: HD-DVD not giving up.
Post by: Pugnate on Tuesday, January 29, 2008, 08:29:47 AM
Why do you think so? From what I've read Blu-Ray has more capacity?
Title: Re: HD-DVD not giving up.
Post by: iPPi on Tuesday, January 29, 2008, 09:09:22 AM
HD-DVD is region free and has mandatory lossless audio.

See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_high_definition_optical_disc_formats
Title: Re: HD-DVD not giving up.
Post by: Cobra951 on Tuesday, January 29, 2008, 09:10:17 AM
HD DVD is an evolution of the current technology, making it possible for instance to have HD DVD and normal DVD sides to the same disc.  HD DVD was fully defined from the start.  Blu-ray is going to leave some very angry early adopters with hardware that can't play the later discs.  HD DVD is cheaper as well.  Once the war is over, the real costs are going to make it into the picture.
Title: Re: HD-DVD not giving up.
Post by: scottws on Tuesday, January 29, 2008, 10:41:55 AM
Reading iPPi's link makes me thing that it is HD-DVD that is the better format.  Definitely better in terms of audio, I guess really all you lose is a little picture quality because of the smaller size.  Though seriously, 30 GB for HD using H.264 should be plenty good enough.

It sounds like Blu-Ray wanted to make the disc experience better with all that Java stuff.  While DVD menus were pretty rudimentary, they sufficed and I didn't really spend much time out of the movies.  Maybe Sony is thinking Blu-Ray games?  Because DVD games tend to suck due to the technology available.

Edit:  Haha.  I just did a little poking around and both formats' DRM is cracked already.  Why do they even bother?
Title: Re: HD-DVD not giving up.
Post by: MysterD on Tuesday, January 29, 2008, 03:27:22 PM
HD DVD is an evolution of the current technology, making it possible for instance to have HD DVD and normal DVD sides to the same disc.  HD DVD was fully defined from the start.  Blu-ray is going to leave some very angry early adopters with hardware that can't play the later discs.  HD DVD is cheaper as well.  Once the war is over, the real costs are going to make it into the picture.

One good there is there are new players out there that are equipped to do both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray, so that if either one loses the war, you still can play either format....
They're expensive as all hell, though....

Though, could Sony sell some sort of adapter, firmware, hardware, or something to attach to the old Blu-Ray player so these early adopters can play the newer discs???

Title: Re: HD-DVD not giving up.
Post by: beo on Tuesday, January 29, 2008, 03:38:18 PM
One good there is there are new players out there that are equipped to do both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray, so that if either one loses the war, you still can play either format....
They're expensive as all hell, though....

Though, could Sony sell some sort of adapter, firmware, hardware, or something to attach to the old Blu-Ray player so these early adopters can play the newer discs???


they are releasing new firmware, but given that this firmware utilises functions that weren't in the original spec, it's incompatible with some older players. nothing short of a hardware upgrade would fix these issues (as i understand it, blu-ray 1.1 allows picture-in-picture support, which requires a second a/v decoder).
Title: Re: HD-DVD not giving up.
Post by: Xessive on Thursday, January 31, 2008, 12:21:00 AM
If I had to pick a side I'd go with HD-DVD. Other than that I agree with Cobra in hoping both formats just fizzle.