1. Just be glad it got picked up by someone.
2. Maybe EA will treat it correctly and give the game some semblance of a marketing push so it will have the chance for success that Psychonauts didn't.
OMG! Upon which platforms will I be able I play this amazing game Brütal Legend?
The currently-announced platforms for Brütal Legend are the XBOX 360, and the PlayStation 3.
What? No PC version? I've always hated you, Double Fine! Now I know why.
Please, no hate. No one ever said there WASN'T going to be a PC version.
Well, it doesn't matter either way now, since if they've gone with EA a PC version may as well not exist since it will be crippled and useless.Sad but true.
Well, it doesn't matter either way now, since if they've gone with EA a PC version may as well not exist since it will be crippled and useless.
Well, it doesn't matter either way now, since if they've gone with EA a PC version may as well not exist since it will be crippled and useless.
I'd rather Tim Schafer continue to make games, than not make them at all. At the same time, it has to be said, that Psychonauts was a flop on the consoles as well... and "Adventure" gaming has been an unsafe business investment -- regardless of platform -- for a while.
Well, it doesn't matter either way now, since if they've gone with EA a PC version may as well not exist since it will be crippled and useless.
What the fuck? I blamed Schafer for nothing at any point. I'm sad to see a PC guy give up the PC legacy. Where is there any blame there? Did I blame him for EA's DRM? No, I simply complained about EA's DRM being what it always is.
I prefer PC gaming because I prefer it. You can prefer anything you damn well please. But why am I not allowed to be sad that a game I was looking forward to from a developer whose first game came to the PC and whose lead guy has a long PC legacy isn't coming to PC? Sure, I own a 360 and PS3. But I hate my 360 because it's a piece of junk that doesn't work properly, and no matter how much I like my PS3, the PC is still my preferred platform given a choice between the two.
You say it has nothing to do with ideology, because you're not looking at what I'm saying. This has nothing to do with Tim Schafer's ideology. It has everything to do with mine.
This has nothing to do with ideology. I think what you guys repeatedly fail to comprehend is that ultimately everyone's goal in the game industry is to make money.Of course everybody wants to make money.
Schafer is doing what he needs to do to ensure the success (and survival) of his development company. Releasing on consoles is the easiest (and best) way to get this game that many people are busting their asses on out to the public. DoubleFine NEEDS this game to be successful.Of course DF needs this game to be successful.
The title won't sell nearly as well on PC. Period. Like it or not the platform focus in gaming has shifted, and you guys just absolutely refuse to accept that fact.
The inevitable shitty EA DRM is not Tim Schafer's fault.Of course not. That's EA being EA.
Again, he is simply doing what he can to stay in business. And if that means having a game published by EA, so be it. Don't fault the guy for trying to feed his family. Yeah, Schafer's PC legacy is a mile long. But does that mean he should stick it out with a dying (yes, I said dying) platform and ignore the massive amounts of sales he would garner in the console market? Fuck no! He'd be an idiot to do so.For any company releasing a PC version at a later said date, you are possibly not going to sell a lot of copies -- especially if your game already sold like hotcakes on the console. Take that and then throw on top of that all the piracy problems the PC has, controversies over DRM, and the chance of a PC port suffering from "the port syndrome," well -- we're likely screwed again.
So yeah, why not focus your efforts (and monies) on developing a good game for the platforms you're most likely to have success with? If you don't want to deal with the DRM, don't buy the game on PC. Simple as that. It's not like you don't have other options. And if you like Tim Schafer and his games, why you wouldn't purchase his game on a console is just flat out beyond me.I think b/c many feel, in most cases, the PC version of a game has more to offer than a console -- when the PC version's done correctly and not half-assed, of course. And when companies take advantage of the PC's strengths; which would be modding, the Internet, and ever-changing horsepower of the PC.
I mean if the PC was the only gaming platform you had access to, then I could see where shitty DRM would be a problem.I don't own a console -- and I don't plan on jumping ship to the consoles anytime soon.
But most of you own consoles. But it seems that you (and others) would rather sit here and bitch about the DRM on the PC version repeatedly than buy the console version and enjoy it.Console gamers don't have to deal with that BS -- not yet, anyways. I wonder when it'll come, as console versions are getting pirated more so than before (but nowhere even close to a PC version's extent) and with more and more emphasis on games supporting XB-Live and PS Network.
It was mentioned on PCG's podcast recently that according to an official estimate, there were at least 25 million high end PCs out there, armed with cards at least as powerful as 8800GTs. I mentioned 10 million earlier, but that was just 8800s... Here PCG mentioned 25 million.Don't start that shit again. You don't have a leg to stand on. There are a also lot of sportscars out there on the roads. It doesn't mean people race them every weekend.
No, I don't think he's failed us. I fully understand his logic, but it still makes me sad. And I know a lot of people don't hate EA or get so wrapped up in business ethics, etc., but I sincerely dislike them as a company and try very hard not to support them. Hence my own ideology gets in the way of wanting to get this game at all. I likely will if it turns out well, but I really wish EA hadn't turned out to be the people to pick it up. I like Pixar, but I hate Disney. Same thing here. I like Double Fine, but I hate EA. It's just not a happy marriage in my book.
Don't start that shit again. You don't have a leg to stand on. There are a also lot of sportscars out there on the roads. It doesn't mean people race them every weekend.
What the fuck? I blamed Schafer for nothing at any point. I'm sad to see a PC guy give up the PC legacy. Where is there any blame there? Did I blame him for EA's DRM? No, I simply complained about EA's DRM being what it always is.
I think Psychonauts' failure is more a testament of Majesco's failure to properly market the game than anything else. I basically had to hear about the game through word of mouth, and I wasn't even aware Tim Schafer was responsible for the game until I happened to come home with it one day. I'm not saying that a proper marketing push would have made the game a blockbuster hit, but it certainly would have sold more than 100,000 across the board.
I'm not saying I don't believe piracy happens. All I'm saying is that pointing out there are X number of cards sold doesn't tell anyone anything than there are X number of cards sold. We've been through that before, and I thought we'd put it to rest pretty soundly.
Buying a new vid card is no guarantee that you will play every game that is released, even in that year alone. It's an arbitrary assumption.
I'm not saying I don't believe piracy happens. All I'm saying is that pointing out there are X number of cards sold doesn't tell anyone anything than there are X number of cards sold. We've been through that before, and I thought we'd put it to rest pretty soundly.
Speaking of Crysis, remember when Crytek said they were developing it to be scalable? That it would run on older systems? Good times.
Regarding hardware that signals game purchases, what about gaming peripherals? like gamepads, joysticks, and steering wheels? I know they don't really apply to all games but might suggest something about cross-platform games. Or even gaming mice and keyboards.
This isn't the console market. PCs are used for other things.
Video cards have absolutely no other purpose than gaming.
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Also, I apologize for hijacking this thread etc etc.
Activision's none too pleased about Double Fine Productions' heavy metal epic Brütal Legend having gone to EA. So it's suing the developer. What say you, Double Fine president Tim Schafer?
"Hey, if Activision liked it, then they should have put a ring on it," Schafer said. "Oh great, now Beyoncé is going to sue me too."
And that's about the best official response to a lawsuit we've ever heard at Kotaku. if only legal battle could be settled in a battle of wits, instead of extended litigation and a series of public relations disasters, the world would be a better place.
Jeez. Somebody find a publisher that isn't shit to step in and take it away from both of them. This game deserves better.
It looks like a hell of a good time.I'd expect nothing less from Double Fine.
"Hey, if Activision liked it, then they should have put a ring on it," Schafer said. "Oh great, now Beyoncé is going to sue me too."
Ugh... I'm looking forward to this game way too much.I beg to differ - no, you are not!
According to GameStop, the axe was made "in close collaboration with Jack Black and Kyle Gass of Tenacious D" and features not just a customized appearance (with a sweet "Tenacious D" fretboard and image of the band on the body), but "new sound effects, new voice over work from Jack Black and Kyle Gass, a new visual effects suite, and new geeky technical stuff like unique textures, materials and shaders."
An EA spokesman likened the situation to "a husband abandoning his family and then suing after his wife meets a better-looking guy."LA Times (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2009/08/actvision-double-fine-brutal-legend-settlement.html)
EDIT - So I kind of really love this game. I get that it isn't perfect and whatever, but... I fucking love this game.
So yea... I don't get this commerical (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVo98qkUoTc), is that song supposed to be ironic or was some idiot in charge of advertising responsible for this?
Brutal Legend (http://store.steampowered.com/app/225260/) officially on the Steam store!
Maybe we''ll get a user mod that removes all the RTS parts ;DOh God I hope so! That was the main frustration in the game for me on the PS3. It wasn't special.. It just felt like that weird game Sacrifice.