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Games => General Gaming => Topic started by: idolminds on Tuesday, January 06, 2009, 04:38:29 PM
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Minimum Requirements
o Windows XP SP2 or Windows Vista SP1
o P4 3.2 GHz (single core) or any Dual Core processor
o 1 GB RAM (XP), 1.5 GB RAM (Vista)
o A 128MB Video Card (Shader Model 3) - Nvidia GeForce 6600 GT / ATI X1600, or equivalent
o 5.5 GB of Hard Drive space
Recommended
o Windows XP SP2 or Windows Vista SP1
o AMD Athlon 64x2 4400+ or any Intel Core 2 Duo
o 2 GB RAM (XP and Vista)
o A 256MB Video Card (Shader Model 3) - Nvidia GeForce 7800 GT / ATI X1900, or equivalent
o 5.5 GB of Hard Drive space
*UPDATE*
Open beta starts January 28th. If you own Soulstorm, you can get it a week earlier (the 21st). The beta will include all 4 races and 5 maps. It uses Games for Windows Live for matchmaking. The beta is being hosted by Steam, so you'll need to use it to download everything.
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Those aren't bad at all.
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I take great pleasure in those specs as well.
Sorry, stupid joke
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Sweet. More people to play!
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Yeah those specs aren't to bad. sadly my old comp still couldn't run it even on minimum. But soon i hope to start buying stuff to build myself a new computer that can handle more of the newer games a lot easier.
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Beta info! (http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/56666)
Open beta starts January 28th. If you own Soulstorm, you can get it a week earlier (the 21st). The beta will include all 4 races and 5 maps. It uses Games for Windows Live for matchmaking. The beta is being hosted by Steam, so you'll need to use it to download everything.
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It uses Games for Windows Live for matchmaking. The beta is being hosted by Steam, so you'll need to use it to download everything.
Does this mean it will REQUIRE both G4WL and Steam (running in the background to play)? :P
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Meh. I wish it wouldn't use GFWL, but I guess there's no getting around it. And if there's one game I'll make the sacrifice for, it's this one, distasteful as I find having to stoop. I think I might do the beta, too, because I'm really curious and I'll need to have Sy over so he can see it in action.
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Beta starting (http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/56848) for Soulstorm owners. Heres how to get in:
1. To access the DoW II Beta, first log into your Steam account.
2. If you do not currently have a Steam account, go here: store.steampowered.com/about to download, install, and create an account
3. After you are logged in to Steam, go to Games > Activate a product, then enter your Soulstorm key.
4. After the activation, you'll be able to download and play the beta
And Steam currently has Soulstorm for $7.50. So if you don't have it and want into the beta, there you go. Well....early beta. In a week it'll be open to everyone anyway.
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If I hadn't just picked up LittleBigPlanet, I would so be all over this.
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Hmmm. I don't want to install Steam again, even for this. Oh well. It's not like I'll have time for much of anything the next couple weeks.
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Gamestop might be refusing to sell DoW2? (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3172408)
Due to its close connection to Steam. Steam is required for the beta, but word is that the full game is going to require it as well (god damnit). GS isn't happy about that.
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I don't entirely mind that Live is part of the system and if it was just Steam, whatever. But, now that Live and STEAM are both required.... damn it. Pick one thing and fucking stick with it. It'd be interesting to see if the Steam requirement for non-Steam purchases is becoming part of Valve's contracts.
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Fucking harshing my buzz completely. I'm getting really sick of this bullshit, and particularly sick of Valve.
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There's still no confirmation if non-Steam versions will actually require Steam to launch, so we'll just have to wait on that. If Gamestop wants to be a little bitch about carrying the game because of Valve, let them.
Anywho, bring back the buzz with an awesome 20 minute video that shows how a full real game will work with some commentary (http://community.dawnofwar2.com/age_gate.php). Warning: this is full of awesome.
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I saw your link in IRC, I'm already almost done downloading.
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Man....having to pick a side between STEAM and Gamestop is like having to pick between AIDS and cancer
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I don't know how Gamestop thinks they're going to change any minds anyway. They don't fucking sell hardly any PC games.
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Man....having to pick a side between STEAM and Gamestop is like having to pick between AIDS and cancer
Cancer over AIDS man. You can't infect others.
I've never shopped at Gamestop though I know they're one of the few shops who will actually ship to my region. Not sure if they still do.
Having Steam AND Live is retarded. I wish they'd pick one and stick with it. GTAIV had Social Club on top of that too.
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I don't know how Gamestop thinks they're going to change any minds anyway. They don't fucking sell hardly any PC games.
Why does GameStop care?
People don't SELL BACK used PC games to them anymore.
GameStop stopped that not too long after BG2.
EDIT:
I bet Steam's taking a good deal of sales out of GameStop's PC games -- whether it's retail store, retail online, or digital distribution.
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No, Gamestop is taking a good deal of sales out of Gamestop. Like you said, they have basically no resale value. Profit margins are small, so they stopped carrying them. I know in the GS stores around here the PC game section is tiny and crammed on one wire rack. Probably 20-30 games total. The rest of the store is lined with consoles games, most of them used copies.
GS isn't stupid, they know where they get their money. For them to get all pissy over this is kind of funny, though.
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Well, I decided that I was being a little bitch about Steam, so I installed it this morning and started downloading the beta. I mean, I more or less built my new computer with DoW 2 in mind, I should just get over myself and get going.
So, the game should be installed and updated by the time I get home tonight around 8PM. I know at least Que has Soulstorm, but I also feel like I'm forgetting someone else who bought it. We should get this bad boy off the ground and skewer some heads in multiplayer tonight.
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Screw Gamestop.
Bring Babbage's back.
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I'm so with you, man. I was going to if you didn't, but if you're going to.. why not?
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Oh man, they really got things right with this. Battles just feel fluid and there's a great ebb and flow to combat, even more so than with the original game. Thanks to cover and positioning, it's even fun to have a group of the most basic troops running around. That's more or less one of the strengths of Company of Heroes and it's great to see that carry over to this since so many RTSes get it wrong on that front. It makes the game seem like less of a race to get to the really big guys and makes the big guys feel that much cooler.
Most important for me, they managed to get the flavor of each race down perfectly. I thought they did a really good job with the original game in this respect, but somehow Relic outdid themselves and brought the characters even more to life. This is especially true with the Orks. Before they were just sorta lumbering bad guys, but now the humor associated with them in all the fluff seems to have been properly infused into the game and they're more fun to play with because of it.
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I concur. The feel of the units is great, and so much closer to what we've played of tabletop. You're able to buy a lot more units a lot more rapidly when you're playing the Tyranids, but as a Space Marine, it takes ages comparatively to get enough resources for units. But your units outlast Nid units like crazy, and you'll chew through a ton of them even with a decent amount of guys.
I really enjoyed what we played and what I played prior to that. I'm definitely looking forward to the full release, to an SP campaign, and to the inevitable expansions (this is one franchise in which I feel expansions are completely justified, and also totally worth the money -- and I almost never feel that way about games these days).
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Hope you guys like that whole Steam + GFWL (http://community.dawnofwar2.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=7440) thing.
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It was hard to hear what the guy was saying amidst all the slurping sounds of people sucking Valve's collective dick.
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Lame. my comment on this is still the same. One is fine. Two, that's just dumb. I'm guessing after all the recent bad press GFWL got recently, Steam was chosen as something of a back-up for when GWFL dies. I'm also guessing this means Relic is kicking themselves for even bothering with Live.
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I wonder about Relic's involvement. They make it sound as though it was their decision, but wouldn't THQ put pressure on them one way or another?
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I wonder about Relic's involvement. They make it sound as though it was their decision, but wouldn't THQ put pressure on them one way or another?
Of course. THQ's last game they published Saints Row 2 PC required STEAM.
Seriously, though -- I'd rather they went for the requirement of STEAM Only or G4WL Only.
Picking both...that's just goofy.
I just wonder how much of a pain in the ass it'll be for every DoW2 gamer to have to run Steam to boot the game up; then also got to connect to G4WL to do MP.
Will DLC and extra junk be sold ONLY through G4WL? Or will you be able to buy it through Steam, as well?
B/c seriously, all this jumping both b/t Steam and G4WL, that just sounds frickin' annoying...
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DLC will be through GFWL. Steam doesn't appear to be set up for those little transactions in the same way Live is.
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DLC will be through GFWL. Steam doesn't appear to be set up for those little transactions in the same way Live is.
Even though Steam sells expansions packs for games on their site?
Am I missing something here?
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Didn't the Fallout 3 business just prove to everyone that DLC doesn't work so well on PC via Live? I can't imagine getting micro-transactions to work on Steam would really be all that hard. Of course, that would mean Valve would have to stop shoveling food into Gabe Newel's maw and do some actual work again.
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Steam sells expansions, but arent they listed as separate games? They could update Steam and add in the functionality to sell DLC, but that would require...you know...work. Like, programmer and stuff. To mess with the All Holy Steam. Valve just isn't into that sort of thing.
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And it's probably best they don't. They'd just fuck it up even worse and break it even further than its already been broken just through their normal updates.
That said, GFWL is pathetic in regards to DLC. If I sign in and go to the downloads area of Fallout 3, the DLC doesn't even show up. It's just empty. I've heard you have to go through some crap and download a new version of the program, etc. etc., and if the program told me that when I signed in to get the DLC that would be inconvenient enough. But no, it tells me nothing. If I didn't use some outside source for information, I'd never even know the DLC existed. Way to encourage me to spend money, Microsoft. You stupid fucks.
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It has been said that PC Gamer gave DoW2 a 86% score (http://www.evilavatar.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1710787#post1710787)
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9.0 from IGN
Written review (http://pc.ign.com/articles/954/954749p1.html)
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Well, I caved. I got this instead of Street Fighter IV, and it's very obvious that I made the right choice.
Damn. This game is incredible. It's so much better than its predecessors I don't even know where to begin. Basically, the level of detail has just skyrocketed. The gameplay has been scaled way down as I think we've discussed, which means you've got a much tighter experience on the whole. This means more micromanagement, yes, which is something I hate about RTS games, but since everything is more easily distinguishable, you understand the roles of your units better. It ends up evening out. Multiplayer will still end up being totally imbalanced, with ultra-obsessive players slaughtering anyone who doesn't eat, sleep, and breathe the game, but the core gameplay is just way more refined and interesting now. It's much closer to tabletop 40k than the first games were.
The setup for the campaign is breathtaking. Just all the little ways you go about doing everything. Instead of writing it all out again, I'll just post what I threw up in IRC:
<@Que|grumble> Brief update - It's cool. It was hard to believe it when people said the campaign is closer to an action RPG than what the first DoW was, but it actually seems pretty accurate. It's like an RPG/RTS hybrid, with gameplay that feels like an RTS, just way smaller scale with more important unit features.
<@idolminds> ooh, neat!
<@Que|grumble> Your squads gain experience, can find and equip different wargear, and you can choose what stats they upgrade when they go up in level.
<@Que|grumble> You can even switch things like grenades and health packs to different squads.
<@Que|grumble> And weapon wargear, if the chosen unit leader can equip it. It's pretty cool. It seems like there will also be some persistence on the campaign map, where after winning certain positions you get benefits (kind of like the expansions for the first game).
<@Que|grumble> But it's all much better balanced and more slick.
<@Que|grumble> It's also nice because you get a score based on your different actions, and an overall campaign score, and it seems like it'll be somewhat non-linear, with little side missions to do and some timed "do I or don't I?" options you have to get to before they disappear.
<@Que|grumble> Sy's going to go apeshit.
<@Que|grumble> Also, main campaign is fully coop-enabled!
<@idolminds> I was reading comments from one of the IGN editors about how he likes the campagin doesn't really let you go back to a previous save if you lose a battle. Its all about continuing on after the loss
<@Que|grumble> yeah
<@Que|grumble> I like when a game is balanced enough for that. Mount&Blade works that way if you choose that option, and it gives you a better sense of risk and reward.
<@Que|grumble> Not to mention teaches you when it really is time to beat a hasty retreat, or sacrifice some dudes in order to get your ass out.
<@idolminds> yeah
<@Que|grumble> And it looks so good. It's like... butter, if butter wore heavy armor. So it's like... metal butter.
<@idolminds> mmm...metal butter
<@Que|grumble> I can't wait to record a cool match, do a replay, and just zoom in to see unit detail.
<@idolminds> hehe
<@Que|grumble> Anyway, I'll be back at it for a bit.
<@idolminds> k
<@Que|grumble> Damn, Sy is going to die over this. It's so meticulously detailed.
<@idolminds> heh
<@Que|grumble> As you upgrade either health, ranged fighting, melee fighting, or will, you hit little steps which unlock further traits for the squad, which can be virtually anything, and they're all different for each unit.
<@Que|grumble> So you might suddenly be able to equip another piece of wargear on them, or they might gain a new special ability, or they might get an extra accessory slot, or be able to move while firing a bigger gun, or extend their range... totally nuts.
<@idolminds> do not tempt me. Tempting is bd
<@idolminds> bad
<@Que|grumble> And there's like... boss battles. I just fought one.
<@Que|grumble> Similar to something out of Diablo rather than an RTS.
<@idolminds> oh neat
<@Que|grumble> He's got a pattern of stuff he does, and you have to just get your units out of the way and run away from his grenades and stuff, and he takes forever to kill with a big health bar across the top of the screen.
<@Que|grumble> so cool
<@idolminds> haha...fuck. Stop making me want it
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This game is incredible. It really does take the best of Company of Heroes and improve it/skew it toward 40k. But it's just... so stinking good. The campaign is just so much more satisfying than the original game and expansions. It's got the fun strategic map/tactical planning idea of the last 2 expansions, but it extends that with having more of a story around it. It's much more compelling, and the characters are pretty fun. Typical of what you normally see, but there's a lot more dialogue and such, and not so much in the way of cutscenes or whatever. Mostly just roundtable discussions during the tactical display, then radio chatter when you're on the ground.
Love the game, though. So much more fun than standard RTS stuff. I like the idea of RTS games but almost never truly enjoy them at the deepest levels because I'm just not good enough, but I love the way this one works.
And it's effing epic. EPIC.
(http://www.videogamesblogger.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/eldar-fighting-space-marine-in-dawn-of-war-2-screenshot-big.jpg)
(http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2009/019/945727_20090120_screen004.jpg)
(http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2008/353/945727_20081219_screen002.jpg)
Only thing that bums me out is the total lack of multiplayer maps at the moment, and the fact that they're going to be doing DLC. That has the potential to be really fucking lousy. I know they're planning two more free maps almost right away, but... god damn I hate the whole DLC thing. Just fucking hate it.
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Que, yeah -- I prefer Expansion Packs over this whole DLC thing all these games seem to be doing.
All DLC really is are mini-sized expansion packs, usually the size of say an "Episodic" piece of gaming (HL2 Episodes).
Only real DLC that looks more like an expansion pack is GTA4: Lost and the Damned.
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Really spot-on video review from GameReactor.eu (http://www.gamereactor.eu/news/793/GRTV%3A+Dawn+of+War+II+review/). Clocks in at 12 minutes, shows off a lot of gameplay, and totally nails down all the finer points of the main campaign and the core gameplay. It more or less just skims the multiplayer side of things. It's nice, though, because one of the guys is a 40k nut, and the other guy isn't as much, but that other guy is the one doing the review, so he's talking about what the game does right in really showing off the universe and providing information, and how expressive it is, and how the scale works so much better; trying to show that a single Dreadnought is ridiculously powerful, rather than the way the first Dawn of War did it, where you'd end up building 10 of the things and marching them around, traditional RTS-style.
Anyway, really solid review with lots of info. Check it out.
EDIT - Shacknews review (http://www.shacknews.com/featuredarticle.x?id=1079), very descriptive.
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That review by GameReactor was very informative. I'm definitely getting DoW2, it's just a matter of time.
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Given that this turned out even the least bit good, I'm more than happy. The best part is just how well they managed to nail 40K. It almost makes the original game feel like some fan mod that just skins over some generic game. So much of it is just spot on that's its obvious that Relic wasn't just given the license for the game, but that many people over the have a deep love for the universe.
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DoW2 got patched (Again) last night. (http://store.steampowered.com/news/2285/)
Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War II Update Released
February 23, 2009, 7:08 pm - Valve - Product Update
Updates to Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War II have been released. The updates will be applied automatically when your Steam client is restarted. The specific changes include:
Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War II
* Improved memory heap management to reduce 'out-of-memory' crashes that were plaguing certain systems, including 32-Bit Vista on High and Ultra settings. Often reported as 'error 183 failed to create to create dump'
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Just got my hands on DoW2. Updating...
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DoW2 got patched (Again) last night. (http://store.steampowered.com/news/2285/)
Fuck... I have to torrent another goddamn update.
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Yeah, it's kind of a bitch when it decides "fack you, I'm updating now.. wait till I'm done, assface."
Honestly, I really prefer good old fashioned manual updates. The main reasons being that I can download by whichever means I prefer and I can install them when I want.
At least through Steam I always get the fastest download rate on my connection (anywhere from 170 KB/s to ~220 KB/s). I have a 2MB connection, which is currently the fastest available to consumers here and it costs me about $100 USD per month. It's rapage out here. To think that in Canada I was paying $40 CAD for a 5MB line!
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I just had a bit of coop fun in DoW2! It is frickin' awesome. Truly awesome.
It's undeniable that GFWL and Steam simultaneously is so retarded. I'd say it's downright asinine. I really hope Relic decides to drop one and go exclusive with the other. I don't care which one they cure it'll be a hell of an achievement with global appreciation. Kinda like Cancer & AIDS.
For multiplayer GFWL is embedded into the game UI. It's how you join games and invite players to your games. It's not so deeply entrenched that it's a core part of it but I'm pretty sure with clever reverse-engineering it could be patched out.
Steam has no influence on multiplayer, it's just the DRM and update utility. It could have just as easily been implemented as GFWL has been or completely severed.
So to play online you only need a GFWL gamertag, but you need a Steam account to access the game. See the redundancy? Your Steam friends won't be able to join you, just as in L4D, but they'll be able to see that you're currently playing DoW2.
Now, here's the only benefit I can see of having both services crammed into the game: you have the choice for which one you prefer to communicate with. By default the GFWL voice channel is open for all participants, alternatively you can voice chat more privately via Steam's overlay (which also seems to have better network performance overall).
So that's the icing on the turd.
I'm trying to not let it bug me but it's such a nasty scar on what is an otherwise beautiful production.
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wish my pc would run this!
any chance of some screenshots of the awesomeness?
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Right now I'm running on the auto-detect settings which are pretty much medium. I'm gonna test it on high and see how it performs.
My systems specs:
Intel Core2Duo E6750 2.67GHz
2GB DDR2 RAM @ 800MHz
Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTS 320MB
The graphics card is gradually becoming the bottleneck, but it can still handle most things really well.
Will post some screens as soon as I take some! :) I have to get into the habit of posting screenshots.
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Yeah, it's kind of a bitch when it decides "fack you, I'm updating now.. wait till I'm done, assface."
That's annoying as can be, yeah -- especially when everybody and their cousin is probably online trying to get the update at the same time and flooding the servers, fiending for it.
Honestly, I really prefer good old fashioned manual updates. The main reasons being that I can download by whichever means I prefer and I can install them when I want.
And whenever you want, too -- like, I can wait til the patch has been out a few days and the DL's have died down, then grab it. Especially if it's a hefty update.
At least through Steam I always get the fastest download rate on my connection (anywhere from 170 KB/s to ~220 KB/s). I have a 2MB connection, which is currently the fastest available to consumers here and it costs me about $100 USD per month. It's rapage out here. To think that in Canada I was paying $40 CAD for a 5MB line!
Crazy...
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I thought I'd posted some in here at one point? They weren't my own, just some linked ones. I haven't really gotten around to taking any because the game is so intense. Even when I intend to, I just forget.
EDIT - Interesting interview (http://www.music4games.net/Features_Display.aspx?id=332) with the guy who did the music for the game. I'm a pretty big fan of this soundtrack, so I might have to keep on eye on this guy in the future.
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fuck you que..you made me want this game so bad i went out and bought it even though i probably shouldnt have. ARGH. GOOD BYE MONEY
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I doubt you'll regret it. It's high quality entertainment.
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Man. DoW2 is addictive!!
Coop is a lot of fun! I only wish they made it possible to have more than 2 players. Imagine 4 players, each one controlling a squad!
The guy playing the FC will be playing the game like Diablo :P
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I can see why they didn't. Controlling 2 squads givesyou enough to do and still feel occupied, but only 1 would be boring as hell. 4 is almost perfect because it gives you lots to do and think about, but you aren't completely overwhelmed. 4 split between 2 players is also good because you can talk to each other about tactics and such as you go, forming and executing plans on the fly. I can't see that working well with 4 people, though. The roles would be pretty strict if you were to succeed, and it would get boring simply telling the assault troops to jump into melee over and over again.
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Big update!
Excerpt:
Updates to Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War II have been released. The updates will be applied automatically when your Steam client is restarted. The specific changes include:
New Content
* Two on Two game mode is now available for ranked play.
* Two new four-player maps have been added to the game: (4p) Medean Cliff Mines and (4p) Ruins of Argus. These are available for ranked and custom games.
* We have added a benchmarking performance test; you can find it in the Graphics options tab.
* There are eight new sync kill animations in the game. Keep your eyes open for some new carnage!
New Options
* We have added a "Push to Talk" option for in-game voice chat. When enabled in the Game Options screen, tilde (~) will control chat.
* We have also added a "Advanced Sub-selection" game option. When enabled sub-selection behavior will be the same as Company of Heroes, where a sub-selected squad will be the only one to receive orders.
Stability
* Fixed several crashes where invalid data was being written to logs.
* Fixed a common multithreading crash.
* Fixed some out-of-memory crashes on Vista 32.
* Fixed a crash that could occur if Avitus was reinforcing when a game ended.
More info here (http://store.steampowered.com/news/2495/).
I'm glad they activated the 2v2 and push-to-talk.
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Steam has the entire THQ Collector's Pack on sale for $74.99, which now includes DOW2. (http://store.steampowered.com/news/2772/)
WEEKEND DEAL - Save 25% on the THQ Collector Pack, which now includes Dawn of War II
August 27, 2009, 12:51 pm - Valve - General Announcement
The weekend starts early with 25% off the THQ Collector Pack.
With the addition of Dawn of War II, the pack also includes:
Company of Heroes
Company of Heroes: Opposing Fronts
Frontlines: Fuel of War
Juiced 2: Hot Import Nights
S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl
Titan Quest
Titan Quest - Immortal Throne
Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War - Dark Crusade
Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War - Gold Edition
Warhammer 40K: Dawn of War - Soulstorm
Full Spectrum Warrior* and
Full Spectrum Warrior: Ten Hammers*
(*Full Spectrum Warrior games not available in Germany - sorry but still a great deal, right?)
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DOW2 will get FREE DLC come October.
The name of this content -- The Last Stand DLC. (http://store.steampowered.com/news/2780/)
Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War II Free DLC Coming
August 28, 2009, 4:39 pm - Valve - General Announcement
Coming in October, THQ will be releasing free DLC for Warhammer® 40,000™: Dawn of War® II, wich will feature a new cooperative multiplayer game mode and maps. Check out the Last Stand announcement trailer for a tease at the upcoming game mode. (http://store.steampowered.com/app/5368/)
The Last Stand is a cooperative survival mode that gives gamers control of an individual hero unit and drops a small multiplayer team into a battle with impossible odds. Players can choose between a Space Marine Captain, Eldar Farseer or Ork Mekboy and will team up with two other squad-mates in an attempt to hold out as long as possible against wave after wave of relentless attackers. Hero units level up and are fully customizable as new armor and weapons become available from game to game. Working together to devise innovative strategies is the key to success in this brand-new battle mode.
The Last Stand update, which will be free, also contains two new multiplayer maps, balance updates and bug fixes for Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War II.
But why wait until October to get into Dawn of War 2? Buy it now as part of the THQ Collector pack, on sale for an additional 25% off the already awesome package price this weekend only.
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Awesome! It's gonna be a bit more RPG since you'll focus only controlling the one unit.
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Relic - Dev Diary on The Last Stand DLC
Video of Relic designers talking about and showing off some of The Last Stand stuff. (http://community.dawnofwar2.com/blog-post/feature-last-stand)
Patch 1.8 - Release Notes (AKA The Last Stand Patch)
Here's the long extensive list of additions, changes, balances, and other stuff for the upcoming Patch 1.8. (http://community.dawnofwar2.com/forums/topic/34142)
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Man, compared to DoW1 it's taking a while to expand on DoW2! DOn't get me wrong it's a great game but part of the attraction was Relic's drive to expand and improve upon their core games.
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I don't know about that. It took a good couple of years before Dark Crusade came out and really update the formula. It seems like things are actually moving faster with DoW2.
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Dark Crusade was the second expansion. Winter Assault came out just a year after DoW was released. Even before Winter Assault there were several patches, each packaged with some content (mainly multiplayer maps). For DoW2 we've only seen two updates that added some content (one of which was a major update that added 2v2 online gameplay). In all fairness it hasn't been a full year since release yet, that'll be around Feb 2010, which is likely when the Chaos Rising expansion is due.
Eitehr way I'm really looking forward to The Last Stand. Should be oodles of fun!
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Saw this in Best Buy's flyer. They're getting these new DOW2 games this Thursday (according to the flyer), which they have on sale for this week.
DOW2: Gold Edition (DOW2 + Chaos Rising expansion) = $39.99.
DOW2: Chaos Rising (Expansion) = $29.99.
500 RZ Gamer Points if you buy DOW2: CR.
(which is equal to a $10 Reward Zone Certificate for future purchase).
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I noticed earlier today that DoW updated to include the new units for the expansion. That is, all owners of the game will get the new units for the existing races and will be able to play against people with the expansion, they just won't get to use the Chaos. Cool stuff. I'm off to see how the Tyranids fared.
Edit: Awesome. You can even play against Chaos in single player skirmishes now. That's sweet.
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Ah! This is what I've been waiting for! Relic always do great stuff to expand the base games.
Since I can't seem to find the Chaos Rising expansion individually in any retail stores, I'm actually considering buying the full Dow2 + Chaos Rising pack and then gifting the extra DoW2 to someone who hasn't played it yet.
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DOW 2 - Gold Edition = $19.99 on Steam this weekend.
DOW 2 Gold = DOW2 + Chaos Rising expansion. (http://store.steampowered.com/sub/4026/)
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Dawn of War 2 - Retribution (Expansion Pack) announced. (http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/65169)
The SP campaign will have multiple races to select from, if you want to do their particular campaign.
We know The Orks will have a SP campaign that you can play as.
There will be new MP units and new MP maps.
There will be new races for the game (SP and MP), too.
More details to come.
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Excellent. I still love Relic :)
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Shacknews -> Dawn Of War 2: Retribution = more info revealed on it. (http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/65587)
DOW2: Retribution will be a stand-alone product.
There is no additional G4WL involved here in Retribution at all.
Retribution only uses Steamworks.
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Thats not surprising since DoW2 was Steam only anyway.
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Thats not surprising since DoW2 was Steam only anyway.
Wait...I thought DOW2 + Chaos Rising - MP portion used both Steam and G4WL?
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It did. I meant it required Steam anyway. Though I guess I was thinking of a different definition of "Steam only" when you meant as opposed to "Steam and something else".
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At first I thought D meant it's only available on Steam (not just that it requires it). Then his second sentence clarified that it will have no G4WL, which I can appreciate. Although I was hoping Relic would eventually patch G4WL out of the original game since it had no reason to be there.
For some really wishful thinking, I keep hoping Microsoft will eventually abandon G4WL after realizing how redundant it really is and then patch it out of all currently released titles. I know I'm dreaming but they seriously need to make it useful or get rid of it altogether.
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Okay, I've re-written my sentence from that post. Should be much clearer now.
About G4WL - what I like about it is I can contact G4WL players AND XBL players. You can also look at their achievements. Other than that, it sucks big time. I wish Microsoft would overhaul the hell out of it. It's way behind Steam - in terms of its tools, utilities, community, and whatnot.
One thing I'd wish Steam and G4WL just do - give the player and option to enable or disable the damn program. It should be an option, not a requirement - especially on SP-based components.
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The horrors of preorders and DLC (http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/67045).
THQ has announced that the stand-alone expansion, Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War II - Retribution, is now available for pre-order on Steam and THQ.com, in the form of a collector's edition, as well as six individual "race packs."
Each of the six "race packs" (which also include the game itself) provide additional goodies for one of the game's six factions, are digital download-only offerings, and will only be available until the game releases exclusively on Windows PC on March 1, 2011.
Each race pack retails for $29.99, and provides players with four unique abilities and "bonus Wargear items" for the race associated with the pack, and can be used during the single-player campaign. That said, THQ notes that the bonus content included in each pack will be made available for purchase separately on Steam after the game's release "for a nominal fee."
The collectors edition is $39.99 and contains all the race packs, but can only be purchased through the THQ online store.
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Huh. Messy, but actually don't entirely dislike it... it sort of reminds me from ordering things from LucasArts years ago. I don't really have a problem with ordering from THQ for the collectors edition. As for the race packs, they're just extra gear that don't really affect the complete game. For a $30 expansion pack, that's kinda cool you can pick your side and get some extra goodies. At first glance it seemed like this was going to be about how each race was $30, that would be terrible.
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So yeah - when's the DOW2: Ultimate Edition w/ everything coming to Steam?
And when's the crazy Steam sale for it? ;)
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DOW2: Retribution - TRAILER. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnmZ4YzSyIo&feature=player_embedded)
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DOW2: Retribution - REVIEWS
PC Gamer -> 88 (out of 100). (http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/03/02/dawn-of-war-ii-retribution-review/)
Destructoid -> 8.5 (out of 10). (http://www.destructoid.com/review-dawn-of-war-ii-retribution-195465.phtml)
Games.On.Net -> 4 stars [out of 5]. (http://games.on.net/article/11769/2_Minute_Review_Dawn_of_War_II_-_Retribution)