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Title: Apparently Apple Sells "Refreshed" Laptop Filled With Porn To 11 Year Old Girl
Post by: Pugnate on Friday, December 01, 2006, 07:08:18 AM
linky (http://www.consumerist.com/consumer/apple/apple-sells-refreshed-laptop-filled-with-porn-to-11-year-old-girl-218422.php)

Ummm... why not contact them first? He is deliberately making as big a deal out of this as possible. It is obvious that it was some employee's mistake, so why not contact the local store?
Title: Re: Apparently Apple Sells "Refreshed" Laptop Filled With Porn To 11 Year Old Gi
Post by: Xessive on Friday, December 01, 2006, 10:42:28 AM
Wow, that was blown out of proportion. I imagine the guy is probably some tiny dude who was bullied most of his life, so his natural reaction is to over-react.
Title: Re: Apparently Apple Sells "Refreshed" Laptop Filled With Porn To 11 Year Old Girl
Post by: Ace_O_Spades on Friday, December 01, 2006, 02:02:00 PM
I don't see how this is newsworthy
Title: Re: Apparently Apple Sells "Refreshed" Laptop Filled With Porn To 11 Year Old Girl
Post by: Cools on Friday, December 01, 2006, 02:07:15 PM
Haha, that's awesome! But here's my question, who buys an 11 year old a laptop? And I'm guessing, why wasn't the parent present when the girl turned it on in the first place? It's not like the pics where hidden somewhere inside the filesystem, and the parent could've spotted it right away?
Title: Re: Apparently Apple Sells "Refreshed" Laptop Filled With Porn To 11 Year Old Gi
Post by: Cobra951 on Friday, December 01, 2006, 02:22:14 PM
Well, I bought my 12-year-old girl a laptop.  That was 3 years ago.  I don't think she could do without it now.  I paid to fix a frozen fan this past Summer.  She's very smart, though, and was pretty much up to speed as a user even then.

My question here would be what proof does this guy have?  Anyone can backdate a PC and load up old porn.  Did Apple admit to the oversight?  I can see it being a big deal with authoritarian, puri-tyrannical morons, not us (hopefully).
Title: Re: Apparently Apple Sells "Refreshed" Laptop Filled With Porn To 11 Year Old Gi
Post by: Quemaqua on Saturday, December 02, 2006, 02:42:10 PM
I'd be pretty damned pissed about that, and I can't believe anyone would say this guy doesn't have a right to be outraged.  While I probably wouldn't be buying my kid a laptop either, I don't think there's anything to indicate that she turned it on without him there.  He just probably immediately noticed there was porno on it and got ticked off.  I mean, that's a pretty bad oversight.

Again, though, I do wonder whether or not what Cobra said might have something to do with it and he rigged it in order to cause a stink.  Nonetheless, if it's true, I think he has every right to be pissed off.  You guys often forget that there are people out there who see porn as wrong, and not all of them are puritanical weirdos, even.  I'd say a person would have a right to be upset about that.
Title: Re: Apparently Apple Sells "Refreshed" Laptop Filled With Porn To 11 Year Old Gi
Post by: Pugnate on Saturday, December 02, 2006, 02:51:40 PM
I think he has a right to be angry and an 11 year old having seen porn is shocking... The first thing I would have done in that situation is call the store... not my MP.
Title: Re: Apparently Apple Sells "Refreshed" Laptop Filled With Porn To 11 Year Old Gi
Post by: Quemaqua on Saturday, December 02, 2006, 02:59:20 PM
*Shrug*  I guess.  But that's negligence on the part of the store, and it isn't like they're going to discipline themselves about it.  I'm sure he wants to see them punished for it in some way, not just get a discount or whatever.
Title: Re: Apparently Apple Sells "Refreshed" Laptop Filled With Porn To 11 Year Old Girl
Post by: idolminds on Saturday, December 02, 2006, 03:29:01 PM
You know, I'd pay extra to have a laptop with porn preinstalled.
Title: Re: Apparently Apple Sells "Refreshed" Laptop Filled With Porn To 11 Year Old Girl
Post by: Cools on Saturday, December 02, 2006, 04:49:42 PM
Pay me, I'll do it for ya. :P

But yeah, I think the first thing he should've done is contact the store/Apple.
Title: Re: Apparently Apple Sells "Refreshed" Laptop Filled With Porn To 11 Year Old Gi
Post by: Quemaqua on Sunday, December 03, 2006, 01:07:49 AM
Technology in another 10 years:

Microsoft: "Windows now has 100% more NAKED CHICKS with the NAKED CHICKS Windows X200™!  Just use the Install New NAKED CHICKS Wizard to download and install the latest updates to your NAKED CHICKS Windows X200™ software.  Note: requires at least 256MB of SexRAM on a SexualX8 video/physics card."

Mac: "OSxxx is on the way!  Now you can have all the virtual desktop sex you ever wanted from virtual women wrapped in COLORFUL MOLDED PLASTIC!  The wave of the future is here, and you can use its boobs to play all your latest DRM-laden purchases from iTunes!  Just hold command and hit your SEX key to instantly load a woman draped in the colored plastic of your choice!  Warning: requires QuickieTime ver. 2069, which still doesn't actually work."
Title: Re: Apparently Apple Sells "Refreshed" Laptop Filled With Porn To 11 Year Old Girl
Post by: idolminds on Sunday, December 03, 2006, 09:35:35 AM
The future is bright indeed.
Title: Re: Apparently Apple Sells "Refreshed" Laptop Filled With Porn To 11 Year Old Gi
Post by: Cobra951 on Sunday, December 03, 2006, 01:35:55 PM
I remember when I got the laptop, I spent days making sure it was set up the way I wanted it, before my girl even saw it.  I can't see handing an 11 or 12-year-old a computer of any kind without looking at it first.  I can handle porn being left behind by a previous owner, although I'd make a stink about it too, if I got it from an official source like Apple.
Title: Re: Apparently Apple Sells "Refreshed" Laptop Filled With Porn To 11 Year Old Girl
Post by: ren on Sunday, December 03, 2006, 03:07:30 PM
In a lot of cases that the 11 year olds know much more about computers than the parents. Parents often have their kids set up their computers for them.
Title: Re: Apparently Apple Sells "Refreshed" Laptop Filled With Porn To 11 Year Old Girl
Post by: Ace_O_Spades on Sunday, December 03, 2006, 03:55:11 PM
I still fail to see how this is newsworthy...

Is sex really that evil?
Title: Re: Apparently Apple Sells "Refreshed" Laptop Filled With Porn To 11 Year Old Gi
Post by: Cobra951 on Sunday, December 03, 2006, 04:39:16 PM
Sex?  No.  What's evil is the adult reaction to the sexuality of minors.  By allowing your child to get over the pathetic phobias against the very subject of sex in the USA too early, you are risking them or you becoming the objects of witch hunts and ridicule.  It's the parents who should know how to deal with the issue and guide their children, but let's be fair.  They too were brought up in ignorance and fear about the subject.  They too must function in a puritanical society.

Giving your 11-year-old a PC full of porn may even land you in jail, or more easily, see you lose your children to some state agency.  Is that evil enough for you?
Title: Re: Apparently Apple Sells "Refreshed" Laptop Filled With Porn To 11 Year Old Girl
Post by: Ace_O_Spades on Sunday, December 03, 2006, 05:46:22 PM
eh, I see your point.

conceded.
Title: Re: Apparently Apple Sells "Refreshed" Laptop Filled With Porn To 11 Year Old Gi
Post by: WindAndConfusion on Sunday, December 03, 2006, 09:00:08 PM
By allowing your child to get over the pathetic phobias against the very subject of sex in the USA too early, you are risking them or you becoming the objects of witch hunts and ridicule.
Er, this was in the UK.
Title: Re: Apparently Apple Sells "Refreshed" Laptop Filled With Porn To 11 Year Old Gi
Post by: Quemaqua on Sunday, December 03, 2006, 11:43:58 PM
Just because we don't think sex should be flaunted about in public and that pornography is negative doesn't mean we're ignorant about sex, by the by.
Title: Re: Apparently Apple Sells "Refreshed" Laptop Filled With Porn To 11 Year Old Gi
Post by: Pugnate on Monday, December 04, 2006, 12:24:57 AM
OK fine some of you think that nudity is ok -- which I disagree with -- but pornography too? An 11 year old shouldn't see porn.

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Is sex really that evil?

Sure, but is porn really sex? It is one thing to give your kids sexual education -- which is again something I disagree with -- and another to show them porn. To me there is a vast difference between sexual education and porn.
Title: Re: Apparently Apple Sells "Refreshed" Laptop Filled With Porn To 11 Year Old Gi
Post by: WindAndConfusion on Monday, December 04, 2006, 02:26:54 AM
Sure, but is porn really sex? It is one thing to give your kids sexual education -- which is again something I disagree with -- and another to show them porn.
Maybe. But I still think that it was highly inappropriate that he contacted his MP instead of the store (or Apple's corporate) - who of course are in a better position to do something about it.
Title: Re: Apparently Apple Sells "Refreshed" Laptop Filled With Porn To 11 Year Old Gi
Post by: Cobra951 on Monday, December 04, 2006, 01:18:12 PM
Pornography is very inappropriate for children, anywhere.  Having re-read what I posted, I wanted to make sure to say that.  The only question I tried to answer in some absolute way was whether sex itself is evil.  (I don't think so.)

If this really happened, it's a problem for Apple, even in the UK.  It would have been a bigger one here, I'm pretty sure.
Title: Re: Apparently Apple Sells "Refreshed" Laptop Filled With Porn To 11 Year Old Gi
Post by: Quemaqua on Monday, December 04, 2006, 07:16:31 PM
How could anybody think sex is evil?  Sex is awesome.  I have it as often as possible... but just with my wife.
Title: Re: Apparently Apple Sells "Refreshed" Laptop Filled With Porn To 11 Year Old Gi
Post by: Xessive on Monday, December 04, 2006, 08:42:49 PM
Sex is a beautiful thang! And some day when I get a wife we'll be makin' sweet music ~all night long, all night~.. Well, I hope..

Sex is not evil.. It's like saying "kicking is evil!" If you're kicking a football, you're playing.. If you're kicking a nun, then you're evil and probably in need of serious mental help.. some acts of redemption wouldn't hurt too.

Sex is biological/physical/chemical (biophysical/biochemical?) communication! It's absolutely natural.
Title: Re: Apparently Apple Sells "Refreshed" Laptop Filled With Porn To 11 Year Old Gi
Post by: Pugnate on Monday, December 04, 2006, 10:39:22 PM
Unless you are kicking Mother Theresa, then it is not evil.
Title: Re: Apparently Apple Sells "Refreshed" Laptop Filled With Porn To 11 Year Old Gi
Post by: WindAndConfusion on Monday, December 04, 2006, 10:46:48 PM
I understand Mother Theresa was actually a medieval fundamentalist nutjob who lived her life as a PR spokesman for the Roman Catholic Church, and whose famous "homes for the poor" were really just grossly underfurnished holes in the wall for sick people to suffer until they died. (The Catholic Church has a bit of a hard-on for human suffering.)

Penn & Teller did an episode of Bullshit where they touched on this, so if I'm completely wrong and I just made an ass of myself, blame them. Except for the part about the Catholic Church getting an erection, that was me.
Title: Re: Apparently Apple Sells "Refreshed" Laptop Filled With Porn To 11 Year Old Gi
Post by: Quemaqua on Monday, December 04, 2006, 10:50:13 PM
Actually, I remember there being a stink about that not all that long ago.  People saying she was actually this horrible bitch and did all these terrible things.
Title: Re: Apparently Apple Sells "Refreshed" Laptop Filled With Porn To 11 Year Old Gi
Post by: Xessive on Tuesday, December 05, 2006, 01:02:27 AM
I thought she looked a lot like Pablo Picasso.. Y'know, he looks like a potato.
Title: Re: Apparently Apple Sells "Refreshed" Laptop Filled With Porn To 11 Year Old Gi
Post by: sirean_syan on Tuesday, December 05, 2006, 01:55:16 AM
That's just old age.
Title: Re: Apparently Apple Sells "Refreshed" Laptop Filled With Porn To 11 Year Old Gi
Post by: Pugnate on Tuesday, December 05, 2006, 09:15:50 AM
I think people tend to exaggerate anything in life. If she was good then she was magnificent and if she was bad then she was an evil bitch. For the most part she did a lot of good in India, but she did have her own agendas and there was some ugliness in there as well. But the world was a better place for her being...
Title: Re: Apparently Apple Sells "Refreshed" Laptop Filled With Porn To 11 Year Old Gi
Post by: Ghandi on Tuesday, December 05, 2006, 10:25:52 AM
People saying she was actually this horrible bitch and did all these terrible things.

...and then praising Paris Hilton for being the savior of the world.
Title: Re: Apparently Apple Sells "Refreshed" Laptop Filled With Porn To 11 Year Old Gi
Post by: Quemaqua on Tuesday, December 05, 2006, 07:34:24 PM
You just made me want to kill myself.
Title: Re: Apparently Apple Sells "Refreshed" Laptop Filled With Porn To 11 Year Old Gi
Post by: Pugnate on Tuesday, December 05, 2006, 07:51:35 PM
...and then praising Paris Hilton for being the savior of the world....and then praising Paris Hilton for being the savior of the world....and then praising Paris Hilton for being the savior of the world....and then praising Paris Hilton for being the savior of the world....and then praising Paris Hilton for being the savior of the world....and then praising Paris Hilton for being the savior of the world....and then praising Paris Hilton for being the savior of the world....and then praising Paris Hilton for being the savior of the world....and then praising Paris Hilton for being the savior of the world....and then praising Paris Hilton for being the savior of the world....and then praising Paris Hilton for being the savior of the world....and then praising Paris Hilton for being the savior of the world....and then praising Paris Hilton for being the savior of the world....and then praising Paris Hilton for being the savior of the world....and then praising Paris Hilton for being the savior of the world....and then praising Paris Hilton for being the savior of the world....and then praising Paris Hilton for being the savior of the world....and then praising Paris Hilton for being the savior of the world....and then praising Paris Hilton for being the savior of the world....and then praising Paris Hilton for being the savior of the world....and then praising Paris Hilton for being the savior of the world....and then praising Paris Hilton for being the savior of the world....and then praising Paris Hilton for being the savior of the world....and then praising Paris Hilton for being the savior of the world....and then praising Paris Hilton for being the savior of the world....and then praising Paris Hilton for being the savior of the world....and then praising Paris Hilton for being the savior of the world....and then praising Paris Hilton for being the savior of the world....and then praising Paris Hilton for being the savior of the world....and then praising Paris Hilton for being the savior of the world....and then praising Paris Hilton for being the savior of the world....and then praising Paris Hilton for being the savior of the world....and then praising Paris Hilton for being the savior of the world....and then praising Paris Hilton for being the savior of the world....and then praising Paris Hilton for being the savior of the world.



*watches Que die*
Title: Re: Apparently Apple Sells "Refreshed" Laptop Filled With Porn To 11 Year Old Gi
Post by: Ghandi on Tuesday, December 05, 2006, 10:33:02 PM
No really, there's only so many times I can read that before I also want to kill myself.
Title: Re: Apparently Apple Sells "Refreshed" Laptop Filled With Porn To 11 Year Old Gi
Post by: Quemaqua on Tuesday, December 05, 2006, 10:43:40 PM
/me kills Pug instead
Title: Re: Apparently Apple Sells "Refreshed" Laptop Filled With Porn To 11 Year Old Gi
Post by: Pugnate on Wednesday, December 06, 2006, 12:43:26 AM
OK why am I in hell?
Title: Re: Apparently Apple Sells "Refreshed" Laptop Filled With Porn To 11 Year Old Gi
Post by: Quemaqua on Wednesday, December 06, 2006, 01:10:17 AM
Because I know a guy.
Title: Re: Apparently Apple Sells "Refreshed" Laptop Filled With Porn To 11 Year Old Gi
Post by: Pugnate on Wednesday, December 06, 2006, 01:18:56 AM
Why am I suddenly surrounded by lawyers?