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Title: I fucking hate prosecutors
Post by: Pugnate on Wednesday, February 14, 2007, 01:24:12 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2007/LAW/02/13/teacher.porn.ap/index.html

It is obvious from the Duke's case among others that prosecutors are just as low as defense attorneys, except a lot worse since they are supposed to be representing the government.

Check out the case above.

Why the hell would that woman want to show kids porn? Her story is definitely credible and can happen to anyone. You never know what site  will have porn popups. Now she is facing 40 years in prison.

Yes kids seeing that is quite horrible. I'd be outraged as a parent. But I think people should realize that shit happens. Why the fuck do we need someone to blame?

Forty years... for a substitute teacher.

This matter should have ended right then and there after her explanation, but she's had to live in tension since October 2004. W T F?

Prosecutors seem to care little about the cases and just want to make names for themselves.
Title: Re: I fucking hate prosectuors
Post by: Quemaqua on Wednesday, February 14, 2007, 01:32:59 AM
Yeah, that's ridiculous.  The legal system here has gone completely insane.  Stuff like this seems to be happening more and more.
Title: Re: I fucking hate prosecutors
Post by: shock on Wednesday, February 14, 2007, 09:40:27 AM
I don't understand how that crime carries 40 years.  It's ridiculous.  If she would have killed a few of the kids and passed it off as an accident she would have gotten less time.
Title: Re: I fucking hate prosecutors
Post by: Pugnate on Wednesday, February 14, 2007, 09:49:48 AM
She was a nervous sub. teacher.

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Amero says she chased the students away and started class. But later, she says, pornographic images started popping up on the computer screen by themselves. She says she tried to click the images off, but they kept returning, and she was under strict orders not to shut the computer off.

"I did everything I possibly could to keep them from seeing anything," she says.

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"So many kids noticed this going on," Steinmetz said. "It was truly uncalled for. I would not want my child in her classroom. All she had to do was throw a coat over it or unplug it. We figured even if there were pop-ups, would you sit there?"

She made a mistake. Fire her! Don't throw her in a jail full of nut jobs!

I hope she doesn't get jail time. Let's see what the prosecutor recommends. He's got his conviction so maybe that's all he was after.

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Smith, the prosecutor, would not say what he plans to recommend when Amero is sentenced March 2. John Newsone, a defense attorney in Norwich familiar with the case, said Amero might be spared prison or face perhaps a year to 18 months.

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I don't understand how that crime carries 40 years.

Yea it is theoretically 40 years but it is up to the recommendation of the prosecutor. I don't think a day is even fair to her. It was a mistake, how can you punish someone for a mistake like that?

How do I know it was a mistake? No way in hell would she want kids to see that crap. And when pop ups like that start flying sometimes it is hard to control them. I am sure she was nervous infront of the kids.
Title: Re: I fucking hate prosecutors
Post by: idolminds on Wednesday, February 14, 2007, 10:25:29 AM
Oh no, they saw boobies. Why do we think this will scar children for life?
Title: Re: I fucking hate prosecutors
Post by: WindAndConfusion on Wednesday, February 14, 2007, 10:42:09 AM
I've read about this case before. The prosecutor is a real douche. In a previous story he was quoted as saying (paraphrase) that 'you have to physically click on it.' (The physical click, of course, being necessary to drive the levers and pulleys that make the Internet go.)
Why the hell would that woman want to show kids porn? Her story is definitely credible and can happen to anyone. You never know what site  will have porn popups. Now she is facing 40 years in prison.
That's the "maximum sentence," which the media calculates by adding together the stiffest possible statutory sentences, while ignoring the fact that (in the real world) there are sentencing guidelines, multiple counts of the same charge don't stack like that, etc.

Did you know the US has the highest incarceration rate in the world? Also the second-highest rate for executing prisoners (behind China).
Title: Re: I fucking hate prosecutors
Post by: Pugnate on Wednesday, February 14, 2007, 10:51:43 AM
Is that per capita?

I think the US compared to the rest of the world has a great legal system, but the strength is its flaw. The strength is that it is basically a competition between the defense and the prosecution. This way both try their damn best to win... the flaw is that sometimes prosecutors don't seem to give a rat's ass about the case.

Look at the Duke's Lacrosse case. What the hell was that guy thinking?
Title: Re: I fucking hate prosecutors
Post by: WindAndConfusion on Wednesday, February 14, 2007, 11:28:32 AM
Is that per capita?
Incarceration rate is by definition per capita. So, yes.
Title: Re: I fucking hate prosecutors
Post by: Pugnate on Wednesday, February 14, 2007, 11:30:07 AM
So to answer your question, no I didn't know.
Title: Re: I fucking hate prosecutors
Post by: iPPi on Wednesday, February 14, 2007, 04:32:13 PM
That's fucking ridiculous.
Title: Re: I fucking hate prosecutors
Post by: Ghandi on Wednesday, February 14, 2007, 04:40:22 PM
Forty years is insane. Not to mention, these kids are in SEVENTH GRADE! Half of them probably go home and look at porn anyways.
Title: Re: I fucking hate prosecutors
Post by: Quemaqua on Wednesday, February 14, 2007, 08:48:13 PM
At PlanetQuake a 14 year old kid programmed us some new Lith-style forums when the place went with trendy BB stuff, and he had like 5 gigs of porn on a little keychain drive thing.  Whoops.  That doesn't make this kind of thing right in any way, but an accident is an accident.  Saying this was anything else without sufficient evidence is fucking garbage and should be treated as nothing less.