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Title: OW logo thread
Post by: idolminds on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 11:28:36 AM
I've been trying to come up with some sort of logo for OW, but am having trouble getting ideas. So I thought it would be a good idea to start this thread where we can work things out.

For starters, lets get some input from everyone. Post logos and art that you like the style of. Doesn't have to be game related, just that you think our logo would be good in that kind of style or theme. Then we can work off of that to design something unique.
Title: Re: OW logo thread
Post by: sirean_syan on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 03:26:20 PM
While I'm generally of the mind that simple logos are best, I'm also thinking that really doesn't go with a name like Overwritten. Maybe something that had a really complex background, but a strong OW or Overwritten in the middle that standout out making the background a little useless.

I've thought about this from time to time, but that was more or less the better of the ideas I had.

All else fails, we put a zombie and a cute cat in there. You can't go wrong.
Title: Re: OW logo thread
Post by: Antares on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 03:41:52 PM
http://homomojo.com/


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just kidding.
Title: Re: OW logo thread
Post by: PyroMenace on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 05:59:08 PM
I was thinking perhaps something that would pay homage to our old forums, The Minds Eye. Something sort of like this, its just a rough idea, in general Im just saying we could through the eye symbol in there with the OW.

(http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/1429/owlogosg0.jpg)
Title: Re: OW logo thread
Post by: Pugnate on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 06:23:21 PM
lol ant.

I think something simply yet classy would be the way to go.
Title: Re: OW logo thread
Post by: idolminds on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 07:05:44 PM
Some ispiration:

This is useful (http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=101793494&size=o&context=set-72057594060779001)...seeing a bunch of logos at once. Its all "web 2.0", but good for inspiration.
Cool (http://logopond.com/), theres a site for this kind of thing.
With font info...neat (http://www.fontshop.com/fontfeed/archives/the-logos-of-web-20/)
More logos. (http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2007/03/13/inspire-yourself-58-creative-logos/)
Title: Re: OW logo thread
Post by: Quemaqua on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 07:13:32 PM
Pyro's idea isn't half bad.  Just do it stylized enough and it could look cool.  However, I have to say something with a zombie in it is going to get my vote almost regardless of anything else.  How about... zombie with a typewriter?  =D

I haven't really had the chance to do much at work last few days, and the one chance I did have I forgot to use for this, so... yeah.

Oh, and as an added note, I think the thing should either work so it can be scaled up or down to fill more or less space depending on where we might want to use it, or we should design a couple different ones for different uses (i.e. have a large, rectangular one to title the main page, then have small, square one for other places we might want it but not want it to take up so much space).

From what Idol posted there:

The first one is a nice example of the simple-is-better philosophy.  Simple, neat, usable.  Don't have to do too much to it.  Maybe a small graphic, some text, done.  Whatever.  Those work and you can kind of throw them around easily.

For the second link, if we wanted to do something a bit more unique, I liked the idea behind the Octonaut (http://logopond.com/gallery/detail/10393) logo.  I think something like that would work for us.  The graphic isn't too simple, but it isn't overly complex, either.  Something easily vectored, which would keep it easy to manipulate and allow us to futz with it for different things.  Simple text to accompany it.  That kind of thing would be ideal for us, I think.  Nothing too flashy or distracting, keeping it memorable, but nothing so hard to create that it would drive any of us mad.  Like if we coupled Pyro's TME/OW idea with some attractive text and a nice color combo... that'd probably be an easy sell to the average reader right there.
Title: Re: OW logo thread
Post by: idolminds on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 07:18:20 PM
More logos (http://www.logoblog.org/wordpress/creative-logos/)
Even more logos (http://logo-design.info/)
Books and articles! (http://logopond.com/resources/)

This is fun. I like this kind of crap.
Title: Re: OW logo thread
Post by: Antares on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 07:19:59 PM
I really like the cartoonish simplicity of this one:

http://logopond.com/gallery/detail/10393
Title: Re: OW logo thread
Post by: Quemaqua on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 07:25:23 PM
See my post above about that very same logo.
Title: Re: OW logo thread
Post by: idolminds on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 07:31:06 PM
Yeah, that one is really nice. It was the first one I clicked on when I saw it.

On a side note, I had this image of a coat of arms with a game theme to it in my head. Where all the frilly stuff around the shield is game related, like controllers and stuff. Might be hard to make look good and be a little "busy".
Title: Re: OW logo thread
Post by: Quemaqua on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 07:42:39 PM
Doesn't mean it wouldn't be worth making.  Just might not be usable as our main logo... might have a place somewhere else around, though.
Title: Re: OW logo thread
Post by: ren on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 02:37:42 PM
Overwritten lends itself to the whole graffiti kind of thing because of...writing over stuff. No idea how that would work as a logo but just a thought.
Title: Re: OW logo thread
Post by: idolminds on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 02:40:40 PM
I actually was thinking how to work a graffiti angle on it. When I told my mom I was working on a logo for overwritten she said "What about a billboard with graffiti on it?"
Title: Re: OW logo thread
Post by: beo on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 02:52:10 PM
i've tried to have a go at this (with no success), and my opinion is that a logo based around the entire "written" theme isn't the best way to go. i think we're far better off going with visual themes based on gaming as that's far more relevant to the site we're trying to create.

would we able to use images from well known retro games, or would there be copyright issues?
Title: Re: OW logo thread
Post by: Ghandi on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 05:00:18 PM
Maybe something like graffiti over a gaming billboard? I was just thinking of how to incorporate  graffiti and gaming into one concept- they are both good ideas.
Title: Re: OW logo thread
Post by: idolminds on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 05:42:35 PM
Going with what beo said, I thought maybe something pixelated, retro, and not unnecessarily anything to do with the name of the site might make a cool logo. You know, something more akin to a mascot. So I give you....Skully! (not official name)

(http://user.mc.net/~pbsmith/pics/art/pixelskull-tiny.png)

And so you can actually *see* him...

(http://user.mc.net/~pbsmith/pics/art/pixelskull-big.png)
Title: Re: OW logo thread
Post by: sirean_syan on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 05:46:19 PM
You know, I actually think a pixelated thing can rock. Something as simple as an OW in blocky pixel letters, or maybe add a bit of flurishing could be fun. It shows a love of games that goes back to the beginning.
Title: Re: OW logo thread
Post by: NatchDan on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 06:07:00 PM
(http://www.natchdan.com/filedump/gbow.jpg)
Title: Re: OW logo thread
Post by: sirean_syan on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 06:43:34 PM
I think we got a winner.
Title: Re: OW logo thread
Post by: beo on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 07:23:18 PM
just to throw an idea into the mix, here's something:

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f57/slothman1982/ow1-2.gif)

don't mistake it as an actual attempt at a finished logo, i'm just messing with ideas.
Title: Re: OW logo thread
Post by: idolminds on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 07:40:10 PM
I ddint know you did pixel art, beo. Thats pretty sweet.
Title: Re: OW logo thread
Post by: Quemaqua on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 07:46:36 PM
I fully agree with beo's thing about having it be more about gaming and not so much on the written angle.  Retro game art is always a plus, too.  And Dan, that's the best thing I've ever seen.  Seriously.

I also am very fond of Skully.  I'll bet Pyro is too.
Title: Re: OW logo thread
Post by: idolminds on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 09:14:37 PM
Happy accidents come up with neat things.

Started making the pixel text with various fonts.
(http://user.mc.net/~pbsmith/pics/art/OW-Text.png)

I then wanted to add Skully above it. Well, I messed up the scaling and he was too small. But before I resized him larger....this happened:

(http://user.mc.net/~pbsmith/pics/art/OW-Text2.png)

(http://user.mc.net/~pbsmith/pics/art/OW-Text2-big.png)
Title: Re: OW logo thread
Post by: Ghandi on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 09:35:08 PM
That kicks ass. :)
Title: Re: OW logo thread
Post by: Quemaqua on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 10:04:05 PM
Dude, I agree completely.  I love that like crazy.
Title: Re: OW logo thread
Post by: NatchDan on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 10:48:19 PM
I'll throw my hat into the love-in for skully.
Title: Re: OW logo thread
Post by: PyroMenace on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 11:00:16 PM
That just fucking rocks... now we just need to put some flames in there somewhere.  :-[

Man I love this pixelated I idea... there's all kinds of easy ways we can modify it. Like throw in a little Link sword or a castlevania item around it. Like remember how AOG had a scheme where whenever you loaded the site a new alloutgames title came up. We could do something like that.
Title: Re: OW logo thread
Post by: idolminds on Thursday, May 24, 2007, 12:01:55 PM
Heh, glad you guys liked it.

Now...Skully all grown up! In 3D!

(http://user.mc.net/~pbsmith/pics/art/skully3d-2.png)
Title: Re: OW logo thread
Post by: ren on Thursday, May 24, 2007, 12:47:29 PM
Where is skully from?

and don't say x-files
Title: Re: OW logo thread
Post by: idolminds on Thursday, May 24, 2007, 01:00:29 PM
Nowhere. I made him myself yesterday just shortly before I posted him.
Title: Re: OW logo thread
Post by: TheOtherBelmont on Thursday, May 24, 2007, 01:38:49 PM
or a castlevania item around it.

I like the way this man thinks.  Also the skully logo is cool.
Title: Re: OW logo thread
Post by: beo on Thursday, May 24, 2007, 03:01:45 PM
i really like the one on 3d. might be difficult to work in text with that - maybe if the skull was left justified next to the text.
Title: Re: OW logo thread
Post by: NatchDan on Thursday, May 24, 2007, 03:18:00 PM
The one in 3D is sweet.
Title: Re: OW logo thread
Post by: idolminds on Saturday, May 26, 2007, 09:49:56 PM
Just a quick mockup (http://user.mc.net/~pbsmith/pics/art/page.png).
Title: Re: OW logo thread
Post by: Quemaqua on Saturday, May 26, 2007, 09:58:45 PM
Don't know how big a fan I am of the red.  Actually, or the 3D skull.  I guess maybe it feels like the nice simpleness of it gets mired up when you do more to it.  Maybe it's just me, I dunno'.  But when I go up and look at what you posted before, I like that better.  Small, black, unobtrusive yet memorable.  I think were it me, I might just give that a black border and be done with it.

Though I really like the 3D thing as well... but maybe we should just use it separately or something?  I'm not sure.
Title: Re: OW logo thread
Post by: Ghandi on Saturday, May 26, 2007, 10:02:44 PM
In the example that you posted, I think you would need a skull facing the other direction on the other side of the text to center things. The way it is now is confusing. Also, perhaps a resize of the text. I have no idea to what size, but the way it is now, either the 3d skull is too big or the text is. 
Title: Re: OW logo thread
Post by: idolminds on Saturday, May 26, 2007, 10:07:00 PM
I just threw the red on there because I wasnt sure if the plain black looked that good. I was trying to decide between them.

The 3D skull doesnt fit next to the text too well. Its a bit much having the skulls next to each other. You'd either drop the skull from the O when using the 3D skull, or just drop the 3D skull.

I think the 3D one would make a cool stencil or something. Maybe something we watermark screenshots with?

I'll screw with it a little more.
Title: Re: OW logo thread
Post by: Antares on Saturday, May 26, 2007, 10:08:55 PM
Big thumbs up!  I like where this is heading.
Title: Re: OW logo thread
Post by: Ghandi on Saturday, May 26, 2007, 10:10:39 PM
Yeah, looking good by the way. Didn't mean to be too critical in my last post. :)

Some mixture of colors will work well, I don't think just black and white will look too good. It's just a matter of finding the right mix.
Title: Re: OW logo thread
Post by: idolminds on Saturday, May 26, 2007, 10:31:17 PM
Dont worry about is Ghandi, I like the feedback on stuff.
Title: Re: OW logo thread
Post by: Quemaqua on Sunday, May 27, 2007, 12:53:54 AM
I'm never one for overcomplicating.  I like black.  I think it works better for pixel type stuff.  *Shrug*

I do like the idea of using the 3D skull for a watermark dealie.  That would make a really cool one.  Usually those things are so boring.
Title: Re: OW logo thread
Post by: scottws on Sunday, May 27, 2007, 09:05:53 AM
Not to belittle you or anything idol, just offering some constructive criticism, but as others have said I don't like the red or the 3D skull next to the text for one reason each:

1)  The red clashes or otherwise stands out to much with the colors of the forum.
2)  The 3D skull looks too detailed next to the simplistic (don't mean that in a bad way) text.

I like the pixelated text, but I don't necessarily love it.  Maybe do a mockup with just the black text and a black border like Que mentioned so we could see what that looks like.  Or maybe try the text in the same color blue as the tabs on the forum.
Title: Re: OW logo thread
Post by: Quemaqua on Wednesday, June 13, 2007, 09:18:24 PM
Okay, here's some stuff. (http://www.theflyingmonkeyapparatus.com/logosketch.jpg)  These looked a lot better in my sketchbook, but here they are anyway.  These aren't really serious ideas, but I think sharing stuff is the best way to get people feeling motivated and sometimes what's throwaway to one guy might spark an idea in another guy.  Anyway, I was just doodling while Julia and I were watching more Twin Peaks (hot damn I love that show), so these just are what they are.  I sort of like my little skully-meets-punisher thing, but yeah... none of this is all that interesting.  Just hoping maybe it'll spark an idea in someone.  Or something.  Sorry, I'm really fucking tired tonight, just sort of... babbling.

The biggest idea there was doing the shape of a controller.  I like the controller idea, I just have no idea how to do it.
Title: Re: OW logo thread
Post by: idolminds on Wednesday, June 13, 2007, 09:52:56 PM
(http://user.mc.net/~pbsmith/pics/art/sk-test.png)

Ques stuff gave me some ideas and I tinkered with a bunch real quick in inkscape. I though...what if the skull was vaguely pixely, but not true pixel art? Just kind of boxy. Now I'll try come up with something that vaguely game related.
Title: Re: OW logo thread
Post by: idolminds on Wednesday, June 13, 2007, 10:22:49 PM
More randomness. I thought of ways of combining the O and W. I had the W inside the O and tried to come up with interesting looks for it. Once was to have the sky and the W forming mountains or waves of the ocean or something. Then screwing around I made this odd thing.

(http://user.mc.net/~pbsmith/pics/art/ow-orange.png)

Probably not logo worthy, but posting it anyway.
Title: Re: OW logo thread
Post by: Quemaqua on Wednesday, June 13, 2007, 11:01:02 PM
I dig the ball thing.  For some reason it makes me think of Mario.  I couldn't tell you why.

I think my favorite idea of all thus far has still just been the simple pixel/skully title.  That was really nice and clean and memorable.  I think it would behoove us to play with that design some more, see if we can't find a way to perfect it.
Title: Re: OW logo thread
Post by: Antares on Saturday, June 16, 2007, 12:29:00 PM
My first impression was that it was a Mario Fireflower.