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Carry On by Chris Cornell
« on: Tuesday, June 05, 2007, 02:56:56 PM »
I know that at least Scott is a fan of Chris Cornell, and I think some others have mentioned him. Anyone here pick up this cd? I got it today, making it my first Chris Cornell album. As a result, I can't really compare it to any of his other cd's, but I can say that I really enjoy it. It has some weak tracks but overall it's really good. The Billie Jean cover caught me by surprise, wasn't quite expecting that. Oddly enough, it worked out really well though.

Only one play-through so it's a bit too early to pick favourite tracks.

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Re: Carry On by Chris Cornell
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday, June 05, 2007, 08:48:37 PM »
I have Chris Cornell's first solo CD, Euphoria Morning.  I didn't like it all that much.    I'll have to check it out; I didn't know it was out.

But yeah, I love Chris Cornell.  Soundgarden is my favorite band of all time even though they flamed out pretty quick.  I think my favorite song involving Chris Cornell though is when he was with Audioslave:  "Shadow on the Sun."  I really love that song.  I first heard it during the movie Collateral and was hooked before I even heard his voice.

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Re: Carry On by Chris Cornell
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday, June 06, 2007, 08:26:41 AM »
I'm a big chris guy too... I haven't gotten this cd yet either though, I guess I've been slacking, but I heard the single "no such thing" on the radio and it was decent.  I've heard the Billie Jean cover from his live solo acoustic CD from sweeden or something and I thought it was pretty awesome.  Haven't heard the album version yet, but if it's similar it should be cool.

I have a sinking feeling the album is gonna suck though, and that upsets me :(

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Re: Carry On by Chris Cornell
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday, June 06, 2007, 12:44:51 PM »
It all sounds pretty similar to the opening theme song for Casino Royale. If you liked that, you'll probably like the album.

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Re: Carry On by Chris Cornell
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday, June 06, 2007, 04:06:34 PM »
Really?  That stinks.  I thought that song sucked bad.

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Re: Carry On by Chris Cornell
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday, June 06, 2007, 06:20:57 PM »
I hated it during the movie but when I heard it on it's own I liked it much more.

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Re: Carry On by Chris Cornell
« Reply #6 on: Monday, June 11, 2007, 07:30:46 AM »
Ok, I've heard most of the album and I really don't like it.  Worse than Euphoria Morning, I think.

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Re: Carry On by Chris Cornell
« Reply #7 on: Friday, June 15, 2007, 12:41:08 PM »
In a word: Disappointing.

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Re: Carry On by Chris Cornell
« Reply #8 on: Sunday, February 24, 2008, 06:49:27 PM »
I've got some more to say about this.  See, Soundgarden is my favorite band, and I like Audioslave as well.  Carry On is a lot different than either of those.  It's much less hard and much less dark.  I seems to be an attempt by Chris to make what I'm going to call "old fashioned" music.  You just don't really hear these kinds of song anymore.

Now that I think of it that way and don't try to compare it to his work in Soundgarden and Audioslave, it's easier to appreciate.  I still think it's a fairly weak album though.

And there is another thing I noticed.  Chris' voice seems to have changed since Audioslave's Out of Exile.  While I love that album and the first Audioslave album, I think Revelations completely blows.  I couldn't understand why for a long time.  I love all the stuff Chris has done for the most part, except for his solo stuff and highly enjoyed the first two Audioslave albums.  Why was Revelations so bad?

Like I said, I think his voice has gone down the tubes, or at the very least he is attempting to sing differently.  His voice is the classic Chris voice in Out of Exile, very unique and listenable.  But in Revelations it sounds much coarser and he just flat out screams a lot more.  Carry On came out after Revelations and I still notice the voice thing a little, but it seems better.

Hopefully it's something that improves, because it would suck if he turns out to be like Roger Waters or something and have a completely terrible voice when he's older.


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Re: Carry On by Chris Cornell
« Reply #9 on: Monday, February 25, 2008, 04:37:05 AM »
Why'd he leave Audioslave?

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Re: Carry On by Chris Cornell
« Reply #10 on: Monday, February 25, 2008, 06:03:18 AM »
I have no idea, but I would guess differing goals.  I'm guessing Tom Morello and the rest of the former Rage Against the Machine/Audioslave want to rock out hard but Chris had a bit of softer stuff.  There are several songs where I almost feel bad for Tom Morello because he's made to play some really simple stuff on the guitar.

Besides, I'm surprised they even made two more albums after the original.  I'd heard they broke up after the first album released, even before they went on tour.

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Re: Carry On by Chris Cornell
« Reply #11 on: Monday, February 25, 2008, 06:29:06 AM »
Well the good thing to come out of it was that Rage got back together. But I liked Audioslave. I think that "Show me how to live" song had me hooked for ages.

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Re: Carry On by Chris Cornell
« Reply #12 on: Monday, February 25, 2008, 06:57:58 PM »
Has Rage even done anything good like... in years?  Last thing I got was Battle for LA and that was relatively lame.

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Re: Carry On by Chris Cornell
« Reply #13 on: Monday, February 25, 2008, 07:38:23 PM »
His voice has most definitely changed. That's probably why I like his solo stuff so much. My introduction to Chris Cornell went: Audioslave, solo, Temple of the Dog, Soundgarden.

You're right about Revelations sucking too. I listened to it a few times and was so disappointed. Months later someone else put on a song and I thought it was pretty good but couldn't place the band. It was then that I noticed the change in his voice. It's actually a decent cd if you just listen to it as a generic rock cd instead of Audioslave or Chris Cornell.

Lately I've gotten really into Soundgarden; Superunknown, Louder Than Love and Down on the Upside are great. Oddly enough I didn't like Badmotofinger that much.

Temple of The Dog is without a doubt my favourite Chris Cornell though. Every single song on that cd is just fantastic. Pearl Jam is my favourite band though, so Pearl Jam + Chris Cornell sounds like a match made in heaven.

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Re: Carry On by Chris Cornell
« Reply #14 on: Monday, February 25, 2008, 08:01:34 PM »
You're right about Temple of the Dog kicking ass.  I think "Hunger Strike" is my favorite.

I've never heard Louder Than Love.  I'll have to check it out.  But Superunknown is one of the few albums I can listen to end-to-end and love every minute.  Audioslave and especially Out of Exile are pretty close.

I want to talk about something I noticed about Soundgarden, but I have to have a little aside first.  See, I'm the type of person that listens and likes certain music for it's "sound."  Lyrics and meaning are secondary to me and oftentimes don't even factor in at all.  That doesn't mean I don't listen to the singer.  I do, but I hear the sound of their voice and not really what they are saying generally.

So anyway I happened to start looking up some Soundgarden lyrics and just reading them.  We're talking songs I've listened to a thousand times and loved forever.  And I discovered just how damn dark they are!  Like "Burden In My Hand" sounds like a good little song but if you read or hear and understand the lyrics you are just like "Holy shit!  That is dark and morbid as hell!!!"  I just found that interesting.

It just sucks to see Chris' stuff flame out so much.  I mean I highly doubt Soundgarden will ever get back together.  Maybe it doesn't matter at this point with his voice going down the tubes.

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Re: Carry On by Chris Cornell
« Reply #15 on: Monday, February 25, 2008, 08:49:11 PM »
Chris Cornell has said a bunch of times that he doesn't want to bring back Soundgarden so it probably won't happen.

Louder Than Love seems to be on the heavier side and has less catchy songs but it's a pretty solid album overall.

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Re: Carry On by Chris Cornell
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday, February 27, 2008, 04:57:14 PM »
I'm with scott on why revelations sucked.  He just can't hit the notes he used to and it seems like he's desperately trying to.  Granted, he's got a great voice still but he needs to learn how to compensate for his lack of range by sticking with the baritone singing.  Audioslave's "Like a Stone" is a perfect example of his hoarseness sounding great.

In the Soundgarden era, he could fucking belt it out.  He could hit notes like an opera singer, falsetto and even at a full scream.  "Smokestack Lightning," "Slaves and Bulldozers," "Jesus Christ Pose," "Mind Riot," "Say Hello 2 Heaven," are good examples of how ridiculous his range used to be.  "Cold Bitch" is another great example of this, which is actually a B side.  It's a fucking awesome song as well, so definitely check it out if you haven't. 

He's probably my favorite singer and his range is partly why -- when it sounds good, that is.  Without the range he used to have, I'd still say he's my favorite when he can pull it off.  "The Last Remaining Light" from the Audioslave S/T is one of his best vocal performances ever, if you ask me.  The contrast between Revelations and that older stuff is proof that he's losing his voice badly, but if he can control it like he did in Out of Exile or the S/T Audioslave, then he's definitely still got a solid set of pipes.

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So anyway I happened to start looking up some Soundgarden lyrics and just reading them.  We're talking songs I've listened to a thousand times and loved forever.  And I discovered just how damn dark they are!  Like "Burden In My Hand" sounds like a good little song but if you read or hear and understand the lyrics you are just like "Holy shit!  That is dark and morbid as hell!!!"  I just found that interesting.

I personally like listening to the lyrics in a song, so I like to look them up.  Some of his lyrics suck, but at the same time, some songs just have fucking great lyrics.  I thought "Burden in my Hand" had great lyrics, and "Limo Wreck" is another that comes to mind right away.  "Like a Stone" is also a great one.  Seems like his darker lyrics are the best ones though.  Revelations had no redeeming lyrics whatsoever -- everything was poppy and lame.  Half the time, it seemed like he was writing lines just to rhyme them with the previous one. 


EDIT: Also, as you may be able to tell from my icon, Badmotorfinger is my favorite Soundgarden album.  I suggest listening to it a few times, because it's a little different than their other stuff and it took me some getting used to.  I just love how heavy it is, though, and a few of the songs give off almost a tool-esque sound ("Slaves and Bulldozers" particularly).  Cornell's voice is in top form on this one, too.  Superunknown is a very close second, though.  How can you not love that album?  On a related note, I also have a badass version of New Damage with Brian May of Queen on guitar. 
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Re: Carry On by Chris Cornell
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday, February 27, 2008, 08:39:10 PM »
Ah there you are.  I was hoping you'd weigh in here.  I don't have anything to say in response except thanks for your input.

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Re: Carry On by Chris Cornell
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday, February 27, 2008, 09:36:01 PM »
I just listened to Jesus Christ Pose (my favourite on Badmotofinger) to see what you mean and you're totally right. Just the first few seconds he sings high enough and intense enough for me to see what you mean.

I remember reading that his voice was noticeably better in Out of Exile because he quit smoking. I haven't listened to in a while so I don't know how true that is but his voice must have gone downhill fast considering Revelations was released in the following year.

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Re: Carry On by Chris Cornell
« Reply #19 on: Thursday, February 28, 2008, 08:13:35 AM »
Well I ordered Louder Than Love and Badmotorfinger last night (DeepDiscount.com rocks).  I saw Soundgarden also had an album released in 1988: Ultramega OK.  Is that any good?

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Re: Carry On by Chris Cornell
« Reply #20 on: Thursday, February 28, 2008, 10:35:41 AM »
Don't forget to check amazon. It's usually the cheapest I can find cd's which aren't used. Louder Than Love and Badmotorfinger are $1 cheaper there.

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Re: Carry On by Chris Cornell
« Reply #21 on: Thursday, February 28, 2008, 11:15:10 AM »
How was shipping?  I had free shipping.

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Re: Carry On by Chris Cornell
« Reply #22 on: Thursday, February 28, 2008, 12:26:04 PM »
Ultramega OK is pretty good.  I mean I dig all their stuff, so I may be a little biased, but when you get Louder Than Love listen to it closely because that's what Ultramega sounds closest to.  It's their old, old stuff from the late '80s and they had a different sound than the Superunknown/DoTU days.  Real grungey, almost hair metal-y at points and definitely not the more radio friendly sound from their later CDs.  It's definitely not their best CD by a long shot, but for me there are a bunch of worthwhile songs that I enjoy.  See how you like Louder Than Love -- it's definitely the better album from their 80's days.

I don't know if you guys have heard of AOL Sessions, but there is just a ton of bands on their page and videos of them in the AOL studios you can watch.  There are a bunch for Audioslave and they're fucking great because they're essentially live versions of their songs, but recorded in a studio.  Anyways, they did a cover of Soundgarden's "Loud Love" from the Louder than Love CD, which is an awesome song.  I don't know, just kind of cool.

Also, I downloaded an album they released called "Louder than Live" which is pretty sweet.  It's from the Louder than Love era and it's just a short live album.  I think it was actually a VHS, too, but I've never seen that.  They sounded fucking awesome live -- Cornell could scream just like on the album and Thayil really had some great guitar work early on.

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Re: Carry On by Chris Cornell
« Reply #23 on: Thursday, March 13, 2008, 08:49:19 PM »
So yeah I've been listening to the CDs.  Badmotorfinger is awesome all the way through, just like Superunknown.  I think I still like Superunknown a little more but not by much.  It's very different than Superunkown but not in any kind of bad way.

Louder Than Love is... different.  I'll be honest.  If I didn't love Soundgarden I would think it sucked.  The guitar riffs and melodies are all much simpler than everything Chris has ever done since, and it's just weird to hear him scream out "Whoa!" and "Yeah!" during a song like he does in "Gun."  He just isn't that type of singer

I can listen to it all the way through, but that's the only way I can.  If I put my iPod on shuffle and get to a song from Louder Than Love I generally skip it.

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Re: Carry On by Chris Cornell
« Reply #24 on: Monday, November 07, 2011, 06:45:54 PM »
So I was supposed to go to Chris' Songbook show last night in Miami, but he had the flu!  I was so disappointed.  Never seen him live and I was really looking forward to it.

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Re: Carry On by Chris Cornell
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday, May 16, 2012, 05:06:49 PM »
I'm at the make-up date!

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Re: Carry On by Chris Cornell
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday, May 16, 2012, 08:08:25 PM »
The make-up date was a whole six months later?

How is it? Does he still make it work with a weaker voice?

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Re: Carry On by Chris Cornell
« Reply #27 on: Thursday, May 17, 2012, 06:28:32 AM »
Hell yes he makes it work.  He was the best singer I've ever heard live.  His range is still incredible.  Honestly he sounded better last night than he ever did on the Revelations album.  He really hit his stride at around the 5th song of the set and just got better until the last few songs.

It was awesome.  I heard all of my favorite Chris Cornell songs except for "Rusty Cage".  He even had a couple that weren't on any album.