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Re: Crysis 2 - Update: Cover art revealed for all editions (10-18-2010)
« Reply #40 on: Thursday, November 25, 2010, 07:01:09 PM »
CVG -> Cevat Yerli talks about PC vs. console.

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However, Yerli admits that the "creative expression" of Crytek and other studios is being "limited" by the prevalence of Sony and Microsoft's current-gen systems.

"As long as the current console generation exists and as long as we keep pushing the PC as well, the more difficult it will be to really get the benefit of both," Yerli told the latest issue of Edge.

"PC is easily a generation ahead right now. With 360 and PS3, we believe the quality of the games beyond Crysis 2 and other CryEngine developments will be pretty much limited to what their creative expressions is, what the content is. You won't be able to squeeze more juice from these rocks."

Yerli added that multi-format games not reaching their technical potential on PC couldn't be squarely blamed on consoles, however.


"I generally think it's still developers' mentality [that is to blame]," he added. "A lot nowadays don't consider PC a big issue any more; their [sales] expectations are nowhere near what they are for the console versions. Until the PC market creates comparable revenues, companies are not going to spend enough on the PC SKU of a game."[/b]

Just as well Crysis 2 is looking stunning across the formats, then. But could the PC version have looked even better? We await its arrival in March next year with baited breath...

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Re: Crysis 2
« Reply #41 on: Friday, November 26, 2010, 02:33:23 AM »
Yea it confirms what we've known for a while. It is sad that most games don't look too much better than Oblivion, which came out what, five years ago? I guess it would be accurate to say that consoles are holding us back, but at the same time, a jump in console hardware has resulted in PC gaming going through a bump in tech as well. Again, Oblivion and Morrowind were examples of this.

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Re: Crysis 2
« Reply #42 on: Friday, November 26, 2010, 07:42:48 AM »
I was in the multiplayer beta they had for this on Xbox. It looked pretty nice for an Xbox game, basically a lot like Crysis but in a lower res. It was also just a New York rooftop map, so it's hard to be impressive the way the first game's outdoor environments were. It still looks really nice though.

I'm more optimistic because of the beta. From everything I'd seen in the press, the environment change looked like it would make it seem very generic, but the suit functions go a long way in avoiding that. Instead of an ability wheel, suit abilities are mapped to different buttons. Two of them on the bumpers (armor and one other, can't remember), the speed one is now activated when you hold sprint. I can't remember it all, it's been about a month since I played it, but the suit abilities seemed much more like a moveset for the game that changes depending on what you have equipped. Like you can jump in the air and come slamming down, stunning people around you, but that's like a perk that you equip. It's got some CoD style unlocks and leveling in there too.

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Re: Crysis 2
« Reply #43 on: Friday, January 21, 2011, 03:26:29 PM »

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Re: Crysis 2 - Update: Crysis 2 DEMO is a X-Box 360 exclusive on XB Live
« Reply #44 on: Tuesday, January 25, 2011, 04:37:24 AM »
The demo is now up on Xbox Live.

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Re: Crysis 2 - Update: Crysis 2 DEMO is a X-Box 360 exclusive on XB Live
« Reply #45 on: Wednesday, January 26, 2011, 03:14:52 PM »
Oh, this can't be good - that there's some issues w/ the MP Demo.
At least they are working on it...

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Re: Crysis 2 - Update: Crysis 2 MP DEMO has connectivity and console freezing issues
« Reply #46 on: Wednesday, January 26, 2011, 03:18:50 PM »
The demo apparently is titled as 'closed beta' during the download process.

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Re: Crysis 2 - Update: Crysis 2 MP DEMO has connectivity and console freezing issues
« Reply #48 on: Friday, January 28, 2011, 05:18:52 PM »
The demo apparently is titled as 'closed beta' during the download process.

The contents of the demo are exactly the same as the multiplayer beta they had a while back. I wouldn't be surprised if it's the same download, or only very very slightly different.

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Re: Crysis 2 - Update: Crysis 2 MP DEMO coming to the PC
« Reply #49 on: Wednesday, February 02, 2011, 02:46:17 PM »
BigDownload -> Crysis 2 PC's minimal system requirements revealed.

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Re: Crysis 2 - Update: Crysis 2 PC Minimum system requirements revealed
« Reply #50 on: Thursday, February 03, 2011, 05:43:26 PM »
ROFL the Xbox 360 demo is timed. It ends on the 4th.

So I just jumped in to mess around before it ends. I'm just gonna write off Crysis MP and not look back. 100% invisibility when standing still is annoying, and 1 shot melee (especially with the stealth situation) sucks too. What's weird is people were actually shooting eachother with guns in the beta, and didn't abuse stealth as much.

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Re: Crysis 2 - Update: Crysis 2 PC Minimum system requirements revealed
« Reply #51 on: Friday, February 11, 2011, 04:02:05 PM »

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Re: Crysis 2 - Update: Crysis 2 PC Minimum system requirements revealed
« Reply #52 on: Friday, February 11, 2011, 04:26:31 PM »
Anyone surprised?

Bleh. :(
I'm not shocked but I'm certainly dismayed. Hopefully Crytek will resolve the issue elegantly (without penalizing legit buyers).

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Re: Crysis 2 - Update: Crysis 2 PC = leaked
« Reply #53 on: Friday, February 11, 2011, 05:04:04 PM »
So how long before Crytek gives up on the PC? The decision to go multi platform was based on high amounts of piracy, wasn't it?

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Re: Crysis 2 - Update: Crysis 2 PC = leaked
« Reply #54 on: Friday, February 11, 2011, 05:12:33 PM »
So how long before Crytek gives up on the PC?
Hopefully, they don't - as they're one of the leaders in terms of engines, graphics, and gameplay for FPS's. It'd be a shame to lose them.

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The decision to go multi platform was based on high amounts of piracy, wasn't it?
Yep.

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Re: Crysis 2 - Update: Crysis 2 PC Minimum system requirements revealed
« Reply #55 on: Friday, February 11, 2011, 05:15:16 PM »
I'm not shocked but I'm certainly dismayed. Hopefully Crytek will resolve the issue elegantly (without penalizing legit buyers).
I'm not shocked, either.

I'm just sick of this leaking and piracy stuff. It's ruining gaming.

All it leads to is companies abandoning the PC entirely and an increase in having more Draconian measures put forth in DRM's for legit users.

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Re: Crysis 2 - Update: Crysis 2 PC = leaked
« Reply #56 on: Saturday, February 12, 2011, 10:46:25 PM »

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Re: Crysis 2 - Update: Crysis 2 PC = leaked
« Reply #57 on: Sunday, February 13, 2011, 02:37:06 AM »
It is quite terrible that that the game got leaked. What the hell sort of security do they have?

As W7RE says, I won't be surprised if they give up on the PC. I wouldn't blame them much either. Though this has to be their fault.

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Re: Crysis 2 - Update: Crysis 2 PC = leaked; EA and Crytek's responds to the leak.
« Reply #59 on: Sunday, February 13, 2011, 06:26:48 AM »
Also judging by the comments on there, I feel like it's their duty to quit making PC games, what a bunch of assholes.

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Re: Crysis 2 - Update: Crysis 2 PC = leaked; EA and Crytek's responds to the leak.
« Reply #60 on: Sunday, February 13, 2011, 06:28:52 AM »
Conspiracy theory time:
So, did EA leak the game out so they can sway Crytek to go console-only? :P
Or EA do this to sway Crytek to use more nasty DRM on the PC (i.e. like what Dragon Age 2 PC will have)? ;)


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It is quite terrible that that the game got leaked. What the hell sort of security do they have?

As W7RE says, I won't be surprised if they give up on the PC. I wouldn't blame them much either. Though this has to be their fault.
I'm wondering if and when the console versions will get leaked.
I hope not, but it would NOT surprise me if that happened.
I would love to see how EA and Crytek would respond to that - maybe they'll blame the entire "console community."
They should be blaming the leakers and pirates.
Crysis 2 is a monster release game - like Halo 3, Gears of War games, etc - and those console games were pirated like crazy.

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Destructoid -> On Crysis 2 PC leak and piracy.
« Last Edit: Sunday, February 13, 2011, 09:31:51 AM by MysterD »

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Re: Crysis 2 - Update: Crysis 2 PC = leaked; EA and Crytek's responds to the leak.
« Reply #61 on: Sunday, February 13, 2011, 10:47:00 AM »
D you are an idiot.

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Re: Crysis 2 - Update: Crysis 2 PC = leaked; EA and Crytek's responds to the leak.
« Reply #62 on: Sunday, February 13, 2011, 11:06:33 AM »
I really dont think this leak will be all that damaging. First, its just the DX9 version and apparently not complete/still buggy. I doubt there are too many people that went "Whew, glad thats out there! Now I don't have to buy the game!" People that were going to pirate it had no plans on buying anyway.

Also, why is this taken as a "Shame on you, PC gamers!"? Shame on the leaker. Shame on the lax security at industry events, development studios, and manufacturing facilities where these leaks actually come from. Don't try and pin this shit on the people that actually BUY your games.

I'm headed out, but I want to rip that Destructoid article apart.

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Re: Crysis 2 - Update: Crysis 2 PC = leaked; EA and Crytek's responds to the leak.
« Reply #63 on: Sunday, February 13, 2011, 11:43:11 AM »
I think it will be extremely damaging. From what I understand, it is fairly playable. DX9 and DX11 don't look too different.

But "shame on PC gamers is going" too far.

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Re: Crysis 2 - Update: Crysis 2 PC = leaked; EA and Crytek's responds to the leak.
« Reply #64 on: Sunday, February 13, 2011, 02:20:42 PM »
Also, why is this taken as a "Shame on you, PC gamers!"? Shame on the leaker. Shame on the lax security at industry events, development studios, and manufacturing facilities where these leaks actually come from. Don't try and pin this shit on the people that actually BUY your games.
Agreed 100%.


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I think it will be extremely damaging. From what I understand, it is fairly playable. DX9 and DX11 don't look too different.

But "shame on PC gamers is going" too far.
Since Crytek is multi-platforming this for PC + consoles and been making it seem like the PC version could be an after-thought - yeah, I don't expect much difference b/t DX9 and 11 on the PC.

Hmmm...I wonder if they are gonna release a PC Demo now?

I bet a lot of PC gamers might be pissed w/ Crytek and EA, given their response on that EA/Crytek Crysis 2 Website.

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Re: Crysis 2 - Update: Crysis 2 PC = leaked; EA and Crytek's responds to the leak.
« Reply #65 on: Sunday, February 13, 2011, 02:46:47 PM »
I am just saying it won't look that different from my experiences with Crysis DX9 vs DX10.

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Re: Crysis 2 - Update: Crysis 2 PC = leaked; EA and Crytek's responds to the leak.
« Reply #66 on: Monday, February 14, 2011, 04:47:38 AM »
This is basically a repeat of last year's "PC Piracy" lecture. We've already established that piracy is not exclusive to PC and that any arguments against the PC as a viable platform are null because they're essentially baseless.

We also previously pointed out that the sales of console games are significantly higher because of common sense: all game consoles are made for games (only), not all PC's are made for games. PC gamers will buy PC games and often develop strong product loyalty. PC gamers spend more on their hardware and are therefore more discerning with their purchases. Also, my personal favourite, PC players are very unlikely to spend any money on a subpar two-year-old console port or on a non-mouse/KB game that's been ported to PC with extremely limited configuration options.

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Re: Crysis 2 - Update: Crysis 2 PC = leaked; EA and Crytek's responds to the leak.
« Reply #67 on: Monday, February 14, 2011, 06:07:07 AM »
This is basically a repeat of last year's "PC Piracy" lecture. We've already established that piracy is not exclusive to PC and that any arguments against the PC as a viable platform are null because they're essentially baseless.

We also previously pointed out that the sales of console games are significantly higher because of common sense: all game consoles are made for games (only), not all PC's are made for games. PC gamers will buy PC games and often develop strong product loyalty. PC gamers spend more on their hardware and are therefore more discerning with their purchases. Also, my personal favourite, PC players are very unlikely to spend any money on a subpar two-year-old console port or on a non-mouse/KB game that's been ported to PC with extremely limited configuration options.

I don't know when these things were established.

PC piracy is easily 10x more than console. Just search for torrents. PC piracy is easier and without consequence for the person stealing. XBL accounts are permanently banned all the time, and console piracy requires hardware modification.

Just ask the PSP how well it is doing after it was pirated up to its rear.

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We also previously pointed out that the sales of console games are significantly higher because of common sense: all game consoles are made for games (only), not all PC's are made for games.

I think you missed the part where we compared it to video card sales. Video cards have only one purpose. Those stats were of video cards bought separately, and not of video cards bundled. Your logic is sound that PCs are general purpose. But we have stats on video card sales. By by your logic, something is most definitely wrong, when discreet gaming cards are outselling consoles, yet games are not.

Also, you are just simply ignoring the fact that PC games are pirated 10 times more.

Modern Warfare for example sold 14 million vs 2 million on the PC, yet on the PC the torrents were 10 times as many.

No offense to anyone, but I think the problem is that we all have pirated games at some point, and we'd all like to believe that our downloading doesn't adversely affect the industry, because it will mean feeling less guilty.

Let's be honest with ourselves. How many of us have pirated PC games and how many of us have pirated PS3 or Xbox games?

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Also, my personal favourite, PC players are very unlikely to spend any money on a subpar two-year-old console port or on a non-mouse/KB game that's been ported to PC with extremely limited configuration options.



* How are games like Crysis, Call of Duty etc sub par ports?

* Why is it that high end video cards bought separately match consoles, yet the game sales do not? These video cards, like consoles, only come with one purpose. I am talking high end video cards here, not low end media focused cards.

* If PC gamers are simply not interested in games like Unreal Tournament, Crysis, and Modern Warfare, then why it is that while these games lag of the bottom of the sales lists, they make the top 5 torrent lists all over?

* Games which require permanent online connections to be enjoyed fully, like MMOs, all easily break the million sales marks. Even the shittiest MMOs sell a million copies (which is why they keep being made).

I am not saying this is damning evidence. There is absolutely no way to measure the actual effect piracy has on gaming. But there are a lot of indications at hand here. And I agree with your logic that we can't compare PC sales to console sales because PCs are general purpose. Also, PCs in general outsell consoles by 40x.

No I don't think that every pirated game equates a loss in sale. I do agree that a lot of people pirate just for the sake of it, and wouldn't have bought the game otherwise.

But high end ($200+) discrete video card sales are higher than consoles. And by your logic, they have no other purpose. Even more so now, with on board video solutions good enough to watch full HD movies. I the end, it is simple economics to me. Two pieces of similar hardware, one outselling the other, yet its software isn't.
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Re: Crysis 2 - Update: Crysis 2 PC = leaked; EA and Crytek's responds to the leak.
« Reply #68 on: Monday, February 14, 2011, 06:23:28 PM »
MyCrysis -> Cevat Yerli of Crytek speaks on Crysis 2 PC leak.

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As you all have heard by now, an early, incomplete build of Crysis 2 has been leaked online. While we are deeply disappointed by these events, we are all completely overwhelmed by the support we have received from you, our community.

Despite this unfortunate incident, we can assure you that PC gaming is very important to us and will always be important to Crytek in the future. We are all still focused on delivering a great gaming experience to our true and honest fans. I hope you will enjoy Crysis 2 on PC, as we think it is our best PC game yet!

We appreciate all of your continued support, and look forward to playing online with you soon!

Thank you,
Cevat Yerli

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Re: Crysis 2 - Update: Crytek talks about PC and console piracy; leaked Crysis 2
« Reply #70 on: Tuesday, March 01, 2011, 04:57:00 PM »
Man, I hope this isnt a trend. The Crysis 2 multiplayer demo is out, and apparently the consolification is pretty obvious. There are only 3 graphics settings: Gamer, Advanced, and Hardcore. You can't go in a tweak settings individually other than resolution. Autoaim is on by default (on PC?). Default FOV is 75 (luckily there is a launch command to raise it).

So what? We can just edit the config files! Actually, no. You can't. They are inside an encrypted file that no one has figured out yet.

Also, apparently when the game releases it will only have the DX9 rendering in place. DX11 support will come later in a patch. Yeah.

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Re: Crysis 2 - Update: Crytek talks about PC and console piracy; leaked Crysis 2
« Reply #71 on: Tuesday, March 01, 2011, 06:14:09 PM »
Well here's... something at least. Crysis 2 won't use an online pass. EA wanted it, but Crytek said no.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-03-01-no-ea-online-pass-for-crysis-2

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Re: Crysis 2 - Update: Crytek talks about PC and console piracy; leaked Crysis 2
« Reply #72 on: Tuesday, March 01, 2011, 06:59:39 PM »
Man, I hope this isnt a trend. The Crysis 2 multiplayer demo is out, and apparently the consolification is pretty obvious. There are only 3 graphics settings: Gamer, Advanced, and Hardcore. You can't go in a tweak settings individually other than resolution. Autoaim is on by default (on PC?). Default FOV is 75 (luckily there is a launch command to raise it).
Bleh @ lack of tweaking.
This is getting really lazy and ridiculous...

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So what? We can just edit the config files! Actually, no. You can't. They are inside an encrypted file that no one has figured out yet.
Is this gonna be an EA thing or something now?
This happened w/ Bulletstorm PC...  :o

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Also, apparently when the game releases it will only have the DX9 rendering in place. DX11 support will come later in a patch. Yeah.
Bleh...So, why am I getting parts for a a new PC then...?

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You know...this is "consolization on the PC" getting to be the norm for Triple-A multiplatformed titles, when it comes to PC versions of games. Fair enough - these titles will be bought when they're cheaper on the market or when the proper digital distribution sale comes about.

I think I'm really glad I invested my money on that Two Worlds 2 PC Import...at least THAT feels like a proper PC game.


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Re: Crysis 2 - Update: Crytek talks about PC and console piracy; leaked Crysis 2
« Reply #73 on: Wednesday, March 02, 2011, 12:31:04 AM »
Man, I hope this isnt a trend. The Crysis 2 multiplayer demo is out, and apparently the consolification is pretty obvious. There are only 3 graphics settings: Gamer, Advanced, and Hardcore. You can't go in a tweak settings individually other than resolution. Autoaim is on by default (on PC?). Default FOV is 75 (luckily there is a launch command to raise it).

So what? We can just edit the config files! Actually, no. You can't. They are inside an encrypted file that no one has figured out yet.

Also, apparently when the game releases it will only have the DX9 rendering in place. DX11 support will come later in a patch. Yeah.

What?

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Re: Crysis 2 - Update: Crytek talks about PC and console piracy; leaked Crysis 2
« Reply #74 on: Wednesday, March 02, 2011, 01:37:15 AM »
I generally stick with DX9 or DX10 anyway. I find the performance drop with DX11 is unreasonable, the minuscule visual improvements are not worth the cost.

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Re: Crysis 2 - Update: Crytek talks about PC and console piracy; leaked Crysis 2
« Reply #75 on: Wednesday, March 02, 2011, 01:29:51 PM »
The Crysis 2 demo will be up on PSN on March 15th in NA and March 16th in EU.


So I was confused about them saying the demo is coming out, when there was already a multiplayer demo, for Xbox at least. This new one is the same 2 game modes as the last one, but with a new map this time. Also the second game mode is locked until you level up to 5. The 2 game modes are Team Instant Action (TDM) and Crash Site (king of the hill with a hill that relocates periodically).

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Re: Crysis 2 - Update: Crytek talks about PC and console piracy; leaked Crysis 2
« Reply #76 on: Wednesday, March 02, 2011, 07:19:38 PM »
I tried the demo MP Demo out.

I was running it on my aging rig (P4 Single-Core 3.2 Ghz HT; GeForce 8800 GT; 2 GB RAM; Win XP Home)  and it ran just fine at 1024x768 on Gamer settings. Yeah - like Idol said about the settings - you only get a few resolutions and 3 selections. Still, Crysis 2 looks really good on the screen and runs really well here - so, I guess that's the good news, despite all the lack of game customization options.

But - I don't know what it is about the MP here, but it ain't doing really too much for me. Maybe it's the lack of maps and game-modes here. Maybe it's that there were only 6 people pretty much playing in a 3v3 game here.

This feels like every other MP shooter that has an upgrade system, as well.

Eh, I don't know...this just ain't doing it for me.

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Re: Crysis 2 - Update: MysterD not impressed w/ the PC Demo...
« Reply #77 on: Thursday, March 03, 2011, 12:46:19 AM »
I played the MP beta, and a little on the old MP demo, and then I played this one up to level 8. I'm liking it now that I've had a chance to get the hang of it, but really it just feels like CoD with stealth. The satisfaction of the gameplay comes from the graphics and sounds more than the gameplay itself, which is pretty old and tired.

The only thing that makes this all that different is the stealth. I really feel like the stealth is OP, and to do well you have to abuse it. I find myself only moving around in the open when I have enough energy for stealth.

Last night I was playing and someone in my house was running torrents, and somehow the game gave host to me. I have full green bars for latency and everyone else had one red bar. I went on a ridiculous rampage and was laughing my ass off because I knew what was going on.

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Re: Crysis 2 - Update: MysterD not impressed w/ the PC Demo...
« Reply #78 on: Thursday, March 03, 2011, 01:03:36 AM »
I checked out the MP demo this morning. It's ok, but where Crysis Wars just felt like Battlefield 2 with super powers, Crysis 2 feels like Call of Duty with super powers.

I'll try it again when I get home but I'm honestly more excited about the singleplayer than the multiplayer; that's just my default stance.

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Re: Crysis 2 - Update: MysterD not impressed w/ the PC Demo...
« Reply #79 on: Thursday, March 03, 2011, 02:51:26 PM »
Crysis 2 feels like Call of Duty with super powers.
Best synopsis I've heard about the Crysis 2 MP.